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the_forgotten_thought Captain
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Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2009 6:11 pm
most of you guys are just horny.
okie dokie, so my mom is a very opinionated woman. maybe that's where i get it from. anyways, we were in the car and talkin about how she thought my brother still didn't know about me cuz i hadn't told him. i'm pretty sure he does, but i just haven't told him.
anyways, she was askin me why i haven't told him, and i said cuz it's harder to accept a gay relative than a gay friend. anyone else realize that friends will be there for you if you come out, but family is willing to drop you? what ever happened to blood being thicker than water? and they still have the gall to say it's the youth corrupting society? HELLO!
anyways, continuing with my long gay conversation, somehow i guess i changed the conversation to bi people (yeah, we all know i'm really good at gettin off-topic by now) and she said flat out "there's no such thing as bi. bi people are just horny and willing to get with anyone who will lay them" well, me being the terrible person i am defied her and decided to tell her as it is.
"mother! honestly, that is a horrible misconception. that's the worst stereotype, but everyone seems to think it. did you know in greek times, there were certain sections of houses in which people would fornicate, and they would lay with men AND women? doesn't that suggest fluid sexuality?"
and she started getting really offensive, trying to prove me wrong. so finally i was just like, "mom, can't you understand that sometimes people make deep connections with others and form a sexual attraction? it can occur between any gender, because love sees no gender for some people. some people understand love DIFFERENTLY" and i meant differently than she percieves it.
geez, damn close minded people out there. always ruining my days and arguing with me. but then again, this was with the woman that i had to come out to FOUR TIMES and who STILL claims that i'm prolly not really gay.
okie dokie, i'm done. haha, congrats on finishing this. discussion topics:
how do you respond to people making such allegations against bisexuals? have you ever heard people say this to you if your bi? do you think it's harder to come out as a bi person because of this misconception? (not that coming out's easy for anyone) and whatever else you can think of from this.
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Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2009 1:54 am
I cant say anything really, you just explained it all
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Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2009 4:54 pm
I think since most of the parents these days, grew up in a time where homosexuality was looked down upon, they just don't get or want to get anything we try to convince them of. They just want to live in their own happy world and pretend the 'problem' isn't there.
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Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2009 5:15 pm
My husband got hit for saying that about a friend of his...tards.
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the_forgotten_thought Captain
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Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2009 8:33 pm
MeZicH My husband got hit for saying that about a friend of his...tards. haha, damn! well, that's usually my prefered method of teaching people something (cuz violence is just ten times more fun!)
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Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2009 9:18 pm
the_forgotten_thought MeZicH My husband got hit for saying that about a friend of his...tards. haha, damn! well, that's usually my prefered method of teaching people something (cuz violence is just ten times more fun!) True, why discuss something when you can get a quick sack tap on some dude who's a douchebag.
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the_forgotten_thought Captain
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Posted: Sun Aug 02, 2009 12:09 am
Mister Futa the_forgotten_thought MeZicH My husband got hit for saying that about a friend of his...tards. haha, damn! well, that's usually my prefered method of teaching people something (cuz violence is just ten times more fun!) True, why discuss something when you can get a quick sack tap on some dude who's a douchebag. ...i dunno if that's sarcasm (damn internet!) but i've always prefered the easy way of hitting jerks! haha.
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Posted: Sun Aug 02, 2009 1:59 pm
the_forgotten_thought Mister Futa the_forgotten_thought MeZicH My husband got hit for saying that about a friend of his...tards. haha, damn! well, that's usually my prefered method of teaching people something (cuz violence is just ten times more fun!) True, why discuss something when you can get a quick sack tap on some dude who's a douchebag. ...i dunno if that's sarcasm (damn internet!) but i've always prefered the easy way of hitting jerks! haha. He's just an a** about s**t like that, its not 'natural' to be gay or some s**t.
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Posted: Sun Aug 02, 2009 4:45 pm
Amazing you really do know how to argue and great points and my mom thinks im just like expirmenting and stuff so hmm
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Posted: Sun Aug 02, 2009 5:34 pm
yeah, usually when people come out to their parents as bi, the parents assume that they're just experimenting or being stupid teenagers. that's why i wanted to see if anyone here thinks it's harder to come out as bi than it is to come out as gay. i mean, sure, it's never an easy task to tell your parents you aren't living up to their perfect expectations, but i mean, with all these misconceptions, i thought it'd be harder to be bi.
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the_forgotten_thought Captain
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Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2009 2:50 pm
how do you respond to people making such allegations against bisexuals? yea i have my mom all she does is be like being gay or bisexual doesnt exist that is a phase that im going trough and it been 2 years now
have you ever heard people say this to you if your bi? do you think it's harder to come out as a bi person because of this misconception? (not that coming out's easy for anyone) and whatever else you can think of from this. yea ive hear it it hard to really come out to ur parents cuz there ur own blood and family they might not love u and disrespect u like my mom she doesnt care cuz of what i am and makes fun of me like alot when she saw this 2 girl kissing on the street she was like ewww and i was like ello im bi and she said idc it ******** discuting faggots gatto get a room just to make me feel bad it earier to come out to friends cuz there friends u can find new one after
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Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 12:04 am
my dad used to say gays are so different that they should have to go to special gay bathrooms and stuff. psh, you're insecure about your sexuality if you're too scared to go to the bathroom just cuz there's a possiblility that a gay guy is goin in the urinal next to you, if you ask me!
