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 Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 2:48 am
Is it just me or is every Femme character created, in comics or cartoons, just really lame personality wise?
Its like they come in three models:
(I had to edit this in order not to swear so I hope you'll understand my meaning as I attempt to find a Cybertronian equivalent)
Glitch
Killer Glitch
or Crazy...I'll say Pleasure Model.
What is the point of a femme anyway? Where the creators trying to draw in a female audience? Or just make the Cybertronians seem less gay for having an all "male" species?
I thought gender was a state of mind for giant alain robots? Why do they have BOOBS! They don't even serve a purpose! At least have them shoot lasers or bombs or something! That at least would be epic as well as LMAO funny! rofl
But NO! They have BOOBS that do nothing except serve to say "Hey! Look at these! I'm a Femme!" which is kind of retarded because if you're going to do that you might as well give them sex definite genitals like humans do and just forget the gender of the mind thing.
Which would suck slag! Because personally, one of the things I loved about Cybertronian culture was the fact that gender was a state of mind and not a physical state of being. I loved that all bots where essentially either asexual or hermaphrodites for all the good genitals might do them! And then along came the FEMMES! And Fragged it all up for me and my inner childhood happy fantasy land of metal and steampunkery! ARGH!
...Anyone else feel that way?
Wow this topic is old...
Anyway, I used to think i hated the femmes but really i just hated the way the femmes were presented and written. for a long time they felt like less like actual female characters and more like what some hermit who had never even seen a female anything outside of his Barbie doll collection thought a female was, which would explain why in the beginning the femmes were popular with male fans but not female ones.
im glad to see much better development in female characters in media, including transformers, and as a result, female fans can finally connect with the female characters.
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Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 3:01 am
Well... you go ranting all you want about boobs and stuff, but I've seen some pretty big packages on some of the mechs. 'Specially Optimus Prime.
....just sayin'. stare
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Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 3:30 am
Meirelle
Well... you go ranting all you want about boobs and stuff, but I've seen some pretty big packages on some of the mechs. 'Specially Optimus Prime.
....just sayin'. stare
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Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 5:53 am
In her or anyone else's case, probably not. ^^
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Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 12:15 pm
fembot are cool i love Arcee ether she be G1, IDW comic or animated she rocks when used well
why have lady bots well i think futurama best answered that with "fem oil"
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Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 1:44 pm
You're just mad because "gay" pairings aren't canon. razz
No, but seriously. The series that they exist (without tinkering by Jhiaxus), they exist for a purpose. Some are caretakers, or teachers, others are on equal footing with their male counterparts.
In the case of IDW, it would seem that machines don't NEED females to reproduce, but then, they don't NEED love either. I have not seen one hint since IDW started their transformer-verse that hinted at any characters needing affection, short of comradery and friendship.
G1, they make it seemingly apparent that females might be necessary for the race, be they as machines with different roles, or possibly even necessary for raising new transformers (I've seen some interesting theories to this that seem quite plausible, given that it's hinted that Elita-1's and Chromia's gang is not the only group of fem-bots left in G1)
In the movie, It's unknown, as the only females that have appeared were the Arcee triplets.
in Animated, given that the animators even tried remotely to include females almost on an equal par with other characters later (after the main cast was established), it's quite possible that they also are needed for reproduction somehow. However, the writers did not delve into this, so it's all speculation at this point.
All I'm saying is DON'T RAPE MY CHILDHOOD(j/k) they may have a good reason for having fem-bots present. And since they're canon, there isn't much you can do about it.
Also, mechs assume a varying degree of masculinity... for what purpose, by this logic? Masculinity isn't necessarily advantageous in battle. You don't need to have a massive robo-package to blow a hole in a decepticon. (unless you're Warpath *snicker*). Masculinity generally is only for one purpose in any race. To attract a mate of the opposite sex.
Henceforth, we canonically have fembots. *shrug*
Their presence doesn't threaten your desire to make gay mech pairings, so why do they bother you so? confused
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Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 1:49 pm
Pumkinn Meirelle
Well... you go ranting all you want about boobs and stuff, but I've seen some pretty big packages on some of the mechs. 'Specially Optimus Prime.
....just sayin'. stare
Megatron is even worse. Take a look throughout all the Megatrons in history and you'll see nine times out of ten, the Mighty Triggercrotch. Even when he's not a gun, he still has a huge codpiece shaped like a trigger.
