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Nicky Sarian

PostPosted: Wed Nov 23, 2005 12:17 pm


Alright.
We have the bashing thread.
So why not have a debate thread?
I'm sure I'm not the only one who loves her.
So lay it on me, why do you hate her so much?
And if you say "'Cause she's a slut!" support your statement with real reasons.
So, c'mon.
Let 'em fly.
I'm ready. >=3
PostPosted: Wed Nov 23, 2005 8:24 pm


Lol, I believe that all of our reasons are stated in the Kairi Bashing thread. Why don't you state some of your reasons why you like her, and we'll reply? :3

Torrina Shirogane


Nicky Sarian

PostPosted: Wed Nov 23, 2005 10:41 pm


Well, alright.
She's not THAT bad of a character for starters.
She's simpley not as complex as you make her to be.
She's a static love interest, who remains the same through out the story.
She can't be a slut, she can't be a whore, she can't even be manipulative.
She's just that not deep, y'know?
The only role she represents in the game is drive.
She's the reason Sora drove to find her and Riku.
She's the reason that Riku went to the dark side.(Which is good.)
Without her, the game wouldn't really exsist.
And my reasoning for loving her?
Your reason for hating her.
Well...
She's like my Ex-Girlfriend, from what we can tell about ehr personality.
Playful, sincre, fun-loving, etc.
And she looks exactly like my ex.
Like, really. First time I saw her, I was just like "Double-yew Tee Eff? It's Denise?"
So yeah.
You can hate her, but I love her for memories. =P
PostPosted: Sat Nov 26, 2005 5:31 pm


Because I wanna be a jerk today...my comments in bold. Kthnxbai. :'D

Nicky Sarian
Well, alright.
She's not THAT bad of a character for starters.
Oh really? Please explain why she never once recognized Riku for what he did for her and felt the need to run away with Sora in the beginning. She's not evil, but she's not all that innocent either. Something that most people automatically assume about her.

She's simpley not as complex as you make her to be.
That's why we hate her. Her personality ISN'T complex. It's simple. She's such a recyclable (so to say) cliched Squaregirl. u_u

She's a static love interest, who remains the same through out the story.
She's kinda DEAD for most of the story.

She can't be a slut, she can't be a whore, she can't even be manipulative.
Eh, I agree. Somewhat. She's not completely innocent and if she had the chance, I'm sure she'd keep Sora all to herself.

She's just that not deep, y'know?
What? o_o

The only role she represents in the game is drive.
I dunno. The only major role she has in the game is being one of the Princesses. She has no symbolic role. Rather, she's just the REASON Sora and Riku are apart...they were both looking for her, coming from two sides (light and dark) and Kairi only seemed to appreciate the risks Sora had taken in the story.

She's the reason Sora drove to find her and Riku.
Uh, Sora was looking for Kairi AND Riku. It wasn't because of Kairi that Sora also looked for Riku. D: If Kairi wasn't there at all, Sora would've still searched for Riku.

She's the reason that Riku went to the dark side.(Which is good.)
Now, how is this good again? =|

Without her, the game wouldn't really exsist.
hmm...

Playful, sincre, fun-loving, etc.
(...) By the end of the game I hadn't caught an "playful, sincere, and fun-loving" traits in her personality...maybe it's just me. =|

And she looks exactly like my ex.
Sorry, this doesn't count. :'D

=D I'm one of the few people on here that actually respects Kairi. Damn, now I just sound like a big hypocrite. ^^; *goes to eat cookies*

Kupocchi


Torrina Shirogane

PostPosted: Sat Nov 26, 2005 8:40 pm


kupo-tenshi
Because I wanna be a jerk today...my comments in bold. Kthnxbai. :'D

Nicky Sarian
Well, alright.
She's not THAT bad of a character for starters.
Oh really? Please explain why she never once recognized Riku for what he did for her and felt the need to run away with Sora in the beginning. She's not evil, but she's not all that innocent either. Something that most people automatically assume about her.

She's simpley not as complex as you make her to be.
That's why we hate her. Her personality ISN'T complex. It's simple. She's such a recyclable (so to say) cliched Squaregirl. u_u

She's a static love interest, who remains the same through out the story.
She's kinda DEAD for most of the story.

She can't be a slut, she can't be a whore, she can't even be manipulative.
Eh, I agree. Somewhat. She's not completely innocent and if she had the chance, I'm sure she'd keep Sora all to herself.

She's just that not deep, y'know?
What? o_o

The only role she represents in the game is drive.
I dunno. The only major role she has in the game is being one of the Princesses. She has no symbolic role. Rather, she's just the REASON Sora and Riku are apart...they were both looking for her, coming from two sides (light and dark) and Kairi only seemed to appreciate the risks Sora had taken in the story.

