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 Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 12:31 am
I couldn't remember which other forum this was mentioned in but someone mentioned that in Pale Fallen Angel Parts One and Two, they mention D's age, sort of. Well I was waiting for Parts Three and Four to come out (on top of the money to get them) before reading One and Two, well I have gotten the second half and am reading the first half. Well on page 144 in Pale Fallen Angel Parts One and Two, the computer mentions that D's dad had been there five thousand years prior and that he had talked about D. So at a minimum, D's age is at least five thousand years.
So, here's a question. How old could D be?
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Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 2:43 am
Thats right. D is at least 5,000 years old. But there is much he doesn't remember. In volume 13 we will see that D needs the aid of someone to help him remember something of grave importance. Either he purposely buried some memories or he just forgot because it's been 5,000 years.. gonk
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Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 1:45 pm
well he had to be born before 1898 thats when the book dracula took place and its the year i think over 10,000 years old
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Posted: Fri May 01, 2009 1:46 am
I heard many compare Mina Harker to D's mother someone by the name of Mina the Fair. Mina Harker the bride of Dracula could be D's mother. If thats the case then D would have been born around the Victorian Era in England. The same time Dracula had preyed upon Mina and her friend Lucy. That was around 1885 in Whitby, Yorkshire coast? But that's only if Dracula is indeed D's father. 
"But, strangest of all, the very instant the shore was touched, an immense dog sprang up on deck from below ... and running forward, jumped from the bow on to the sand. Making straight for the steep cliff, where the churchyard hangs over the laneway to the East Pier ... it disappeared in the darkness."
 The ruins of Whitby Abbey
Stoker based the idea of the ghost ship on a Russian schooner called ‘Demitrius’, which was shipwrecked off the Whitby coast in 1885, about five years before Stoker visited the town. It is still a popular pastime amongst young children visiting the town to wander around the small graveyard and try to guess which of the anonymous tombs, their inscriptions eaten away by driving winds and salt air, belongs to Dracula and his brides. Thirteen hundred years after Whitby Abbey was first built, people still walk the centuries-old streets and climb the 199 stone steps that lead up to the church of St. Mary that still stands in the shadow of her gothic Abbey. Only today they do so in search of vampires and other tormented souls whose ghosts may wander amidst the gothic ruins of the Abbey, ruins that provided Stoker with so much inspiration during his stay in the town. One way to reach the abbey is via the tortuous 199 steps
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Posted: Fri May 01, 2009 12:18 pm
I just got the Pale Fallen Angels Part One and Two and started reading it recently. I am only about a hundred pages in, so I haven't read that part yet. I am looking forward to that part though.
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Posted: Fri May 01, 2009 1:54 pm
~ Anime Betty ~ I heard many compare Mina Harker to D's mother someone by the name of Mina the Fair. Mina Harker the bride of Dracula could be D's mother. If thats the case then D would have been born around the Victorian Era in England. The same time Dracula had preyed upon Mina and her friend Lucy. That was around 1885 in Whitby, Yorkshire coast? But that's only if Dracula is indeed D's father.
"But, strangest of all, the very instant the shore was touched, an immense dog sprang up on deck from below ... and running forward, jumped from the bow on to the sand. Making straight for the steep cliff, where the churchyard hangs over the laneway to the East Pier ... it disappeared in the darkness."
The ruins of Whitby Abbey
Stoker based the idea of the ghost ship on a Russian schooner called ‘Demitrius’, which was shipwrecked off the Whitby coast in 1885, about five years before Stoker visited the town. It is still a popular pastime amongst young children visiting the town to wander around the small graveyard and try to guess which of the anonymous tombs, their inscriptions eaten away by driving winds and salt air, belongs to Dracula and his brides. Thirteen hundred years after Whitby Abbey was first built, people still walk the centuries-old streets and climb the 199 stone steps that lead up to the church of St. Mary that still stands in the shadow of her gothic Abbey. Only today they do so in search of vampires and other tormented souls whose ghosts may wander amidst the gothic ruins of the Abbey, ruins that provided Stoker with so much inspiration during his stay in the town. One way to reach the abbey is via the tortuous 199 steps ofcaourse dracula is D's dad. in bloodlust D's hand refered D's dad as the vampire king which dracula is often refered as and he also said that D's dad killed carmilla well in a chapter of dracula that was removed except for atleast the first editions johnothan was visited by the spirit of a vampire named carmilla who warns him of dracula and bram stoker wrote in his diary that carmilla was based of that romanian countess who killed alot of people and supposedly bathed in the blood of her victims which he thought was a good character in his story because it was supposedly that vlad dracula dined with his victims blood dropping on his food thus dracula was the perfect choice for his book
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Posted: Fri May 01, 2009 10:14 pm
vampiredracula911 ~ Anime Betty ~ I heard many compare Mina Harker to D's mother someone by the name of Mina the Fair. Mina Harker the bride of Dracula could be D's mother. If thats the case then D would have been born around the Victorian Era in England. The same time Dracula had preyed upon Mina and her friend Lucy. That was around 1885 in Whitby, Yorkshire coast? But that's only if Dracula is indeed D's father.
