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A Murder of Angels Captain
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 Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2005 1:43 am
"Every statement is in some sense true, in some sense false, in some sense meaningless, in some semse true and false, in some sense true and meaningless, in some sense false and meaningless and in some sense true and false and meaningless."Discordianism or Erisianism is a religion that worships the Goddess Eris. Eris is an ancient Greek goddess of confusion, chaos and discord. The interesting thing about the Erisian religion (Erisian and Discordian can be used interchangably) is that it literally began as a joke, and, as many practitioners believe, is still a joke. It all began with a text written in the 1950s called the Principia Discordia. From there, the "guidlines" set forth in the book actually began to gain followers. They know it's a joke, but being a joker is the major part of the religion. The goddess is real, and the spirituality is real, despite the constans pranks and confusion. Discordianism has expanded greatly since the Principia Discordia and has even created a new sect of magic called "Chaos magic". The founding dis-order or society that created the religion is called the POEE, which means "The Partheo-anametamystikhood Of Eris Escoteric". An individual group of Erisians is called a Cabal, and may consist of one to an infinite number of members. This thread is for discussion of Erisianism. I am not an Erisian, but I will do my best to answer all questions as best as I can. One final thing to keep in mind, Erisianism is the worship of the Chaos Goddess. As such, it has no set rules about anything. Every practise or philosophy is nothing but a (very) loose guideline. More information on Discordianism: http://www.witchvox.com/trads/trad_discord.html "If religion is the opiate of the masses, then Discordianism is the alcohol, caffeine, and something-or-other of the lunatic fringe."
~Somebody Important at Some Point
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Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2005 12:15 pm
Yay! Discordianism...
The only thing I don't like about it is that you have to eat hot dogs on fridays...I don't like hotdogs. eek
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A Murder of Angels Captain
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Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2005 12:26 pm
xdarktigress Yay! Discordianism... The only thing I don't like about it is that you have to eat hot dogs on fridays...I don't like hotdogs. eek You don't HAVE to do anything in the religion, except hail Eris. ^__^ The hot dog thing is a part of the "Pentabarf", five religious rules that aren't really rules: The Principia Discordia THE FIVE COMMANDMENTS (THE PENTABARF)
I - There is no Goddess but Goddess and She is Your Goddess. There is no Erisian Movement but The Erisian Movement and it is The Erisian Movement. And every Golden Apple Corps is the beloved home of a Golden Worm.
II - A Discordian Shall Always use the Official Discordian Document Numbering System.
III - A Discordian is Required during his early Illumination to Go Off Alone & Partake Joyously of a Hot Dog on a Friday; this Devotive Ceremony to Remonstrate against the popular Paganisms of the Day: of Catholic Christendom (no meat on Friday), of Judaism (no meat of Pork), of Hindic Peoples (no meat of Beef), of Buddhists (no meat of animal), and of Discordians (no Hot Dog Buns).
IV - A Discordian shall Partake of No Hot Dog Buns, for Such was the Solace of Our Goddess when She was Confronted with The Original Snub.
V - A Discordian is Prohibited of Believing what he reads.
IT IS SO WRITTEN! SO BE IT. HAIL DISCORDIA! PROSECUTORS WILL BE TRANSGRESSICUTED. EVERYTHING set forth in the Principia is such a joke that no one would follow it out of anything other than jest anyway!
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Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2005 12:39 pm
Here's another way to look at it... You could say the teachings of some religions, Catholic, for example, are carved in stone, I.E. certain teachings and rues, you HAVE to follow. You could say the teachings of Eris have been carved in cloud. xd
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A Murder of Angels Captain
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Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2005 1:48 pm
A Murder of Angels Here's another way to look at it... You could say the teachings of some religions, Catholic, for example, are carved in stone, I.E. certain teachings and rues, you HAVE to follow. You could say the teachings of Eris have been carved in cloud. xd Carved in cloud... ROFL ...*plans to go eat a hot dog on Friday, make funny faces, and respond with "it's a Discordian ritual" or something of the like when asked what the hell she's doing*
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Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2005 1:08 pm
NOW I realise what religions my friends must be, even if they don't realize it-Discordians.
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A Murder of Angels Captain
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Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2005 1:39 pm
Captain Jack Sporky NOW I realise what religions my friends must be, even if they don't realize it-Discordians. Why do you say that?