She's the reason Sora drove to find her and Riku.
Uh, Sora was looking for Kairi AND Riku. It wasn't because of Kairi that Sora also looked for Riku. D: If Kairi wasn't there at all, Sora would've still searched for Riku.

She's the reason that Riku went to the dark side.(Which is good.)
Now, how is this good again? =|

Without her, the game wouldn't really exsist.
hmm...

Playful, sincre, fun-loving, etc.
(...) By the end of the game I hadn't caught an "playful, sincere, and fun-loving" traits in her personality...maybe it's just me. =|

And she looks exactly like my ex.
Sorry, this doesn't count. :'D

=D I'm one of the few people on here that actually respects Kairi. Damn, now I just sound like a big hypocrite. ^^; *goes to eat cookies*


Lol, I couldn't have said that better myself. :3 *applauds*
PostPosted: Sat Dec 10, 2005 12:36 pm


The thing is that I don't hate her - I don't even dislike her. My ONLY real problem with her is that she's inbetween Sora and Riku, so it's not even that personal. If she would just get out of the way, I'd be happy.

She does have her fair share of negative traits - she is human after all. But she also has some nice one's too; albit being a bit manipulative (even if I was impartial, I wouldn't have missed that...).

I think that she might be a leo personality - they don't really mean to be mean, selfish, or obnoxious, or whatever... But they are sometimes, without realising it. Also, if we follow that she is that archatype, then she also has many good qualities, such as... such as... um... uh...

.......

......

So I can't think of any good leo traits at the moment, that doesn't mean anything!


......

.......


Really!

Scathach13


Torrina Shirogane

PostPosted: Sat Dec 10, 2005 7:32 pm


Scathach13
The thing is that I don't hate her - I don't even dislike her. My ONLY real problem with her is that she's inbetween Sora and Riku, so it's not even that personal. If she would just get out of the way, I'd be happy.

She does have her fair share of negative traits - she is human after all. But she also has some nice one's too; albit being a bit manipulative (even if I was impartial, I wouldn't have missed that...).

I think that she might be a leo personality - they don't really mean to be mean, selfish, or obnoxious, or whatever... But they are sometimes, without realising it. Also, if we follow that she is that archatype, then she also has many good qualities, such as... such as... um... uh...

.......

......

So I can't think of any good leo traits at the moment, that doesn't mean anything!


......

.......


Really!


rofl Sure it doesn't. X3;;
PostPosted: Sun Dec 11, 2005 11:33 am


kupo-tenshi
Because I wanna be a jerk today...my comments in bold. Kthnxbai. :'D

Nicky Sarian
Well, alright.
She's not THAT bad of a character for starters.
Oh really? Please explain why she never once recognized Riku for what he did for her and felt the need to run away with Sora in the beginning. She's not evil, but she's not all that innocent either. Something that most people automatically assume about her.

She's simpley not as complex as you make her to be.
That's why we hate her. Her personality ISN'T complex. It's simple. She's such a recyclable (so to say) cliched Squaregirl. u_u

She's a static love interest, who remains the same through out the story.
She's kinda DEAD for most of the story.

She can't be a slut, she can't be a whore, she can't even be manipulative.
Eh, I agree. Somewhat. She's not completely innocent and if she had the chance, I'm sure she'd keep Sora all to herself.

She's just that not deep, y'know?
What? o_o

The only role she represents in the game is drive.
I dunno. The only major role she has in the game is being one of the Princesses. She has no symbolic role. Rather, she's just the REASON Sora and Riku are apart...they were both looking for her, coming from two sides (light and dark) and Kairi only seemed to appreciate the risks Sora had taken in the story.

She's the reason Sora drove to find her and Riku.
Uh, Sora was looking for Kairi AND Riku. It wasn't because of Kairi that Sora also looked for Riku. D: If Kairi wasn't there at all, Sora would've still searched for Riku.

She's the reason that Riku went to the dark side.(Which is good.)
Now, how is this good again? =|

Without her, the game wouldn't really exsist.
hmm...

Playful, sincre, fun-loving, etc.
(...) By the end of the game I hadn't caught an "playful, sincere, and fun-loving" traits in her personality...maybe it's just me. =|

And she looks exactly like my ex.
Sorry, this doesn't count. :'D

=D I'm one of the few people on here that actually respects Kairi. Damn, now I just sound like a big hypocrite. ^^; *goes to eat cookies*


eek
You...are my new role model. :'D

FileUnder_SoftcoreSeizure


Scathach13

PostPosted: Sun Dec 11, 2005 3:38 pm


Well... she looks cute. That's got to count for something, right? -_-"
PostPosted: Sun Dec 11, 2005 7:31 pm


I'm not a big Kairi fan...