"But, strangest of all, the very instant the shore was touched, an immense dog sprang up on deck from below ... and running forward, jumped from the bow on to the sand. Making straight for the steep cliff, where the churchyard hangs over the laneway to the East Pier ... it disappeared in the darkness."
The ruins of Whitby Abbey
Stoker based the idea of the ghost ship on a Russian schooner called ‘Demitrius’, which was shipwrecked off the Whitby coast in 1885, about five years before Stoker visited the town. It is still a popular pastime amongst young children visiting the town to wander around the small graveyard and try to guess which of the anonymous tombs, their inscriptions eaten away by driving winds and salt air, belongs to Dracula and his brides. Thirteen hundred years after Whitby Abbey was first built, people still walk the centuries-old streets and climb the 199 stone steps that lead up to the church of St. Mary that still stands in the shadow of her gothic Abbey. Only today they do so in search of vampires and other tormented souls whose ghosts may wander amidst the gothic ruins of the Abbey, ruins that provided Stoker with so much inspiration during his stay in the town. One way to reach the abbey is via the tortuous 199 steps ofcaourse dracula is D's dad. in bloodlust D's hand refered D's dad as the vampire king which dracula is often refered as and he also said that D's dad killed carmilla well in a chapter of dracula that was removed except for atleast the first editions johnothan was visited by the spirit of a vampire named carmilla who warns him of dracula and bram stoker wrote in his diary that carmilla was based of that romanian countess who killed alot of people and supposedly bathed in the blood of her victims which he thought was a good character in his story because it was supposedly that vlad dracula dined with his victims blood dropping on his food thus dracula was the perfect choice for his book
You're talking about Countess Elizabeth Báthory (died???: August 21, 1614) ; remembered as the Bloody Lady of Čachtice the Blood Countess and Countess Dracula. Elizabeth Bathory, became known as the Bloody Countess for her obsession with blood. She was convinced that blood would give her beauty. She murdered hundreds of maidens only for their blood, she drunk, bathed and showered in the blood of the young maidens. Many girls were brought to her and slaughtered with the help of her lieutenants. The body count is estimated at 50 to 100 women. ninja
But isn't the name Carmilla; Mina Murray Harkers's middle name? Did you see the movie: The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen?
