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 Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 3:20 pm
UPDATE! Video Clips.See for yourself!: ...It's a bit pixely but easy to see. Maximus 1Maximus 2Maximus 3^ Youtube Video Clips ^ I have a confession to make, my horse has...no withers. I'm not being silly it's 100% fact. >< Every saddle slides under him as you mount cause theres "nothing there". So in turn I can't mount without help...and he's 14.2! I even bought a new saddle, no go. >< And I know all about full bars, qh bars, everything, nothing yet has worked, and since the saddle slides I can't properly teach him to get into gait. (TWH Gait) I really don't want to sell him. ...I'm at the end of my rope, help?
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Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 7:22 pm
Have you tried non-slip pads under the saddle pad? I worked with fjords last summer... talk about no withers! We used Nunn-finer non-slip pads under the saddles on most of the wider horses, and would stack them for the hippotherapy pads. With my round little fjord project, I usually did the non-slip pad, then the saddle pad, then another non-slip pad for extra stickiness. The barn I work at right now has another kind of non-slip pads that go under our surcingles, but I don't know what they're called. They work well enough, I'm sure a little research can find you different reviews on them.
I also almost never mount from the ground. I can if I have to, but it's not good for their backs, so I use a mounting block of some sort whenever possible.
Hope that might have helped some? I don't know anything about training gaited horses, but honestly, with horses that are that ridiculously round, a lot of it is just perfecting your balance. After working with the fjord last summer, I can school the warmbloods through all of their paces bareback, despite some of their frisky antics >.<
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Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2009 8:36 pm
If u feed him less he'll loose weight and get withers, right? All my horses have withers. They are mostly in Endurance shape - it's be hard to ride endurance on a rolly polly horse. lol
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Posted: Sun Mar 15, 2009 5:54 pm
have you tried a wither pad, or maybe a breastplate? that might help with the slipping.....
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Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2009 9:19 pm
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Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 4:24 pm
Pads don't work at all. Tried every kind there is I bet!
I have no block sadly. :C
But thanks!
And he's not overweight, it's called mutton withers.
Breast collars slip because he's slender also.
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Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 8:17 pm
Couple things to try:
There's this sticky stuff jumpers put on their boots, find out if you can use it on your horse, it's amazing stuff (And illegal in the show ring)
Or, you know those kitchen mats with the foamy bumps? You can get them at the dollar store. Put that under your pad.
Also, maybe his coat is too slick, excess oil can cause slipping, try bathing him more to remove oil.
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Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2009 4:07 am
I know horses that never grew 'normal' size withers and the owners always had trouble with the saddle slipping to one side or the other. Good luck!
It doesn't mean you have to sell the horse, you can work around it but i see where your coming from. It would be a pain to having to keep stopping and fix the saddle + pad.
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Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2009 6:21 am
We used to Stick Tight (the stuff Stargazer mentioned) on cross country, I hadn't thought of that! Definitely worth looking into.
Can you find an alternative to a block for mounting? If he's only 14.2 you shouldn't have to get very high off the ground to be able to swing up. An overturned water bucket can give you just enough height to vault on. You can also purchase plastic portable mounting blocks. I don't think they're too expensive. Mounting blocks also aren't that hard to build. They even make a little foldable thing for trail riders that you can fold up and tie to your saddle. Never tried that one, but I think it's a cool concept.
Is the saddle only slipping sideways, or does it also slip back? A breast collar won't help with side-to-side slip (trust me on this one!) but if it's properly adjusted it can keep the saddle from sliding back too far. I had some pretty wasp-waisted horses that I used to do jumpers and event on and if I didn't have the breast collar perfectly adjusted I'd end up on their loin by the end of the course!
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Posted: Sat Apr 11, 2009 7:16 am
post a pic, i wanna see!
ps. plz join my guild (siggy)
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Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 11:15 pm
cuttiegirlamber If u feed him less he'll loose weight and get withers, right? All my horses have withers. They are mostly in Endurance shape - it's be hard to ride endurance on a rolly polly horse. lol Um, yeah... all I'm going to say is that by feeding him less you'll lose whatever muscle and healthy fat they already have. Her Royal Bossness- I suggest trying out a tighter girth and/or a breastplate/martingale in a size that might seem too small. I've had a horse who had the exact opposite of your problems and yet the saddle still slipped everywhere... makes no sense, I know. I would also like to ask that you post a picture of your horse (if you haven't already... I didn't get much farther than cuttiegirlamber's response) so that we can see exactly how much isn't there.
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Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 11:19 am
I'll post some video up top of him!
xD That's all I have that shows his withers anyway.
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Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 12:05 pm
Her Royal Bossness I'll post some video up top of him! xD That's all I have that shows his withers anyway. I'm a friend of EQuestrian_343 and all I can say, is that that horse has withers. Quite a bit actually. His shoulder blades are high too. All I can guess, is that your saddle is being placed too far back. The front edge saddle-flap should stop right at the back of the shoulder. If you have to, it can overlap th shoulder if it is a must.
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Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2009 1:12 pm
iRoseThorn_xXx Her Royal Bossness I'll post some video up top of him! xD That's all I have that shows his withers anyway. I'm a friend of EQuestrian_343 and all I can say, is that that horse has withers. Quite a bit actually. His shoulder blades are high too. All I can guess, is that your saddle is being placed too far back. The front edge saddle-flap should stop right at the back of the shoulder. If you have to, it can overlap th shoulder if it is a must. Really? Someone was telling me at work his shoulders might be large and pushing the saddle back as he walks? I always put the saddle directly on if not a bit over his wither, and shoulder and the saddle still slides! Does anyone think it could be a growing issue as he keeps changing in height and width weekly?
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Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2009 3:14 pm
still growing... how old is he?
Also, if you're putting the saddle up on the shoulders it's not going to fit correctly and is going to slide. The saddle should sit just far enough back not to impede the natural movement of the shoulder.
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