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Posted: Wed May 13, 2009 7:29 pm
Any time an issue needs to be discussed that's taking place in Hueco Mundo involving your character, a battle, or anything else. Feel free to post here to discuss it rather than in the rp thread.
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Posted: Wed May 13, 2009 7:47 pm
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Posted: Wed May 13, 2009 8:18 pm
You already know what's up. Zeke should be here anytime soon as well. Anyways, like we all know everyone wants their character to survive and when in a fight. However a valid explanation for how they counter or get out of situations in conjunction to the attack is required. As for you Petross, I'm gonna explain a couple of mistakes you did in the battle. Even though I don't see why I have to because you know yourself that you godded or else you wouldn't have posted in ooc that you're expected p.m's saying that you're doing it. Right then and there you were aware of what you were doing.
Petross number one, Kaen used Garganta which is an arrancar technique. True they gain access to some hollow powers, but some people mistaken this for all their powers. As stated in archives for the vizard faction, some have access to cero. Beyond that it's power augmentation and a few newer techniques that we gave to them. It hasn't been proved in the show that their capable of using Garganta yet. So basically we've established that Kaen didn't escape.
The second thing is that to say he was drunk, he was sure focused more than a sober person judging on how he reacted to things happening around him. Drunk people's perceptions diminish during the process if you didn't know. Also Petross you confirmed your character being drunk and then tried to change it to "tipsy" later on in the fight to save him. Another thing there was no way you could say "before" Now about you knowing Allegretto was coming to grab him before anything happened, I'm not gonna even go into any of that because we both know it's impossible for you to complete 100 different large tasks all in one post with gaps set in between.
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Posted: Wed May 13, 2009 8:22 pm
And what exactly is the gap set inbetween posts? Because quite frankly, no one knows, which leads to like millions of 'mistakes' or inconsistency between what can happen and what cannot happen in a span of time. =/
Really, unless you set a rule on this, the interval in posts can be any time.
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Posted: Wed May 13, 2009 8:36 pm
I believe you're talking about an entirely different gap than what I'm talking about if I'm not mistaken. But seeming that this battle involves me, Somaruno, and Petross, this discussion should be as well. If we need you we'll call on you, furthermore you should continue rping seeing how it's between us. Not to be rude or anything.
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Posted: Wed May 13, 2009 8:45 pm
Excuse me, but incidents like these happen almost through all battles, not just your own. So don't think this involves just you, Soma, and Petross. This is something that happens in general, so you might as well discuss it with the other members of the guild.
And if you seem insistent upon just dealing with it as it comes instead of as a whole, then do what you wish, I suppose. It's your time in the end. But honestly, I think these kinds of things need to be cleared up as a whole, not just through phases.
Not to be rude or anything.
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Posted: Wed May 13, 2009 9:19 pm
In any case, whichever incident it happens in, the ones involved should solve it. Further opinions are always asked for when needed, but then again we already have those. I just didn't intend for this to be one big guild discussion just over this one battle. So yes, whether or not incident occurs commonly, rarely, or generally sometimes, it's mainly solved by the ones involved in it.
Now if I should continue as I wish like you stated, then your post was contradicted by that statement and it wouldn't have been required. Personally I won't summon up the entire guild into a discussion for every predicament we come across in battle. I'll just make reference to a similar experience like this prior to the incident. Like I said the first time, I wasn't trying to be rude with you or anything. I just wanted to be quick of things to avoid a large open guild debate as if someone were running for president. I don't intend to drag things along or entertain the situation, I clear it up on the spot and be done with it. That's just how we do it.
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Posted: Wed May 13, 2009 9:28 pm
It flew over your head. I'm not talking about bringing the whole guild into one battle, I'm talking about bringing the whole guild as a general discussion over the general rules of combat, because it's always the overall stuff that we have confliction about. It's never the little stuff you guys argue about, it's always knit-picking at the bigger ordinances. No one really cares about the tiniest details since most of the time, it's overlooked anyway.