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Posted: Fri May 01, 2009 10:30 pm
If it wasn't for Van Hellsing, Mina Harker wouldn't have lived long enough to birth any children from Dracula or Jonathan Harker her husband. Van Hellsing's administered blood transfusion kept Mina mortal long enough to have children. Otherwise she would have died the next day after Dracula drank her blood. Wouldn't it be funny to find out that Van Hellsing was D's Godfather? Maybe that's where D gets the "Hunter" persona from? Even though Mina was already turning into a Vampire, it's not until her mortal body expires that she would become a full vampire. After Dracula fled England and she remained with Jonathan she married him and who knows if she was able to live a normal life as a Mother to any of his children. Who knows maybe Jonathan Harker was D's step father for a time? She could have become pregnant from Dracula that night they did have sex as well as do the blood transfer. ninja
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Posted: Sat May 02, 2009 6:47 am
it all depends on versions of dracula the only spoof off dracula i could see that followed the book was the batman vs. dracula when he refers to how different transilvania has changed.at the end of dracula van helsing opens draculas coffin and stakes him in transilvania
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Posted: Sat May 02, 2009 6:53 am
~ Anime Betty ~ If it wasn't for Van Hellsing, Mina Harker wouldn't have lived long enough to birth any children from Dracula or Jonathan Harker her husband. Van Hellsing's administered blood transfusion kept Mina mortal long enough to have children. Otherwise she would have died the next day after Dracula drank her blood. Wouldn't it be funny to find out that Van Hellsing was D's Godfather? Maybe that's where D gets the "Hunter" persona from? Even though Mina was already turning into a Vampire, it's not until her mortal body expires that she would become a full vampire. After Dracula fled England and she remained with Jonathan she married him and who knows if she was able to live a normal life as a Mother to any of his children. Who knows maybe Jonathan Harker was D's step father for a time? She could have become pregnant from Dracula that night they did have sex as well as do the blood transfer. ninja maybe jonothan got jealous of dracula and planted that story to bram stoker because she dumped him for dracula and he called van helsing to do it. there are many unproven theories but all i can say if mina harker was D's mother then that teory would make the most sense because in bloodlust she said that she loved dracula even though it was an illusion created by carmilla its strictly against vampire pride to lie to another vampire even a dunpeal and at the end of dracula mina writes a note saying that johnothan and her have a child around nine month after dracula so its a 50% chance that child was D
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Posted: Sat May 02, 2009 6:43 pm
vampiredracula911 ~ Anime Betty ~ If it wasn't for Van Hellsing, Mina Harker wouldn't have lived long enough to birth any children from Dracula or Jonathan Harker her husband. Van Hellsing's administered blood transfusion kept Mina mortal long enough to have children. Otherwise she would have died the next day after Dracula drank her blood. Wouldn't it be funny to find out that Van Hellsing was D's Godfather? Maybe that's where D gets the "Hunter" persona from? Even though Mina was already turning into a Vampire, it's not until her mortal body expires that she would become a full vampire. After Dracula fled England and she remained with Jonathan she married him and who knows if she was able to live a normal life as a Mother to any of his children. Who knows maybe Jonathan Harker was D's step father for a time? She could have become pregnant from Dracula that night they did have sex as well as do the blood transfer. ninja maybe jonothan got jealous of dracula and planted that story to bram stoker because she dumped him for dracula and he called van helsing to do it. there are many unproven theories but all i can say if mina harker was D's mother then that teory would make the most sense because in bloodlust she said that she loved dracula even though it was an illusion created by carmilla its strictly against vampire pride to lie to another vampire even a dunpeal and at the end of dracula mina writes a note saying that johnothan and her have a child around nine month after dracula so its a 50% chance that child was D
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Posted: Mon May 04, 2009 1:06 pm
Hey since we are on the subject of Dracula and Van Helsing, I have a book that some of you may find interesting. It is called The Many Faces of Van Helsing and it has a collection of short stories by various authers. They have futuristic and other settings for staories about the vampire hunter. They were really good. It gives you a lot of different perspectives on his character and he is made out to be everything from a curageous hero to a psychopath. It is really good for anyone who wants to go a litlle more in depth with him. It has been a while since I read it but in a few stories I beleive Mina is mentioned.
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Posted: Mon May 04, 2009 4:39 pm
@devil hunter girl: Is there anything in the book; "The Many Faces of Van Hellsing" that mentions a baby born after the Dracula incident to Mina Harker?
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Posted: Tue May 05, 2009 3:29 pm
I would assume pretty old but that's just me.
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Posted: Wed May 26, 2010 8:24 pm
I know this post is a bit old, but I just wanted to say that well, we do know that there was a baby born to Johnathan and Mina Harker at the end of Dracula. Quincey is his name if I remember correctly, named after the poor dude who got killed >.>
I always figured that if indeed D's mother was Mina, it was a reincarnation of sorts. I mean, she can't give birth to a normal baby and then have Dracula's baby, it's a little bassackwards...
Again this is with the theory that she is even the same person and Dracula is D's father (which I think is pretty solidified, and if it's not then Imma be pissed that he lead us on like that XD) and that it was based on the book Dracula. And considering he's a Dhampir, a vampire Mina couldn't give birth to him unless we are going the Blade way where she was preggers, got bit and then gave birth to D, but I'm positive Dracula purposefully created the guy.
And now I just confused myself o.O
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