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Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:08 pm
So, right now i'm shooting with my kit lens (18-55mm) lens, and I am thinking about buying a new one (scratch that, i have to buy a new one...)
I fount a Canon Zoom Telephoto EF 75-300mm f/4.0-5.6 III Autofocus Lens for $159.95 online Which is just within my budget...(this is from a place that I trust, and I know they take care shipping their stuff)(I need a lens that can shoot between 85-100mm for portraits) I know there are better lenses out there, but I just don't have the money for them. The reviews on the sight were good, so im really considering it.
I need it soon, so if anyone would give me some advice, maybe if they know of a better lens I could use that would be still within my budget (about $200, I still need to buy my text books)
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Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 8:02 pm
I have that lens. It's alright. It's not the sharpest lens around and it does have some problems with chromatic and sidel aberrations however, for the price it's not like you should expect much. The lens does move if you focus, like the 18 - 55, so that can be a problem if you're using a CLP however if you're shooting portraits usually it's not THAT big of a concern, just be aware of that. It's a quite noisy lens, so if you want something that's quiet like a lens with USM, you definitely won't find it with this. This is about as loud as your 18 - 55. So if it's not a problem with that lens, it shouldn't be with this one.
Now there is a USM model, same 75 - 300 4 - 5.6 but just with usm although it's like... $40 extra I believe. It's like right under $200 if I remember correctly. But IMHO, it isn't worth it.
However if you're looking for a telephoto lens under $200 unless you buy something from someone (As in used) or have some sort of a special deal or offer you won't find anything. That's just how it is really. Because anything around that price range is, in all honesty, going to give you the same results.
At least in regards to telephotos.
You can buy a 50mm 1.8 lens for $100 and it's lovely although working with that shallow dof can be tricky at times. But it's not like you cant shoot at 5.6, but with 50mm at that dof it's really unflattering. But it's something else to consider and it's a very sharp lens as well.
And really, that's all you have in that range as far as cannon lenses go. You can try getting some lenses from other makers like tamron, sigma, etc. But they won't offer you much.
Pretty much you're stuck with that in THAT price range but it isn't a bad lens.
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Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 9:24 pm
thank you for your advice! I know that $200 is not enough for a really god lens, but really, that's all i can afford at the moment. I need a lens that will do well with portraits, It doesn't matter how loud t is, most of what I will do will not e candid.
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Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 9:28 pm
Kokihi thank you for your advice! I know that $200 is not enough for a really god lens, but really, that's all i can afford at the moment. I need a lens that will do well with portraits, It doesn't matter how loud t is, most of what I will do will not e candid. I know, I'm just trying to give you as much info as I could. But it's a good lens, if you're doing portraits probably the best thing you can do for that lens in particular is not to stick around the 100mm range, go past 200 or hit 300. Because f4 or 5.6 isn't very flattering but when you start zooming in you'll end up getting better results as far as the background is concerned. I abused my 75 - 300 for a very long time and it's got chips, cracks, scratches and everything all over it, it's a good lens - for the price. biggrin
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Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 10:09 pm
Why would you need over 85mm for portraits? As cilayin said, the best portrait lens you could get for cheap is the 50mm f/1.8.
But if this is gonna be your second lens, then I agree that you can't beat that price.
Personally, I think the Canon EF-S 55-250mm f/4-5.6 IS is a good combo with the 18-55mm kit lens. smile
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Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 12:34 am
Kineyas Why would you need over 85mm for portraits? As cilayin said, the best portrait lens you could get for cheap is the 50mm f/1.8. But if this is gonna be your second lens, then I agree that you can't beat that price. Personally, I think the Canon EF-S 55-250mm f/4-5.6 IS is a good combo with the 18-55mm kit lens. smile You can't seriously be asking why someone would need a focal length over 85mm for portraits, can you? Because that's kind of a ridiculous question if you're serious.
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Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 12:07 pm
meh, depends on your taste. Thank you both for your input!
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Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 1:37 pm
Having a focal length of 200, 300 or even more is great for portraits. It might not always be practical but it is great. If you take a picture of 18mm and are close up to the person the background will look smaller, however if you move further back and compose the image so the subject is still like how you took it at 18mm but were at 100+mm you'll notice that the background actually becomes larger and more blurred.
So shooting at 300mm even if you're not shooting at 2.8 or whatever because you get a very nice background.
As opposed to most people who shoot wide angles and don't know how to do that properly and just get a crap load of awful photos.
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Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 9:20 pm
That's interesting cil. And yeah my question was serious lol. I'm like a kid when it comes to photography. I'm very curious why people do such and such.
My longest lens is only 250mm but I haven't used it to do any portraits. Unless you call a photo of the moon it's own portrait but I digress.
Most of my portraits are done with my 50mm. I'm open to new things though so I'll look into using longer focal length.
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Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2009 9:00 am
Kineyas That's interesting cil. And yeah my question was serious lol. I'm like a kid when it comes to photography. I'm very curious why people do such and such. My longest lens is only 250mm but I haven't used it to do any portraits. Unless you call a photo of the moon it's own portrait but I digress. Most of my portraits are done with my 50mm. I'm open to new things though so I'll look into using longer focal length. 50mm is fine for portraits as long as you don't suck with it. I mean if you take a portrait of someone at 50mm or wider you're going to end up getting a lot of crap in the background so unless you're shooting at 2.8 or wider you're going to get a pretty bad portrait. At least in the traditional sense of a "portrait". If you're doing more of an environmental shot, then that's fine but if you're doing like a head and shoulder... Yuck. lol
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Posted: Fri Jul 24, 2009 5:20 am
The traditional and most complimentary focal lengths (for portraits)are between 50 and 90 mm. The compression ratios allow the face to look most natural in that range 4laugh
As for, "you're going to end up getting a lot of crap in the background" Walk closer to your subject, and yes, do use a small aperture for portraiture. Also remember to get the eyes in focus, if nothing else.
You should looks and see if anything with image stabilization is available in your price range if you're not shooting with a tripod. My Sony has it in the body and I absolutely love it!
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Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2009 5:02 pm
I already looked, there wasn't anything, but thats ok, because i do have a tripod that I shoot with.
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Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 9:05 am
Well if you're tripoddin' it's no worries then.
I got my Sony because of the stabilized body ^_^ because I hand hold all the time! I might be getting a new carbon fiber tripod for 120 off Craig's List in the next couple days!
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Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2009 9:35 pm
I think you should really get it.
but be sure to buy the warranty just in case!
you dont need a great one right now ... just a nice good one.
if you do become a pro (which would be amazing and I don't dobt that maybe you will) then you should keep saving but still get this one and when you get enough money then you will have BOTH of them.
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Posted: Sun Aug 09, 2009 5:24 pm
blaugh heart blaugh
thanks
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