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 Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2009 1:38 pm
why do people think this? its a huge pet peeve of mine and people use it as an excuse to keep bettas in small homes they can hardly turn around in. some people even believe a betta will stress out and die in anything over 1gal
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Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2009 4:12 pm
i guess because they CAN live in puddles
they CAN also move from puddle to puddle (people dont think they have jumping skills because of the fins but spledens can jump REAL well) but they do live in bigger areas of water naturally...they live in rice paddies not rice puddles XD
and what? stressed in anything over 1 gallon? i have a ton in 55 gallons XD they LOVE IT! they are much more active and fun when they have more space :3 and they swim/sleep on the bottom...i have read anything too deep is bad but i dont see how >_O
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Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2009 8:04 am
i dont know if i would say they can live in them, i think its more of a they can survve for short periods of time.
my new guy seems really happy in his 10gal with the other fish, i feel kind of bad for keeping the other betta in just a 2gal. he will be upgraded by the end of summer
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Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2009 1:15 pm
I never keep my betas in anything less then one gallon. I think i'm going to get another Betta soon. I miss having a fish tank X3.
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Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 6:00 am
there you go
survive
thats the best word you could use!
they CAN SURVIVE in puddles and so people think they can LIVE in dirty puddles
i admit...i have mine in those little betta tanks sweatdrop ...but i am ocd with cleaning the containers and doing water changes (like 2 times a week) and i have had some of the ones i own right now for over 6 years : O and they usually live for just 3 years because they are already at least 2 when you buy them.
the oldest one i have had for 7 years (hes looking a little bleh which is understandable i guess....he must be REALLY old but hes still "kicking") and my newest one i've had for maybe a few months.
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Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 7:08 am
erm if we're talking about real beta fish *sorry im new* Then they can survive in a small tank. I had one that lived for over 2 years in just a small little pentagon tank *which was really cute* and she seemed fine.
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Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 1:10 pm
yes real betta
this guild is about fish keeping ^^
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Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 11:18 am
Chiyamaka erm if we're talking about real beta fish *sorry im new* Then they can survive in a small tank. I had one that lived for over 2 years in just a small little pentagon tank *which was really cute* and she seemed fine. is there another type of betta fish? i just dont agree with keeping them in anything under 1gal. i dont want to get into a big argument about it, but i dont think its fair to the fish, you wouldnt keep a puppy in just a bathroom even if you kept it sparkly clean would you?
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Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 9:33 pm
I had my Betta in a 2.5 when I first got him, and even that didn't work out that well. He got Columnaris, I blame poor water quality. Then the stupid tank broke and I had to keep him in a BOWL. Even the bowl was bigger than most of the things sold for bettas, I think it was 1 gallon (they were marketing it for GOLDFISH!) Now I have him in a heated, filtered/cycled 10 gallon tank, and he is a different fish. Much more active, and not as grumpy either (he used to flare if you LOOKED at him, now he is much more chill....it's not that he doesn't have energy, as I said he's moving around more, but he seems less....insecure) I don't believe 10 gallons is "too much space" and I also don't believe they like living in tiny containers....when I had him in the bowl I had to put him in a little cup to clean the bowl and he HATED it. He would try to jump out over and over!(he didn't try and jump out of the bowl or his tank, just the little cup)
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Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2009 12:31 am
If my food and water are provided I can survive my entire life in a room that's not even big enough for me to stand up or turn around in, but that's no life for a human and it's certainly no life for a Betta either. Not to mention that they are TROPICAL fish. Tropical loves heat to thrive.
I raised a young female betta in a 20g. In 3 months time, her fins were as long and beautiful as any males. I hate it when people keep them in small containers, poor things. I have a Betta in a 2.5 that's filtered and temp controlled with proper water changes and stuff in there to keep her occupied. It's also planted. I could do better on a bigger budget, but it's certainly better than a cup or those "betta keepers". Most people agree that with Bettas, min 2g is a good rule.
