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 Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 8:05 pm
Okay i need to know information on abortion everything you got why it is bad.
please i am trying to prepare myself for any debate that comes up..
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Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 8:31 pm
Make it simple. It's taking a human life without just cause. That's it.
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Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 8:45 pm
yeah but saying that people could argue about it harming the mother what would u say to someone like that?
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Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 6:17 am
There they have just cause. If they want to have abortion in the case of serious danger to the woman's life, that's fine. That's something like 5%, something like that, and it's a better cause than "because I don't want a child." Let them have it.
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Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 4:29 pm
I suggest you do research on sites like priestsforlife.com, righttolife.com, and other such pro-life websites.
Some points to look into are these.
- abortion exponetially increases a woman's risk of breast cancer, much more harmful than birth control pills or HRT (Hormone Replacement Therapy) has proven to be.
- A high percentage of women who have undergone abortion have at least some symptoms of depression, most being severe enough to warrant medical attention, i.e. psychiatric assistance ranging from visits to supervision of come sort for suicidal tendencies.
- A majority of women who become impregnated from rape or incest keep the baby as they feel it was be a second traumatic event to take the baby's life, and that it wasn't the babies fault they were conceived.
- It's a rarity for the mother's life to be at risk for such procedures to be necessary. There are instances of mothers having high risk pregnancies or major illnesses risk their lives to ensure the baby's birth.
- The doctors who perform these surgeries are very frequently ones who are unable to secure positions in a major medical field. I can most assuredly name at least one case of an abortion clinic that was run by a 'doctor' who was not licensed to practice any type of medicine. Most people don't know because they are making a decision in a time of distress and don't check on the medical facilities staff.
- Abortion clinics don't report all of their abortions because the take a good number of cases 'under the table'. Since a lot of the places mostly take cash, they don't have to report the true number of abortions they perform, nor do they report the great number of late term abortions performed. This makes statistics on the number of abortions performed skewed at best, and greatly under-estimated at worst.
- A large percentage of women who have had an abortion, felt pressured to do so, most likely by the father, parents, family members, their doctor, or some authority figure in their lives. So much for choice.
Those are just the ones that I can think of. Do research before you use and of that information. This way you have sources to document and say, well here's where you can find this.
How about you also tell people where the greatest mockery of family, Planned Parenthood, started. How the woman who opened the door for abortion in this country, began it because she was a Eugenist (someone who believes in the 'science' of engineering a 'pure race'. Know anyone in history who believed that. Yep, and guess what, the Planned Parenthood National Committee had members that sat in on meetings with Hitler himself, reporting back how well things were going in Europe. Of course when he lost the war, they had to change tactics.
Remember this. If abortion clinics cared so much for womanhood, there would be a Planned Parenthood in every rich neighborhood. As it is, I only see them in slums and ghettos, oh and maybe the poorer of the middle class neighborhoods too.
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Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2009 9:04 pm
Melosta I suggest you do research on sites like priestsforlife.com, righttolife.com, and other such pro-life websites. Some points to look into are these. - abortion exponetially increases a woman's risk of breast cancer, much more harmful than birth control pills or HRT (Hormone Replacement Therapy) has proven to be. - A high percentage of women who have undergone abortion have at least some symptoms of depression, most being severe enough to warrant medical attention, i.e. psychiatric assistance ranging from visits to supervision of come sort for suicidal tendencies. - A majority of women who become impregnated from rape or incest keep the baby as they feel it was be a second traumatic event to take the baby's life, and that it wasn't the babies fault they were conceived. - It's a rarity for the mother's life to be at risk for such procedures to be necessary. There are instances of mothers having high risk pregnancies or major illnesses risk their lives to ensure the baby's birth. - The doctors who perform these surgeries are very frequently ones who are unable to secure positions in a major medical field. I can most assuredly name at least one case of an abortion clinic that was run by a 'doctor' who was not licensed to practice any type of medicine. Most people don't know because they are making a decision in a time of distress and don't check on the medical facilities staff. - Abortion clinics don't report all of their abortions because the take a good number of cases 'under the table'. Since a lot of the places mostly take cash, they don't have to report the true number of abortions they perform, nor do they report the great number of late term abortions performed. This makes statistics on the number of abortions performed skewed at best, and greatly under-estimated at worst. - A large percentage of women who have had an abortion, felt pressured to do so, most likely by the father, parents, family members, their doctor, or some authority figure in their lives. So much for choice. Those are just the ones that I can think of. Do research before you use and of that information. This way you have sources to document and say, well here's where you can find this. How about you also tell people where the greatest mockery of family, Planned Parenthood, started. How the woman who opened the door for abortion in this country, began it because she was a Eugenist (someone who believes in the 'science' of engineering a 'pure race'. Know anyone in history who believed that. Yep, and guess what, the Planned Parenthood National Committee had members that sat in on meetings with Hitler himself, reporting back how well things were going in Europe. Of course when he lost the war, they had to change tactics. Remember this. If abortion clinics cared so much for womanhood, there would be a Planned Parenthood in every rich neighborhood. As it is, I only see them in slums and ghettos, oh and maybe the poorer of the middle class neighborhoods too. dosen't plan parent hood pay for abortions wouldn't it be even worse if you had them all over the united states and who know where else?
