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 Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2005 2:21 pm
Does anyone know any sparring techniques? A friend and I are taking Tae Kwon Do, and we started sparring about two belts ago. The friend is'nt very good, and was wondering for helps on techniques.(The friend is typing, by the way.)
neutral I think shes good >> But anyways, we were wondering what are some good strategies for sparring that you've found, or know of?
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Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2005 4:38 pm
You can't just copy someone else's techniques, you have to train and train and spar and spar until you get something that your good at executing, then you work on that and advance it with combinations and variations of the move.
Such as myself for example. I love the Hook kick, Mostly because I find that alot of people are unable to do it properly, and I'm able to do it well. With the hook kick I'm able to both freak out my opponent, by going as fast as I can then just clearing there head as they freeze up, thus leaving me a second to land and fire another shot, or I can add it onto the end of or in the middle of different combo's to confuse and sometimes injure my opponent.
Anyways, as I said. Do what your good at and advance from there.
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Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2005 6:54 pm
This is the friend. Thank you! Im not very good at hook kicks, though. I'm vertically challenged, so my hook kicks come to about an average persons' neck. sweatdrop
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Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2005 8:07 pm
Aww thats a good idea^^ I suppose my favorite would be the double round kick...so I guess I should make somethign around that? Or is it not fast enough sweatdrop
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Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2005 8:10 pm
cometkitty00 Aww thats a good idea^^ I suppose my favorite would be the double round kick...so I guess I should make somethign around that? Or is it not fast enough sweatdrop damnit am i the only one here who can't do a double roundhouse,my best kick though would be a axe kick or a sweep kick.
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Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2005 8:14 pm
er...I dont mean to sound like a newbie to martial arts (even tho I kinda am lol) but whats a sweep kick? sweatdrop I like axe kick...though I cant seem to get it high enough with any power >>
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Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2005 11:39 pm
cometkitty00 Aww thats a good idea^^ I suppose my favorite would be the double round kick...so I guess I should make somethign around that? Or is it not fast enough sweatdrop Its all depends on how you use it, it can be fast enough, but you have to work through it. Because you have to be able to do it stationary, moving forwards, moving backwards, and even moving side to side for it to be effective when you want it to be. dragonking217 damnit am i the only one here who can't do a double roundhouse,my best kick though would be a axe kick or a sweep kick. Axe kick is far to basic to really be considered a tactical sparring move, let alone a good sparring Technique. I mean seriously, how many people do you think actually get caught by a Axe kick. A sweep kick, though never used in WTF its to simple to dodge or counter. I mean seriously, some moron tried a sweep kick at me in school(high school) he caught the back of my front knee, I didn't fall. I stepped forward, and next thing you know he has a shoe print on his chest and my knee is at his throat. Its just not smart to do a sweep kick. cometkitty00 er...I dont mean to sound like a newbie to martial arts (even tho I kinda am lol) but whats a sweep kick? sweatdrop I like axe kick...though I cant seem to get it high enough with any power >> Sweep kicks are used to ground your opponent. There are different types, such as a standing shot to the back of their knee with the ball of your back foot(sometimes your front) or you can go down low and try to trip them up that way, I find both to be pointless and ineffective.
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Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2005 1:53 am
Forget particular techniques just do what you feel comfortable doing. Whats really important to work on in my opinion is speed, lateral movement and ranging.
Speed - this is important for obvious reasons, the quicker you can perform a technique the more chance you have of making it land.
Lateral movement - I cant stress the importance of this enough. With the exception of turning/reverse turning (and hooking), nearly all of the rest of techniques you regurlary see in TKD can be side stepped (and then countered).
Ranging - this is the ability to know whether a particular technique will land in the given range. When people start out sparring you will quite often see them throwing technique after technique at each other that just have no hope of landing, or cowering away from a technique that is out of range. A way to practise this is to have one partner throwing a particular technique at you and positioning yourself such that it just misses you, then launching yourself into range and counter attacking.
Remember kids its easier to evade an attack than block it..
And of course there's no substitute for practise, practise, practise..