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Posted: Wed May 13, 2009 9:34 pm
I have read it and from what i remember there might already be a rule against doing things outside of your characters limits in this guild. Its easy to dodge attacks that come from a distance and travel at speeds that are dodgable. Point blank attacks that are directed at a specific area and will land on there target reguardless are not easy to dodge no matter how you look at it. Petross's legs were grabbed to know that Kazei's character was under him would be to much to say your injured on a high level and then your drunk ontop of that. Also to know where Renkin was going when your head was down when Renkin disappeared is also something that can't be done. Your eyes were taken off of him for that very moment which cause you to lose your focus on both Renkin and Allegretto.
Im not saying you couldn't win but, this was a battle that was lost when you didn't start out fighting with everything you've got. Hueco Mundo is like a slaughter house. When your there you have to fight with everything you've got. You have to always watch your back and you have to make sure you use your full power in battles. Anything less will get you killed everytime.
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Posted: Wed May 13, 2009 9:38 pm
Well that's the thing. You classify us as "you guys". And by "no one" I assume you're speaking for yourself. I can't speak for everyone, or those guys that you're talking about. If you're talking about the crew then it still goes the same as them. Each of them are their own man and woman, so everyone has different opinions on different things. We just come together on a common an organized agreement. You won't find in a guild where every single thing is pointed out and covered in the rules on the guild main page. So sometimes they have to be pinpointed and addressed directly, that is before it spreads and every believes they can do the same thing. Besides, I don't overlook detail. If I did then it's probably by accident. Even the tiniest details can build up into a bigger problem later.
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Posted: Wed May 13, 2009 9:44 pm
That's a conceited statement for you to claim. I note 'you guys' because if you haven't noticed, I haven't really participated in battle. And I doubt the battle of Central 46 even counted since I only made a single battle-worthy (Even that is questionable) there, and the entire stage of the battle was really stupid to begin with.
I'm not talking about every single rule. That's no fun for one thing. But a general guideline would be nice, because in a single post, I could post up over a dozen if not more things going on if I really wanted to, but obviously I don't do that since that's unrealistic. Remember, you're dealing with people of almost all literacy level here, and going over just it directly doesn't work.
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Posted: Wed May 13, 2009 10:06 pm
Conceited is your opinion, besides I don't make claims. Either I do it, or I don't. It's just that simple. I take it you're saying by 'stupid', you're referring to your own little skirmish with Aguamarina against that Lieutenant back in Central 46. Besides, you don't stage or plan battles. They tend to just break out or happen.
Well there is a general guidelines that Tanimeso mainly worked on. So if you have any suggestions regarding them, you should speak with him. He's one of the main ones who cracks down on the rules.
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Posted: Thu May 14, 2009 6:20 am
...... Fine, I could argue, but when several people are against you, it's best just to avoid a fight. *Sigh* Fine. he's dead you killed him, his body has been incinerated. There, now everybody but me is happy.
On a side note, my Arrancar character, Validus, I need somebody to kill him. I don't care who, I don't care why. I want to fight with him, possibly kick a**, and then just die through some mistake I'll make.
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Posted: Thu May 14, 2009 2:24 pm
You assume, therefore you made a claim. Do or die, that's what you have done, Kazei, right when you said 'assume' that's when you made a claim, whether you are right or you are not. Best keep that in mind.
And by stupid, I mean, the entire scenario of Central 46, not just the minor skirmish (if that's what you would even call it. rolleyes ) between Aguamarina and the other people. I mean, the whole plot of that battle was essentially 'Unwinnable' for the Shinigami. Regardless if it was a necessary part in whatever plot it is, if the situation turns that direction, that's just lame. No situation in a roleplay should become one-sided, because then there is very little reason to roleplay that scene then.
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Posted: Thu May 14, 2009 6:09 pm
Yes I assume, meaning "I'm not so sure" or "I could be mistaken." The word 'Claim' means I'm keeping or retaining it as a fact, which I didn't. Those are two completely different words with two different meanings. Perhaps you should keep add that to your log of advice as well. As for your central 46 topic addiction, I'm well aware that two other mods have spoken to you about it already.
On the note of the central 46 incident, I leave you to yourself with that one. As for your insults, they don't tell you anything about me or the incident, they only tell me about yourself. If there's anything I can help with, p.m me. If it's to argue, do something constructive with your time. Further more have nice day ma'm.
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