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Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2009 6:27 am
As long as it hasn't happened yet (or for future if it has)
Use the most non-biased sources you can. A fetus is a human life, that is pure science. If we as a society hold human life as something worth protecting, it should include fetal life.
Most arguments for abortion become null when that fact is put into evidence. You can't kill anyone else for financial reasons, or because you think they'll have a bad life, or because you just don't want to deal with them. How can we make a distinction between human beings and say that some deserve protection but others do not?
I don't really have time for more because I have to get to work. Melosta is entirely right about doing your research. I wouldn't suggest using the breast cancer argument because it's highly debated and hard to prove, and the under the table abortions are hard to prove too, but if you can find a bunch of reliable (as in both sides will accept the source) sources to back them up, go for it.
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Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2009 7:46 pm
What I mean by that is they say they care about the betterment of womankind. Planned Parenthood has clinics mainly in poor or rarely middle class areas. You will never see them in rich neighborhoods because they aren't trying to rid the world of the white dominated elite upper class rich folks.
Planned Parenthood was established for the sake of ridding the world of the 'undesirable'. They are anti-semitic, racist, sex-offender loving and anything else that will allow their agenda of a eugenist dominated society to take hold, all in the name of 'protecting' women.
They lie to young girls and women on a regular basis. They tell them abortion is the best option for them, when really all they care about is getting those nice green sheets of paper into their possession. They don't report crimes, ranging from sexual assault to statutory rape. It means more to them to bring in money than to get sex offenders off the street or help vulnerable young women and girls to make informed decisions.
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Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2009 10:34 am
smezi_naraqu yeah but saying that people could argue about it harming the mother what would u say to someone like that? That is a just reason because it is self-defense. Is one life really worth the other? N matter what the decision is, someone is going to die. But it is the ONLY reasonable argument that can be made from your opponents. Social life doesn't apply, some one's reputation or education doesn't apply. Is one life worth the other? Maybe, maybe not, but an education is not worth some one's life a reputation is not worth someone's life.
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Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2009 8:52 am
Abortion is the killing of a baby in the womb.....enough said.
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Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2009 8:54 am
Alrecia smezi_naraqu yeah but saying that people could argue about it harming the mother what would u say to someone like that? That is a just reason because it is self-defense. Is one life really worth the other? N matter what the decision is, someone is going to die. But it is the ONLY reasonable argument that can be made from your opponents. Social life doesn't apply, some one's reputation or education doesn't apply. Is one life worth the other? Maybe, maybe not, but an education is not worth some one's life a reputation is not worth someone's life. Um......i dont get what your saying here are you agreeing that its self defense ?? sorry im a little slow. lol
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Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2009 3:59 pm
CottageCheeseCullen Alrecia smezi_naraqu yeah but saying that people could argue about it harming the mother what would u say to someone like that? That is a just reason because it is self-defense. Is one life really worth the other? N matter what the decision is, someone is going to die. But it is the ONLY reasonable argument that can be made from your opponents. Social life doesn't apply, some one's reputation or education doesn't apply. Is one life worth the other? Maybe, maybe not, but an education is not worth some one's life a reputation is not worth someone's life. Um......i dont get what your saying here are you agreeing that its self defense ?? sorry im a little slow. lol I believe she's saying that abortion is self defense when you are actually threatened by the pregnancy and childbirth. If the woman will die in the process, it becomes the only line of self defense and essentially one life is not more valuable than the other so why should she be unable to defend her life?
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