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Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2005 5:21 am
DarklingGlory Forget particular techniques just do what you feel comfortable doing. Too many people try and pick specific movements/combos because they look good. The reality is, fighting is not about looking good. It is about being comfortable and using what works for YOU. Just because one person may be good at a double roundhouse transition to a backhand, doesn't mean you will be. Personally, I am a fan of the ground and pound when fighting one opponent. It is not pretty, but it is effective. Yes, it can also be a part of sparring. You're not going to injure your opponent/friend, but if they can not get up from you heavily controlled (weakened strikes) ground and pound, how can they avoid it/escape from it if someone was going full force in a real situation. Bottomline, however, is that no matter what, you have to be comfortable with what you are doing. Otherwise you will never be able to reach your full potential as a martial artist. DarklingGlory Whats really important to work on in my opinion is speed, lateral movement and ranging. Speed - this is important for obvious reasons, the quicker you can perform a technique the more chance you have of making it land. Lateral movement - I cant stress the importance of this enough. With the exception of turning/reverse turning (and hooking), nearly all of the rest of techniques you regurlary see in TKD can be side stepped (and then countered). Ranging - this is the ability to know whether a particular technique will land in the given range. When people start out sparring you will quite often see them throwing technique after technique at each other that just have no hope of landing, or cowering away from a technique that is out of range. A way to practise this is to have one partner throwing a particular technique at you and positioning yourself such that it just misses you, then launching yourself into range and counter attacking. Yes and no on these points. These are the skils that YOU are most comfortable with. Others may not be good at obtaining speed. For them the ability to take a hit and use their brute strength may be their best asset/what they are most comfortable with. I say this because, though I agree about your points and they are what I use, I have a buddy who is a Purple in Gracie (Brazilian) Jiu-Jitsu whom uses his brute strength/ability to take a hit, to win almost every bout he is in. DarklingGlory Remember kids its easier to evade an attack than block it.. And of course there's no substitute for practise, practise, practise.. Couldn't be said any better!
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Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2005 5:00 am
LivingTribunal DarklingGlory Forget particular techniques just do what you feel comfortable doing. Too many people try and pick specific movements/combos because they look good. The reality is, fighting is not about looking good. It is about being comfortable and using what works for YOU. Just because one person may be good at a double roundhouse transition to a backhand, doesn't mean you will be. Personally, I am a fan of the ground and pound when fighting one opponent. It is not pretty, but it is effective. Yes, it can also be a part of sparring. You're not going to injure your opponent/friend, but if they can not get up from you heavily controlled (weakened strikes) ground and pound, how can they avoid it/escape from it if someone was going full force in a real situation. Bottomline, however, is that no matter what, you have to be comfortable with what you are doing. Otherwise you will never be able to reach your full potential as a martial artist. Well said, ideally you shouldn't really have to think about what your doing/about to do, it should just sort of happen by itself. Instead of thinking I'm going to do this this then this, you should spot an opening and stick something in it LivingTribunal DarklingGlory Whats really important to work on in my opinion is speed, lateral movement and ranging. Speed - this is important for obvious reasons, the quicker you can perform a technique the more chance you have of making it land. Lateral movement - I cant stress the importance of this enough. With the exception of turning/reverse turning (and hooking), nearly all of the rest of techniques you regurlary see in TKD can be side stepped (and then countered). Ranging - this is the ability to know whether a particular technique will land in the given range. When people start out sparring you will quite often see them throwing technique after technique at each other that just have no hope of landing, or cowering away from a technique that is out of range. A way to practise this is to have one partner throwing a particular technique at you and positioning yourself such that it just misses you, then launching yourself into range and counter attacking. Yes and no on these points. These are the skils that YOU are most comfortable with. Others may not be good at obtaining speed. For them the ability to take a hit and use their brute strength may be their best asset/what they are most comfortable with. I say this because, though I agree about your points and they are what I use, I have a buddy who is a Purple in Gracie (Brazilian) Jiu-Jitsu whom uses his brute strength/ability to take a hit, to win almost every bout he is in. Thats true, but I could argue that if he could improve his speed it would improve his game imeasurably. Being able to take a hit, hit powerfully and quickly would make him far more formidable...
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Posted: Sun Oct 30, 2005 5:07 pm
Kai Kazuku Axe kick is far to basic to really be considered a tactical sparring move, let alone a good sparring Technique. Not necessarily. I'm rather fond of the axe kick, personally. I was sparring just today and used it relatively effectively. I went at the other guy with two axe kicks, which put his focus high, and then launched a front kick at his gut. Even if you don't intend to hit the guy, you can distract them or drive them back with it. But anyway, for the most part, you should avoid specific combinations. Some kid in my class kept trying to use the same two techniques over and over again... It didn't work the first time; it didn't work the twentieth.