But I wouldn't say she's a slut exactly

It's not like she walks around saying 'Oh god Sora please CENSORE me CENSORED and CENSOR with my CENSORED while Riku CENSOREs my CENSORED with two big CENSORED'

Though, the skirt pretty much says it for her =P

It's her...erm...'existence' that sparks a rivarly between Sora and Riku

And their rivalry draws them closer together

heart -starry eyes- heart

OblivionMelody


FileUnder_SoftcoreSeizure

PostPosted: Mon Dec 12, 2005 1:31 pm


OblivionMelody
I'm not a big Kairi fan...

But I wouldn't say she's a slut exactly

It's not like she walks around saying 'Oh god Sora please CENSORE me CENSORED and CENSOR with my CENSORED while Riku CENSOREs my CENSORED with two big CENSORED'

Though, the skirt pretty much says it for her =P

It's her...erm...'existence' that sparks a rivarly between Sora and Riku

And their rivalry draws them closer together

heart -starry eyes- heart
I guess that's one way of looking at it...?
PostPosted: Mon Dec 12, 2005 3:10 pm


I didn't think Kairi was so bad, I mean it's not as if she had enough of an active role in the story as much as being a partial reason for the progression of the story.

Plus you can't know what Kairi was feeling or thinking during Kingdom Hearts except for the fact she cared for Sora, Most of the story she's either not present, talking with Sora, or unconcious with Riku and the Disney villians, that's not much to base hatred on.

o.O;;;

(of course I was probably fantasizing about Leon and Cid heart )

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Torrina Shirogane

PostPosted: Mon Dec 12, 2005 3:42 pm


Arucard07
I didn't think Kairi was so bad, I mean it's not as if she had enough of an active role in the story as much as being a partial reason for the progression of the story.

Plus you can't know what Kairi was feeling or thinking during Kingdom Hearts except for the fact she cared for Sora, Most of the story she's either not present, talking with Sora, or unconcious with Riku and the Disney villians, that's not much to base hatred on.

o.O;;;

(of course I was probably fantasizing about Leon and Cid heart )


You've got a point, but I think it's her general attitude that sparks the hatred among us fans. I mean, she could at least respect Riku for all that he's done for her, you know? Instead, she sort of just forgets about him and runs to Sora. ><
PostPosted: Tue Dec 13, 2005 6:40 am


Torrina Shirogane
Arucard07
I didn't think Kairi was so bad, I mean it's not as if she had enough of an active role in the story as much as being a partial reason for the progression of the story.

Plus you can't know what Kairi was feeling or thinking during Kingdom Hearts except for the fact she cared for Sora, Most of the story she's either not present, talking with Sora, or unconcious with Riku and the Disney villians, that's not much to base hatred on.

o.O;;;

(of course I was probably fantasizing about Leon and Cid heart )


You've got a point, but I think it's her general attitude that sparks the hatred among us fans. I mean, she could at least respect Riku for all that he's done for her, you know? Instead, she sort of just forgets about him and runs to Sora. ><

True, yo !

of course maybe she doesn't see what Riku's doing for her I mean, Riku's mostly in the shadows while Sora's out searching for Kairi.

o.o;

but your right, She does need to realize that Riku was doing the exact same thing for her that Sora was only taking a diffetent way !

>.<

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Torrina Shirogane

PostPosted: Tue Dec 13, 2005 9:11 am


Arucard07
Torrina Shirogane
Arucard07
I didn't think Kairi was so bad, I mean it's not as if she had enough of an active role in the story as much as being a partial reason for the progression of the story.

Plus you can't know what Kairi was feeling or thinking during Kingdom Hearts except for the fact she cared for Sora, Most of the story she's either not present, talking with Sora, or unconcious with Riku and the Disney villians, that's not much to base hatred on.

o.O;;;

(of course I was probably fantasizing about Leon and Cid heart )


You've got a point, but I think it's her general attitude that sparks the hatred among us fans. I mean, she could at least respect Riku for all that he's done for her, you know? Instead, she sort of just forgets about him and runs to Sora. ><

True, yo !

of course maybe she doesn't see what Riku's doing for her I mean, Riku's mostly in the shadows while Sora's out searching for Kairi.

o.o;

but your right, She does need to realize that Riku was doing the exact same thing for her that Sora was only taking a diffetent way !

>.<


Yeah, he went along with Maleficent's plan, and kidnapped the princesses in order to find out where Kairi was. Not to mention, he kidnapped Pinocchio in an attempt to give her back her heart. Oh, and there was also that whole scene in Hollow Bastion where Riku temporarily overcame Ansem's control, and told her, Donald, and Goofy to run. Hopefully, Kairi realized at that point that Riku had just saved her from being killed by Ansem... ><
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