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Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2005 1:53 pm
What if I eat hamburgs instead of hotdogs on fridays? Will she send me to hell? Or does hell not exist? Or mabey is only exists whilst it is nonexistant.
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A Murder of Angels Captain
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Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2005 2:31 pm
xdarktigress What if I eat hamburgs instead of hotdogs on fridays? Will she send me to hell? Or does hell not exist? Or mabey is only exists whilst it is nonexistant. As I said, Erisians aren't required to follow ANY of the "teachings." And I don't think there's a hell according to the religion. Afterall, most of the practitioners are agnostics who are just looking for something to say they believe in. (Even if they honestly don't believe it. ^__^)
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Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2005 1:49 am
Wait wait wait, ok.
Wasn't Eris the one who god mad because she wasn't invited to a wedding? So she threw down this golden apple and told the goddesses who DID get to go to the wedding that the fairest could have it? So then Athena, Aphrodite (of course rolleyes ), and Hera all jump for it and start fighting over it. Yeah, I think it is.
It's funny, because then this prince has to choose between them and Athena is like, "I'll make you the wisest man in the world if you give it to me," and Hera promises to give him all of Asia, and Aphrodite promises him the most beautiful woman in the world. So he gives it to Aphrodite.
Lo and behold, the most beautiful woman in the world is Helen of Sparta. The prince's name is Paris. This is the beginning of the Trojan War. So it's all Eris' fault.
Hmm...
Interesting.
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A Murder of Angels Captain
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Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2005 2:18 am
Yes... yes, that's exactly the myth where Eris came from. That myth is also known by Discordians and is in the Principia Discordia. Here's the Erisian version... which is known as "The Original Snub" It's quite fun. ^__^ The Principia Discordia THE MYTH OF THE APPLE OF DISCORD It seems that Zeus was preparing a wedding banquet for Peleus and Thetis and did not want to invite Eris because of Her reputation as a trouble maker.* This made Eris angry, and so She fashioned an apple of pure gold** and inscribed upon it KALLISTI ("To The Prettiest One") and on the day of the fete She rolled it into the banquet hall and then left to be alone and joyously partake of a hot dog. Now, three of the invited goddesses,*** Athena, Hera, and Aphrodite, each immediately claimed it to belong to herself because of the inscription. And they started fighting, and they started throwing punch all over the place and everything. Finally Zeus calmed things down and declared that an arbitrator must be selected, which was a reasonable suggestion, and all agreed. He sent them to a shepherd of Troy, whose name was Paris because his mother had had a lot of gaul and had married a Frenchman; but each of the sneaky goddesses tried to outwit the others by going early and offering a bribe to Paris. Athena offered him Heroic War Victories, Hera offered him Great Wealth, and Aphrodite offered him the Most Beautiful Woman on Earth. Being a healthy young Trojan lad, Paris promptly accepted Aphrodite's bribe and she got the apple and he got screwed. As she had promised, she maneuvered earthly happenings so that Paris could have Helen (the Helen) then living with her husband Menelaus, King of Sparta. Anyway, everyone knows that the Trojan War followed when Sparta demanded their Queen back and that the Trojan War is said to be The First War among men. And so we suffer because of the Original Snub. And so a Discordian is to partake of No Hot Dog Buns. Do you believe that? ________________ * This is called THE DOCTRINE OF THE ORIGINAL SNUB ** There is historic disagreement concerning whether this apple was of metallic gold or acapulco. *** Actually there were five goddesses, but the Greeks did not know the Law of Fives.
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Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2005 4:14 pm
lol, that's great.
freaking hilarious, I like it. I have a freind who's obsessed with greek mythology... I'll have to send it to him.
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Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2005 2:09 pm
I love reading about Discordianism. Yeah it started as a joke, but it also started with the idea that jokes are a great way to prove points. The Principia Discordia should be taken as a wonderfully and intelligently constructed case against consensus reality. It's a joke, but jokes can have a good point. The book itself advises you to read it all over again if you thought it was just for sh*ts and giggles.
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Posted: Fri Jan 28, 2005 5:47 pm
w00t im the 1300th post!! (wheres my prize ninja ) anyways i threw my social studies teacher for a loop when i told him about this and now im doing a skit and report on it crying xd
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Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2005 4:15 pm
I seem to remember reading something about being forbidden and commanded to eat hotdogs on Fridays. It was in the Principia I think. Has anyone seen the discordian tarot? I love....
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