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Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 8:51 am
Wilhem Kai Kazuku Axe kick is far to basic to really be considered a tactical sparring move, let alone a good sparring Technique. Not necessarily. I'm rather fond of the axe kick, personally. I was sparring just today and used it relatively effectively. I went at the other guy with two axe kicks, which put his focus high, and then launched a front kick at his gut. Even if you don't intend to hit the guy, you can distract them or drive them back with it. But anyway, for the most part, you should avoid specific combinations. Some kid in my class kept trying to use the same two techniques over and over again... It didn't work the first time; it didn't work the twentieth. I don't even wanna know who you were fighting, because they sound like a moron in the ring, you come at me with one drop kick and as soon as you land I'm in your gut with either a side step pich or back kick, not to mention I could just stand there and hook kick you.(Yes, I've fended off dropkicks with my hook kick)
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Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 8:25 pm
Kai Kazuku Wilhem Kai Kazuku Axe kick is far to basic to really be considered a tactical sparring move, let alone a good sparring Technique. Not necessarily. I'm rather fond of the axe kick, personally. I was sparring just today and used it relatively effectively. I went at the other guy with two axe kicks, which put his focus high, and then launched a front kick at his gut. Even if you don't intend to hit the guy, you can distract them or drive them back with it. But anyway, for the most part, you should avoid specific combinations. Some kid in my class kept trying to use the same two techniques over and over again... It didn't work the first time; it didn't work the twentieth. I don't even wanna know who you were fighting, because they sound like a moron in the ring, you come at me with one drop kick and as soon as you land I'm in your gut with either a side step pich or back kick, not to mention I could just stand there and hook kick you.(Yes, I've fended off dropkicks with my hook kick) Actually, he pulled off second place in his division of the National Soo Bahk Do sparring tournament. Just because he didn't drop me with a single attack doesn't mean he's no good. Considering how fast you can launch an axe kick (straight up, straight down), most people aren't going to be able to dodge it and counter that quickly. If you can, then good on you, but that doesn't make it a useless technique. Besides, no technique is too "basic" to be a good technique. I'm sure you've won a sparring match with just a basic punch before.
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Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 11:23 pm
Wilhem Actually, he pulled off second place in his division of the National Soo Bahk Do sparring tournament. Just because he didn't drop me with a single attack doesn't mean he's no good. Considering how fast you can launch an axe kick (straight up, straight down), most people aren't going to be able to dodge it and counter that quickly. If you can, then good on you, but that doesn't make it a useless technique. Besides, no technique is too "basic" to be a good technique. I'm sure you've won a sparring match with just a basic punch before. I'm a Taekwondo user, no hands in tournaments expect to block(grabbing not allowed) But I still believe a Axe Kick is to basic, yes its straight up straight down, well, thats the old style, but if you use it like that your first have to make sure they are comming in. The new style that we were taught in Taekwondo, and this was awhile ago, was to bring your kicking knee up into your chest, extend your leg and then drive it straight down with the same motion, thus making it more effective close range. I'm not sure if Soo Bahk Do goes by Point, stop, restart(Easiest way to describe it) or full a entire round, 2-3 minutes of combo's and rallys. But I do know Taekwondo does, and with the higher up belts, if you ever see a drop kick come from them, its because their opponent has maybe stumbled or spun wrong leaving there back open for a strong but slightly slow kick. Eh, anyways, I prefer the back kick as a nice counter to Axe kick, well, to alot of kicks. Same goes for hook kick.(I'm good at both, and you'd never be able to tell it from my body.)
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Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2005 2:47 am
I'd have to say that the axe kick in TKD sparring is a devastating technique I've seen used to great effect especially at the highest level of TKD sparring... I've seen championships won with it.. its particularly useful when someone tries that switch kicking crap one you (you know switching from one turning kick to the other midair almost), stick a nice fast axe kick in there.. centre parting. And its so versatile, you can change it to snap kick on the way down.. twist into turning/hook/side kicks with lightning speed.. jump into a rear leg jumping turning kick (I've got people with that a few times.. maximum points for a jumping kick to the head). People quite often think they've got you when you do an axekick.. ie wait for it to land and come in.. you can use this to your advantage.. I wouldn't use it in non TKD sparring as its too high but against TKD and non martial artists its great (intimidation value)
And not all TKD cant use hands, infact most TKD can..
There is no such thing as too basic for sparring... the best sparring techniques are the basics..
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