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the_forgotten_thought Captain
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Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 2:00 am
I really hate that stereotype. I really hate all stereotypes in fact! It's so single minded and stupid to believe such bizarre generalizations.
One of my favorite quotes is "I am bisexual. Girls, this does not mean i like you, guys this is not to impress you. I love a person, not a gender. And by the way it's none of your f***ing business!"
edit: oh yes, just thought i'd add that for me coming out was hard (although i don't really have any experiences to compare it to) but that was less because i thought people would think i'm a whore, and more because i read that bisexuals have it harder to find a place where they are accepted. People think so black and white, even though there are a thousand shades of grey. And it's not just heteros i'm talking about. Bisexuals can be rejected by both gay and straight communities because apparently there is no such thing.
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Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 2:08 pm
seriously. one of my gay friends (who's usually really nice to everyone unless he's feeling particularly bitchy that day) claims that bi is "either the stage when you're in denial about being gay, or just you experimenting and being horny" it's kinda sad, cuz then it makes me think that bisexuals don't fit in anywhere. but i mean, its LGBT(Q sometimes) and yet people seem to reject the B a lot.
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the_forgotten_thought Captain
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Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 8:55 pm
My offensive perception of a lot of Bi people is that they're lying. I don't REALLY think that but whenever somebody says they're Bi I tend to have some amount of disbelief at first because almost everybody else I've met who has said they are bi {Including me} either ended up coming out as Gay later{Like me, 1 week after coming out as Bi XD} or ended up being straight guys trying to pick up girls{There are a LOT of these}, and if not either of those, then they're emo kids trying to force them selfs into being in an oppressed minority group for attention, and when people don't believe them they exclaim "You're just Biphobic!".
See, I'd really LIKE to believe there are bisexual people in the world, I just haven't met any.
But the idea that they're just "Really horny" is very annoying.
The main reason it seems like gay men are extra "Biphobic" is because a lot of us have been heart-broken or burned by some guy who claimed to be bisexual to get girls and then either if they were a role model or if you had a crush on them, they are eventually revealed to be straight, causing heartbreaking either way.
Here's a good example, there was this older student at my school who MADE SURE everybody knew he was bisexual, he was quite the role model, Handsome, nice, everybody liked him, then when he is dating one girl, he gets caught cheating on her dating another girl! and when somebody captured a picture of him cheating he claimed it was photoshopped, EVEN THOUGH IT WAS TAKEN ON A CELL PHONE{Unless their cell phone can run photoshop, this isn't possible}, then while this is going on he starts spreading bad rumors about the girls who caught him cheating in order to turn people against them, and then while this wasn't working well {He was using Public school strategy in a private alternative school, of course it didn't work} he was caught cheating ON THE GIRL HE WAS DATING AFTER BEING CAUGHT CHEATING ON ANOTHER GIRL BY DATING THIS GIRL! in all this commotion he was talking with one of his friends{Though not many were left after finding out he cheated on every girl he's dated since he came to the school} talking about the whole thing, his friend said "I'm surprised you didn't cheat on any girls with any other guys since your bi" and he replied "Oh I'm not really bisexual, I just say that to pick up girls" and while it's obvious he didn't mean for people to hear this, he said this in a room WITHOUT A DOOR, and in a student film being shot in the hallway outside where this was happening, you could hear this conversation in the background! so when people found out he was lying about his relationships AND lying about his sexuality, he came clean about it and also admitted that all of the stories he told people about things he did in the past, WERE ALSO LIES, and to make this worse, this all happened last year, this last may he started telling people he was bisexual AGAIN, even though we already knew he was lying!
Obviously, since like I said at the beginning of the story that this guy was my role model originally, when I found out he was such a chronic lier {Especially about his sexuality} I was heartbroken, I mean, I looked up to this guy!
And then there were also 5 other guys that went to my school who all used the same tactic to pick up girls, which was of course "Pretend to be bisexual", and these people all ended up giving up the act once the king of the scam was revealed to be lying and admitted they were lying too.
Now I have more really long stories about this but that one was long enough.
There was also a student who claimed to be bisexual who 3 months after coming out as bi came out as gay.
And this past January when I came out, at first I said Bi but a week later realized that since I wasn't bi and nobody was surprised at all about the whole bi thing people wouldn't care about me being gay which is what I really am so I came out again as gay and people had the same reaction "huh? oh okay"{Some even forgot 5 times it was such a small matter}.
I mean, with girls I just don't bother thinking about it if they say they're bi since almost every girl I've met these days said they were bi when the topic of GLBTness came up.
I think maybe girls just don't see gender or something and thus when it's more accepted to be gay then all the girls just go "Oh, I've had a crush on a girl before, I'm probably bi".
But yeah, I think it would be easier to come out as bi then gay since girls will just like you MORE and straight guys will just ignore it, and your parents will just say "It's a phase".
Really, I don't want to say I'm Biphobic, if somebody says they're Bi and after I ask them again a week later, they still say they're Bi, I'll believe them, but since most guys a week later admit to being straight or gay, I'm just cautious about it.
Like, there is still 1 male student at my school who insists on being bi after all the others came out{As straight razz } so I'll believe that he is bi.
And this isn't because I was hunting out bi guys or anything like that XD, that whole story I told earlier was told to me by the first girl that was cheated on, a year after it happened, like I said I have more personal stories but thats the best example of why I'm cautious.
Also I hope people read this post before they jump to a conclusion that I'm Biphobic.
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