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Gho the Girl

PostPosted: Thu Jul 30, 2009 10:58 am


Why is it that when I was at Summerstar, a pagan festival held on the west coast, I felt a lot closer to God than I did on the plane home surrounded by fundamentalist baptists?

Why is it that at the Open Arms MCC church I refound God when in my traditional church I lost God?

What of you all? How do you feel when around Pagans and others who fall outside of traditional Christian orthodoxy?
PostPosted: Sat Aug 22, 2009 9:46 am


I honestly think all religions lead to God. Even if you don't accept Jesus Christ, doesn't God love you enough to forgive you? I think these people probably understand that and by practicing love and not hate they're bringing glory to Him.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 23, 2009 6:03 am


I have a hard time when isolated among any group from any religion. Now, I like christians, muslems, Buhddists, and have absolutely not a problem with any of them, until they ask about my religion and I'm forced to explain about our God.


"You know existence, and how God is supposed to have created the earth and everything on it? How he was supposed to have created the heavens and the earth and all the angels?------- Our God is the parent of the one above that one."
PostPosted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 2:12 pm


I find I'm more comfortable, actually, with established religious orthodoxy. It's what I grew up with, after all - a tradition that both valued orthodoxy (and orthopraxy) and also asking questions, debating, discussing, and legalisms ad infinitum.

Shaviv


jaden kendam

PostPosted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 10:19 am


usiylover2
I honestly think all religions lead to God. Even if you don't accept Jesus Christ, doesn't God love you enough to forgive you?


Just a correction and not to start a fight, but how do you explain atheistic religions?

usiylover2
I think these people probably understand that and by practicing love and not hate they're bringing glory to Him.


Not every pagan religion is about love, so I highly doubt it.
PostPosted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 10:21 am


To answer your quetion though Gho...maybe it was because the pagans you were with were accepting of others or at least open to communication about different faiths? Some churches, even non-Abrahamic churches, say they are open, but are really closed minded when someone challenges their view point.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 3:32 pm


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I honestly think all religions lead to God. Even if you don't accept Jesus Christ, doesn't God love you enough to forgive you?


Just a correction and not to start a fight, but how do you explain atheistic religions?

usiylover2
I think these people probably understand that and by practicing love and not hate they're bringing glory to Him.


Not every pagan religion is about love, so I highly doubt it.


Atheism is the lack of belief in one true god, so some kinds of Buddhism are technically 'atheist'.

There probably are some kinds of demon-worshiping Pagan religions, although there are also the Pagans who, although they worship whatever gods/goddesses they have, many are generally very accepting. I have a few Pagan friends, and I've looked up a little about it.
PostPosted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 4:11 pm


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Atheism is the lack of belief in one true god, so some kinds of Buddhism are technically 'atheist'.
That was the point he was trying to make.

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There probably are some kinds of demon-worshiping Pagan religions, although there are also the Pagans who, although they worship whatever gods/goddesses they have, many are generally very accepting. I have a few Pagan friends, and I've looked up a little about it.


The thing about "pagan" is that it is an umbrella term for any non-Abrahamic religion. It's actually very hard to say anything universal about Pagans except that their religion has no roots in Abrahamic tradition since pagan religions are very diverse.

To some Pagans a blessing of peace is a great blaspheme to them since such blessing might mean they never see a war which in some Pagan religions is necessary for an awesome afterlife or they might never come to some necessary trial in their life because it is peaceful.

But yes many of the pagans I've met are generally very accepting but there are some pagans that are "evangelical" about their religion and will slam others for not agreeing with them.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 4:48 pm


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lenon01

Atheism is the lack of belief in one true god, so some kinds of Buddhism are technically 'atheist'.
That was the point he was trying to make.

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There probably are some kinds of demon-worshiping Pagan religions, although there are also the Pagans who, although they worship whatever gods/goddesses they have, many are generally very accepting. I have a few Pagan friends, and I've looked up a little about it.


The thing about "pagan" is that it is an umbrella term for any non-Abrahamic religion. It's actually very hard to say anything universal about Pagans except that their religion has no roots in Abrahamic tradition since pagan religions are very diverse.