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Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 7:23 pm
BogiePop fembot are cool i love Arcee ether she be G1, IDW comic or animated she rocks when used well why have lady bots well i think futurama best answered that with "fem oil"
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Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 7:24 pm
Mylian Pumkinn Meirelle
Well... you go ranting all you want about boobs and stuff, but I've seen some pretty big packages on some of the mechs. 'Specially Optimus Prime.
....just sayin'. stare
Megatron is even worse. Take a look throughout all the Megatrons in history and you'll see nine times out of ten, the Mighty Triggercrotch. Even when he's not a gun, he still has a huge codpiece shaped like a trigger.
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Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 7:25 pm
MechaMan Blade BogiePop fembot are cool i love Arcee ether she be G1, IDW comic or animated she rocks when used well why have lady bots well i think futurama best answered that with "fem oil"
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Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 7:32 pm
Yamato1 You're just mad because "gay" pairings aren't canon. razz No, but seriously. The series that they exist (without tinkering by Jhiaxus), they exist for a purpose. Some are caretakers, or teachers, others are on equal footing with their male counterparts. In the case of IDW, it would seem that machines don't NEED females to reproduce, but then, they don't NEED love either. I have not seen one hint since IDW started their transformer-verse that hinted at any characters needing affection, short of comradery and friendship. G1, they make it seemingly apparent that females might be necessary for the race, be they as machines with different roles, or possibly even necessary for raising new transformers (I've seen some interesting theories to this that seem quite plausible, given that it's hinted that Elita-1's and Chromia's gang is not the only group of fem-bots left in G1) In the movie, It's unknown, as the only females that have appeared were the Arcee triplets. in Animated, given that the animators even tried remotely to include females almost on an equal par with other characters later (after the main cast was established), it's quite possible that they also are needed for reproduction somehow. However, the writers did not delve into this, so it's all speculation at this point. All I'm saying is DON'T RAPE MY CHILDHOOD(j/k) they may have a good reason for having fem-bots present. And since they're canon, there isn't much you can do about it. Also, mechs assume a varying degree of masculinity... for what purpose, by this logic? Masculinity isn't necessarily advantageous in battle. You don't need to have a massive robo-package to blow a hole in a decepticon. (unless you're Warpath *snicker*). Masculinity generally is only for one purpose in any race. To attract a mate of the opposite sex. Henceforth, we canonically have fembots. *shrug* Their presence doesn't threaten your desire to make gay mech pairings, so why do they bother you so? confused
In anycase, I just happen to find the "female" characters to be annoying since they never do seem to quite equal with the "males" and only serve the purpose of making them seem even more masculine which I find to be just as silly as their TriggerCrotches, their Boobs that do NOTHING, and in some cases the "beards" or giant CHINS OF GREAT JUSTICE!
...It just seems rather silly to me.
And the femme chars are still annoying.
I honestly can't think of one "female" transformers character with a personality that I would like to befriend or even socialize with on a day to day basis.
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Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 8:53 pm
Pumkinn Yamato1 You're just mad because "gay" pairings aren't canon. razz No, but seriously. The series that they exist (without tinkering by Jhiaxus), they exist for a purpose. Some are caretakers, or teachers, others are on equal footing with their male counterparts. In the case of IDW, it would seem that machines don't NEED females to reproduce, but then, they don't NEED love either. I have not seen one hint since IDW started their transformer-verse that hinted at any characters needing affection, short of comradery and friendship. G1, they make it seemingly apparent that females might be necessary for the race, be they as machines with different roles, or possibly even necessary for raising new transformers (I've seen some interesting theories to this that seem quite plausible, given that it's hinted that Elita-1's and Chromia's gang is not the only group of fem-bots left in G1) In the movie, It's unknown, as the only females that have appeared were the Arcee triplets. in Animated, given that the animators even tried remotely to include females almost on an equal par with other characters later (after the main cast was established), it's quite possible that they also are needed for reproduction somehow. However, the writers did not delve into this, so it's all speculation at this point. All I'm saying is DON'T RAPE MY CHILDHOOD(j/k) they may have a good reason for having fem-bots present. And since they're canon, there isn't much you can do about it. Also, mechs assume a varying degree of masculinity... for what purpose, by this logic? Masculinity isn't necessarily advantageous in battle. You don't need to have a massive robo-package to blow a hole in a decepticon. (unless you're Warpath *snicker*). Masculinity generally is only for one purpose in any race. To attract a mate of the opposite sex. Henceforth, we canonically have fembots. *shrug* Their presence doesn't threaten your desire to make gay mech pairings, so why do they bother you so? confused
In anycase, I just happen to find the "female" characters to be annoying since they never do seem to quite equal with the "males" and only serve the purpose of making them seem even more masculine which I find to be just as silly as their TriggerCrotches, their Boobs that do NOTHING, and in some cases the "beards" or giant CHINS OF GREAT JUSTICE!
