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What do you think the world would be like had they taken the steamball seriously in 100 AD?
  Like somthing right out of a steampunk book
  Alot like now, maybe alittle differant but nothing big
  Nano technology and holograms and stuff. Because we'd have gotten a jump start on technology
  Probly somewhere between a steampunky world and now
  Probly somewhere between a high tech futuristic world and now
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Amossk

PostPosted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 1:40 pm


I find the whole steampunk world idea very thought provoking. It makes me wonder...what would our reality be like if there was just one small change in the past? for example. A man in 100 AD invented a steam powered ball. it would spin around using steam. People only saw it as a novelty and a fancy toy though. But what if someone had seen its potential? It would have caused the industrial revolution to happen almost 2,000 years ago.

What do you think the world would be like now if they had taken it seriously? Or can you think of any other seemingly minute changes that would cause us to live in a steampunky world now?
PostPosted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 2:21 pm


There's no way to tell for sure, since changing something like that in history is a lot more significant than the typical "crush a bug" or "accidentally kill your ancestor" kind of stuff with comical Michael J. Fox results.

I'd say, if it was taken seriously and steam-powered machines were developed soon after 100 AD, that doesn't necessarily mean that everything else happens sooner... Mankind could very well be stuck in a rut for a thousand years of steam technology, only ever making slight improvements when the occasional genius comes by and invents a new way to utilize steam. They'd probably have steam cars, steam boats, steam factories and whatnot (assuming there is enough effort put in to understanding the chemistry and physics involved), but it would probably only replace horse-drawn-carts, sails, and man-power until someone eventually harnessed electricity or at least advanced mechanics (like the difference engine and stuff) to make REAL progress.

I'd say that definitely the medieval, feudal, and renaissance eras of Europe probably wouldn't even occur, since steam powered machines would likely replace the need for man-and-horse farming. I'd imagine a steam powered printing press would make literacy and education more widespread and at a much earlier time, but unless someone actually discovers how things like electricity and petroleum work (which are more left up to chance than flat out research), there's no guarantee that any modern technology would develop any sooner, but it might be more likely.

Man... 100 AD. It's hard to even think of machinery that long ago. In 100 AD, things like bricks and wheelbarrows were just becoming common (mass produced bricks, I believe, not the hand-made adobe type stuff). If nothing else it'd make a great setting for a book or graphic novel.

I could see how this could EASILY be made into a motor... If the torque is made powerful enough, you could turn the sides of the ball into sprockets and have it pull a chain (or just pulley/rope or wheel/belt combos) and accomplish some basic stuff like maybe operating a grinding wheel or small mill or something, and eventually they'd figure out something more usefull.
Hero's Aeolipile (the steam ball)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steam_ball

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 2:52 pm


I'm certain the potential for the steam ball was seen, but how can the government/businesses make money off of something that runs on heat and water? mad
PostPosted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 4:35 pm


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I'm certain the potential for the steam ball was seen, but how can the government/businesses make money off of something that runs on heat and water? mad


I don't think there was a government in that sense back then. They had like kings and rulers who could impose as many unfair taxes as they wanted. they could tax water even. I think more likely it was ahead of its time and its potential just went over their heads.

Amossk


Nisha Lan

PostPosted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 8:32 am


Xeigrich
I'd imagine a steam powered printing press would make literacy and education more widespread and at a much earlier time, but unless someone actually discovers how things like electricity and petroleum work (which are more left up to chance than flat out research), there's no guarantee that any modern technology would develop any sooner, but it might be more likely.

I daresay much more likely, since - although pretty much based on chance - those discoveries would eventually be made thanks to the more widespread education. Easier access to education (with the help of printed books) automatically leads to more people being interested in science, which in turn leads to more "chance discoveries" of break-through technologies. Just take a look at today's frighteningly fast development, all due to fast education and communication means.

Though, then again, probably it wouldn't have been the same discoveries and we would now work with a totally different kind of highly advanced technology. Maybe by now we would have found a clean, quiet steam technology more in harmony with nature than burning thousands of tons of fossile energy...?

What I would really like to know is whether we would have been able to skip the Dark Ages - while I like that era in fictional works, I think mankind would have been better off without all the self implored loss of knowledge.

On a side note, I don't think the potential of steam technology went over their heads - at that time they still made some astonishing progress. It was just bad luck this idea didn't reach the right people (which would have happened if they had communicational means like we have today - which brings me right back to my first paragraph wink ).
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