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Upcoming Emblem System Changes - Official Thread

If anybody is too lazy to click the link, here is a small synopsis:
"In the next major content patch we will be making changes to the current emblem currency system to give players more reason to run the content we have released already in Wrath of the Lich King and provide a smoother experience for players looking to reach the higher tier content. "

"...To further encourage players to participate in more 5 player dungeons, the Coliseum’s 5 player instance will drop Champion’s Seals.

"...Any dungeons that drop Emblems of Heroism or Valor, such as Naxxramas or Heroic Halls of Stone, will now drop Emblems of Conquest instead."

..."The heroic dungeon daily quest will now reward two Emblems of Triumph and the normal daily dungeon quest will reward one Emblem of Triumph. "

..."The drakes used in The Oculus for the majority of this dungeon will now scale with a character’s gear like the vehicles in Ulduar."

"The end goal of all these changes is help minimize the growing gear gap that is causing a lot of frustration for players trying to experience the latest content as well as encourage players to continue running the dungeons that were previously released. "




I know that this is still subject to change, but if it actually did go into effect, it would kind of burn me up. It looks as if the people that had to go and actually learn the fights in Ulduar have wasted their time, while people who have just hit 80 could just run a couple of Heroics and magically have Ulduar-Level gear. I would really like to hear some other peoples thoughts on this subject though.

Did you not play BC? BC badge system was MUCH better IMO. There were no different rankings of badges. There was 1 badge you got from every instance, and every time they brought out upgraded badge loot it was bought with the same badges. All Blizz are doing now is fixing a broken system where people can pretty much skip 5 man content, because as it is now, running heroics is near pointless.


And as a very wise woman has already said... Raiding isnt only for gear.

Looks like all the n00bs who can't get gear and can't play their toon well will be getting geared to be on "equal" terms with the people who have been in there longer. Wow, raiding will become a sad thing to watch.


Good thing I have a guild to raid with.

Not only that but the Heroic Dungeon Daily will be giving two of the new Emblem of Triumph (the reg dungeon daily giving a single one instead)

at least someone is talking sense here.

I don't understand the QQ about this at all. Anyone with really good gear isn't wearing much badge gear anyway. What do they care? The system right now was broken anyway. Back in BC we had 1 badge system with fairly decent stuff for after Kara to get you rolling into SSC/TK. Now we have badge gear thats mostly crap except for the two tier pieces.

Ohhh nooo I don't want the noobies to wear the same shitty gear as me. /sarcasm

Personally, I will like this change quite a bit when it hits live. My main character runs Ulduar and all that, getting all the cutting edge gear and collecting the emblems for more gear. However, I do like to play my shaman and I can't get into any runs at the higher gear levels, meaning I'm stuck at PuGing Naxx 10 on her and that gear isn't really that good to begin with.

When I can get the same gear that I've been getting on the paladin on the shaman, that will be really nice so that I can do things on her without feeling like a clown or that I'm being carried by the rest of the group.

As for people who suck at the game, I don't really mind they'll be able to get the similar gear to mine, they'd still have to run hardmodes for all the really good loot and so the gear difference between a hard core raider and a casual player will still be there, it just won't be as pronounced.

Also, this is going to be helpful for guilds that want to bring in new people, but don't want to spend nights farming Naxx 25 for gear for the new person so they can start doing Ulduar or the newest raid coming out in the next patch.

TL;DR I support this change.

for alts, yes. for noobs, no.

There should be an 'account bound' achievement set (such as having cleared ulduar) that then unlocks the higher-quality emblem drops for your other toons, perhaps.

Although, really, this change is nothing different to what was happening the entire way through TBC, with the single badge type and the new vendor installments as it progressed. I feel it's just a big shame that tier is going to be available by these means - as I believe tier should be regarded as a status symbol of your progress; as it has been at all other times throughout the game so far. Rather than just a 'i cn farm heroixx dis much, hurhur!'

It's sad, really. ;[