...It just seems rather silly to me.
And the femme chars are still annoying.
I honestly can't think of one "female" transformers character with a personality that I would like to befriend or even socialize with on a day to day basis.Ok, fair enough. I made an assumption that because you hate fembots, you were all about the gayformers, lol. But regardless of whether it's silly or not, fembots exist, and therefore make the race... non-asexual, with the exception of the IDW universe. Though Jhiaxus claims it was all part of the "natural evolution" of the Cybertronian race, and he was just.. "helping it along". *shrug* They're alien robots, but do they have to be THAT alien? The Thundercats could have been asexual, but they weren't. The Silverhawks could have been asexual, but THEY weren't. I mean, the idea of a race that's evolved beyond the need for dual genders is interesting, And I don't fault you for wishing it were so, but it's NOT so. *shrug*
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Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 12:06 am
Yamato1 Pumkinn Yamato1 You're just mad because "gay" pairings aren't canon. razz No, but seriously. The series that they exist (without tinkering by Jhiaxus), they exist for a purpose. Some are caretakers, or teachers, others are on equal footing with their male counterparts. In the case of IDW, it would seem that machines don't NEED females to reproduce, but then, they don't NEED love either. I have not seen one hint since IDW started their transformer-verse that hinted at any characters needing affection, short of comradery and friendship. G1, they make it seemingly apparent that females might be necessary for the race, be they as machines with different roles, or possibly even necessary for raising new transformers (I've seen some interesting theories to this that seem quite plausible, given that it's hinted that Elita-1's and Chromia's gang is not the only group of fem-bots left in G1) In the movie, It's unknown, as the only females that have appeared were the Arcee triplets. in Animated, given that the animators even tried remotely to include females almost on an equal par with other characters later (after the main cast was established), it's quite possible that they also are needed for reproduction somehow. However, the writers did not delve into this, so it's all speculation at this point. All I'm saying is DON'T RAPE MY CHILDHOOD(j/k) they may have a good reason for having fem-bots present. And since they're canon, there isn't much you can do about it. Also, mechs assume a varying degree of masculinity... for what purpose, by this logic? Masculinity isn't necessarily advantageous in battle. You don't need to have a massive robo-package to blow a hole in a decepticon. (unless you're Warpath *snicker*). Masculinity generally is only for one purpose in any race. To attract a mate of the opposite sex. Henceforth, we canonically have fembots. *shrug* Their presence doesn't threaten your desire to make gay mech pairings, so why do they bother you so? confused
In anycase, I just happen to find the "female" characters to be annoying since they never do seem to quite equal with the "males" and only serve the purpose of making them seem even more masculine which I find to be just as silly as their TriggerCrotches, their Boobs that do NOTHING, and in some cases the "beards" or giant CHINS OF GREAT JUSTICE!
...It just seems rather silly to me.
And the femme chars are still annoying.
I honestly can't think of one "female" transformers character with a personality that I would like to befriend or even socialize with on a day to day basis.Ok, fair enough. I made an assumption that because you hate fembots, you were all about the gayformers, lol. But regardless of whether it's silly or not, fembots exist, and therefore make the race... non-asexual, with the exception of the IDW universe. Though Jhiaxus claims it was all part of the "natural evolution" of the Cybertronian race, and he was just.. "helping it along". *shrug* They're alien robots, but do they have to be THAT alien? The Thundercats could have been asexual, but they weren't. The Silverhawks could have been asexual, but THEY weren't. I mean, the idea of a race that's evolved beyond the need for dual genders is interesting, And I don't fault you for wishing it were so, but it's NOT so. *shrug*
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Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 1:56 am
You go on about femmes having boobs and all that, but the dudes look as masculine as the femmes look feminine. If you really want to get down to the root of the question, it's, "Why the slag do Transformers even look humanoid!?"
But that is an entirely different can of worms.
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Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 9:51 am
I think some of the femme bots have define personality. It might not be someone you wish to befriend cuz you might be murdered in your sleep but never the less they have their personality. I think Beast Wars indicated that clearly when you compare Blackarachnia and Airrazor.
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