To some Pagans a blessing of peace is a great blaspheme to them since such blessing might mean they never see a war which in some Pagan religions is necessary for an awesome afterlife or they might never come to some necessary trial in their life because it is peaceful.

But yes many of the pagans I've met are generally very accepting but there are some pagans that are "evangelical" about their religion and will slam others for not agreeing with them.

That can be said about nearly every religion, I know some Mormans that would give you the shirt off there back but I also know some that I'd rather avoid on a regular basis. The truth is that love is so ingrained in us that we naturaly find it on almost any path we take. God so beautifuly ingrained it within us that our live is more about others than it is about ours that we can't feel right going about our lives any other way.
PostPosted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 12:22 am


Paganism is too broad a term to discuss. Too many different kinds. Fascinating to learn about, but easy to get drawn into. Much love brothers and sisters.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 1:17 pm


In my studies of other world religions and primal religions, I find so much truth about God, but usually expressed in a different way. So many times I'll find myself feeling more enlightened after reading Hindu scripture than I will after reading the Bible. I think part of this may be because it's new material to me, but this is largely why I became a religious pluralist. I believe God is found in most, if not all, major religions we see on earth. Just because I've chosen Christianity as my way of making a relationship with God, doesn't mean that the Muslim next door hasn't found his own relationship with the Almighty.
PostPosted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 5:36 pm


Personally I believe that as long as the worship is directed exclusively at God and Christ, that He is the one being revered and glorified and you do so with all your heart, you are still worshipping God in a Righteous manner, even if you do it a bit differently than someone else...

Now, granted, if you break any of God's commandments in this worship of him, I think it's a good idea to find a more orthodox service.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 12, 2010 8:35 pm


my stepdad is a Hindu, and very understanding of different religions. my mom is a Wiccan (and even a luff-bunny one at that) who grew up in an all-christian family, and she has a strong bias against christianity.

in their household, i was raised in an extremely religious-neutral environment. the vibe i got was that christian mythology was good, but that christians were bad, hypocritical, self-righteous.

i was, for the longest time, an atheist. i was under the impression that while it wasn't impossible, it didn't make sense for there to be a God or Gods. however, when i was about 17 i had my first direct experience with the Divine. it was all the proof i needed.

i was already a practitioner of Magic, Communing with Spirits, Astral Projecting. so, i looked first into Magic-based religions. Wicca and various Pagan religions were my first stop. i didn't quite connect with either. i looked into Shinto, Shamanism, Hinduism, and Doaism. much better connections, but still didn't feel solid. Paganism came back into the mix, but i was very ecclectic.

i ended up being convinced to go to a christian youth group. they were an interesting mix. mostly converts, or those who were not christian but convinced to join in, like me. i felt like there was a certain connection we all had.

turns out, that while each of us had our differences, we were able to share in the love of the variety. in fact, i almost converted to christianity twice.

however, i was deluding myself. and when i finaly came to my senses, i felt very brainwashed, and wanted to get out of there. so i turned back to Pagan groups. but i noticed there this incredibly hypocritical hatred of christians. sad

so, again, i find myself caught between two worlds, sympathetic to both sides but fully accepted by neither. sweatdrop

the way i see it, religion and personal bias both tend to get in the way of true Faith. but it matters more what the environment is when finding your personal connection to God.
PostPosted: Thu Oct 14, 2010 8:33 am


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my stepdad is a Hindu,


Many Hindu's would say that we're all Hindus, since they would simply recognize the Christian God and Jesus as another facet of Brahman. This is why I love Hinduism, and why I would be a Hindu if I wasn't a Christian.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 14, 2010 11:31 pm


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my stepdad is a Hindu,


Many Hindu's would say that we're all Hindus, since they would simply recognize the Christian God and Jesus as another facet of Brahman. This is why I love Hinduism, and why I would be a Hindu if I wasn't a Christian.


^_^ it is definitely a prominent part of my upbringing.

actually, i'll be honest, i don't think Jesus was ever realy an Incarnation of the One. sweatdrop great Prophet, but realy just Human. Christianity wasn't meant to be about worshiping him as God. it was meant to be an evolution of the Jewish Faith, emulating him in God-Worship.

but that's just my take on it. sweatdrop
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