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I- not to sure if honey is a vegan treat, i mean it's not meat. confused

Insects are part of the kingdom animalia. Anyone who argues that bees are not animals is retarded. Honey is not vegan.

From what I understand, vegans tend to avoid meat, fish and animal byproducts. In my opinion, it feels a bit silly to limit your dietary choices.

For those that didn't now how honey is made. Bees regurgitate the nectar and store it into honeycombs. If you're comfortable with that, more power to you. I myself love the taste of honey.

What the... *facepalm*

They. Fail. Biology. FOREVER.

I wonder if this is how some vegans are going to deal with the fact that a lot of insects had to die so their "cruelty-free" dinners could make it to harvest - just class those ugly bugs as non-animals! (I don't mean to offend anyone, but skooshing thousands of bugs and their eggs out in the garden has left me somewhat cynical in regards to veganism being "compassionate" and "cruelty-free.")

Or maybe this is how companies are trying to sell their honey to vegans who wouldn't otherwise buy it? That wouldn't surprise me any...

@Sheshedi: Personally, I wouldn't worry too much about whether something was "vegan" or not. I'd look into what kind of impact it has on the environment. Some vegan products are environmental nightmares (and not to mention completely unhealthy for you), while some non-vegan products have very little impact.

Don't offer a vegan honey, it's just polite.

Being true to veganism means that you do not eat honey, honey and beeswax are not vegan because they are animal products. And in commercial operations, bee keeping is not natural or kind to the bees practices include killing the bees at the end to sell all the beeswax in the hive and the honey, because it's cheaper to get new bees rather than to leave them with enough sell-able product to keep them through the winter, and killing the males to impregnate the queen on the human's time schedule rather than nature's, so it's really best to get your honey locally if you're interested in a natural product, you're getting better stuff and they don't have the resources to try to pump that much production out of their bees. Often it's a hobby.

By that logic, I'm a vegetarian that doesn't use silk, eat gelatin, eggs or dairy but does eat honey and use wool.

Because it's ridiculously hard to explain this to every person, if the honey and wool issues aren't coming up, I will tell people that I am vegan to avoid a problem. If the issue of honey comes up I will explain that actual vegans do not eat honey, I use the title the same way many vegans say that they are allergic to milk and eggs, to avoid confusion and aggravation.

Basically, most vegans don't eat honey, some people use the title and do eat honey.

Yanueh- thanks but i'm not just worried on the impact of the enviroment, im also worried on how my body digest certaint foods properlaly,thats why i'm a vegan-raw vegan.

This.

PETA: "hard core vegans" don't wear leather and don't want you to wear leather. They ask you to wear leather alternatives instead.


@ Koren-the-Phoenix: The eggs you see in the supermarket would never turn into chicks. They're not fertilized. Chickens do not need roosters to lay eggs, they do so regardless. If they want a chick to come from the egg, then yes, they'll need a rooster.

@pirhan: I am aware of this, I used to have chickens, but if we didn't keep them caged a rooster would have been there to do the fertilizing. I was only trying to point out that the comparison of eggs and honey doesn't really work.