Don't even get me started on goldfish bowls. =(
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Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2009 12:38 am
-Vanilla- eXe If my food and water are provided I can survive my entire life in a room that's not even big enough for me to stand up or turn around in, but that's no life for a human and it's certainly no life for a Betta either. Not to mention that they are TROPICAL fish. Tropical loves heat to thrive.
I raised a young female betta in a 20g. In 3 months time, her fins were as long and beautiful as any males. I hate it when people keep them in small containers, poor things. I have a Betta in a 2.5 that's filtered and temp controlled with proper water changes and stuff in there to keep her occupied. It's also planted. I could do better on a bigger budget, but it's certainly better than a cup or those "betta keepers". Most people agree that with Bettas, min 2g is a good rule.
Don't even get me started on goldfish bowls. =( I'm just curious, how do you heat the 2.5? I had always heard they can be dangerous to heat with traditional heaters (can get too hot very easily) I've only been told or read this though, I don't know from personal knowledge. (I've also been told it's "impossible" to cycle anything under 10 gallons, but I don't know if it's true or not)
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Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2009 12:43 am
25 watt or less heaters. As long as it has a built in thermostat there's no more danger than with heating any other tank. And it's def. possible to cycle less than 10g. Most people just make generalizations like that so that newbies don't go trying to take on more than they can handle. I got a 29g for my birthday and when we were checking out the lady at the register said "They say you should NEVER get a tank smaller than 29g. " I'm sure that's something she heard because bigger tanks are easier to keep stable. Anyway, my 5.5g and 2.5g are indeed cycled. If the 5 wasn't my puffers would be long dead.
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Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2009 12:29 pm
im glad my room is really toasty. i have alot of reptiles in my room so my room is usually in the lower 80s, plus my betta tanks are right by the reptile heating so my tanks stay in the upper 70s
ive kept bettas in bowls before, not small bowls, i mean those big 2gal bowls. my bettas seemed healthy enough in those. granted those bettas died, but their deaths had nothing to do with the bowls
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Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2009 2:12 pm
Bettas can jump! I share a betta with my room mate and his name is Chronos because he's an angry fish and she swore he wanted to kill every other betta in the little bowls next to him when we bought him. We keep him in a 1 gal bowl, I still think it's way too small for him but it's much better than the ones I've seen where the "tank" is just as big as he is-please I'll stick the person who made that in a cardboard box and he/she can tell me how well they like it.
Chronos will jump for nearly anything you way up in the morning and he sees you move from the bed he's already up against the glass. Pick up the fish food and he follows your hand and goes absolutely nuts! And when you taunt him by holding the pellet over the bowl he jumps. Other than feeding time he's rather chill resting on the bottom or swimming around the bowl.
the only time he's in a small pint sized container (like for wanton soup) is when we have to clean his bowl but he's usually in there for about a day or so before we move him back to his bowl which then he explores and swims around-much more content.
As for anything bigger than one gal stressing a fish out, those people need to do some research. Most fish in the wild live in large waters, ponds I considers a large small water body. But there are fish that have evolved to survive in small bodies of water or without water temporarily until the rains come.
I want to put Chronos in a tank but our dorm rules a "NO" on all pets but fish and no on tanks-which is a bummer.
Which reminds me I have go clean his bowl later.
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Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 7:41 pm
I read that anything under 2.5 or smaller will stress them. They like kind of still pond-like water.
I have mine (a blue cardinal male) in a five gallon tank. I'm hoping to put real plants in it, because I've had no success with live plants in my 55 gallon (Rooters, eaters stare ) but since it's just him (and maybe soon a couple of tetras) I think he'll be fine. He gets really energetic after he eats, lol.
He's the only one I have and he made a bubble nest at the top of the tank. Which I've got to change the water tomorrow but I don't want to mess up his masterpiece! gonk I think he might of made it because of his imaginary competition for his imaginary female (his reflection LOL) I sat there for hours today watching him!
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