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The Bible is quite clear on what will happen to Satan - he will be thrown into the lake of fire. No going to heaven for him, no matter how much praying is done.

That said, I don't think Satan has actually *left* God, as I consider him to be a servant of Yahweh fulfilling his purpose of being mankind's adversary, until his eventual destruction.

What angels?

Satan is not an angel.
He does, however, have angels, as does God.

*face palms* Satan isnt some evil bad guy, when will people just finally get that he is an Angel, fully under God's power and nothing but a tester of faith.

It's the biggest example of what horrific mistranslation and excessive use of "well i think this means" can bring about.


Do you know what's going to happen to him?...nothing he will continue on being an Angel, maybe God will simply reassign his Job purpose.

yea..thats what i thought..use to be
although that example wasnt quite a match...but its not really giving the "rapist" a kiss and a hug with tons of money. Wouldnt it be the right thing to forgive and help pray for them to be a good person?
i suppose prayers might not work on him...

Syrokal: huh? err not a bad guy? lol face palm to you to...D:>

Ah, but he is! I got out my bible and cross-referenced it with my bible software on my computer and found this.

Called:
Beelzebub (Mt 12:24; Mk 3:22; Lk 11:15). Belial (2Co 6:15). The devil (Mt 4:1; 13:39; Lk 4:2-6; Rev 20:2). Satan (1Ch 21:1; Job 1:6; Zec 3:1; Lk 22:31; Jn 13:27; Ac 5:3; 26:18; Ro 16:20). Apollyon (Rev 9:11). Lucifer (Isa 14:12, KJV).

Character of:
Accuser (Job 1:6-7,9-12; 2:3-7). Adversary (Lk 22:31,53; 1Pe 5:8 ). Deceiver of the whole world (Rev 12:9). Murderer and liar (Jn 8:44; Ac 5:3). Sinned from the beginning (1Jn 3:8 ). Subtle (Ge 3:1; 2Co 11:3). Tempter (Mt 4:3; 1Co 7:5; 1Th 3:5; 1Ti 5:15). Transforms himself into an angel of light (2Co 11:14).

Described as:
Accuser of our brothers (Rev 12:10). Ancient serpent (Rev 12:9; 20:2). Angel of the bottomless pit (Rev 9:11). Enemy (Mt 13:29). Father of lies (Jn 8:44). Great dragon (Rev 12:9). Evil one (Mt 13:19,38 ). Power of darkness (Col 1:13). Prince of this world (Jn 12:31; 14:30; 16:11), of demons (Mt 12:24), of the power of the air (Eph 2:2). Ruler of the darkness of this world (Eph 6:12). Spirit that works in the children of disobedience (Eph 2:2).

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And btw, if you know how it should be done and what verses to use, why are you asking that question in the first place?? stare

Summary: Nope, once more the translators of the KJV version made Another epic **** up in there attempts to translate the bible, in the passage of Issiah it is Clearly stated that it' is the king of Babylon being mentiond i mean it says "Issiah 14:4 Thou shalt take up this proverb with the king of babylon"

For some reason in 14:12 They mistranslated the hebrew Haalal meaning "to shine" or Bear light so the issiah verse actually should read

14:12:
How art thou fallen from heaven, O Shining son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!”

It is a Generic referance to the king of Babylon's fall from grace nothing more nothing less, i mean the term Bright Morning star is used in Referance to Jesus later in the Bible.
He is later even refferd to as a man in 12:16



Now wall of text to back it up even more



It is sad, but nevertheless true, that on occasion Bible students attribute to God’s Word facts and concepts that it neither teaches nor advocates. These ill-advised beliefs run the entire gamut—from harmless misinterpretations to potentially soul-threatening false doctrines.

Although there are numerous examples from both categories that could be listed, perhaps one of the most popular misconceptions among Bible believers is that Satan also is designated as “Lucifer” within the pages of the Bible. What is the origin of the name Lucifer, what is its meaning, and is it a synonym for “Satan”? Here are the facts.

The word “Lucifer” is used in the King James Version only once, in Isaiah 14:12: “
How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!” The Hebrew word translated “Lucifer” is helel (or heylel), from the root, hâlâl, meaning “to shine” or “to bear light.” Keil and Delitzsch noted that “t derives its name in other ancient languages also from its striking brilliancy, and is here called ben-shachar (son of the dawn)... (1982, 7:311). However, the KJV translators did not translate helel as Lucifer because of something inherent in the Hebrew term itself. Instead, they borrowed the name from Jerome’s translation of the Bible (A.D. 383-405) known as the Latin Vulgate. Jerome, likely believing that the term was describing the planet Venus, employed the Latin term “Lucifer” (“light-bearing”) to designate “the morning star” (Venus). Only later did the suggestion originate that Isaiah 14:12ff. was speaking of the devil. Eventually, the name Lucifer came to be synonymous with Satan. But is Satan “Lucifer”?

No, he is not. The context into which verse 12 fits begins in verse 4 where God told Isaiah to “take up this parable against the king of Babylon, and say, ‘How hath the oppressor ceased! the golden city ceased!’” In his commentary on Isaiah, Albert Barnes explained that God’s wrath was kindled against the king because the ruler “intended not to acknowledge any superior either in heaven or earth, but designed that himself and his laws should be regarded as supreme” (1950, 1:272). The chest-pounding boast of the impudent potentate was:


I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God; and I will sit upon the mount of congregation, in the uttermost parts of the north; I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will make myself like the Most High (vss. 13-14).

As a result of his egotistical self-deification, the pagan monarch eventually would experience both the collapse of his kingdom and the loss of his life—an ignominious end that is described in vivid and powerful terms. “Sheol from beneath is moved for thee to meet thee at thy coming,” the prophet proclaimed to the once-powerful king. And when the ruler finally descends into his eternal grave, captives of that hidden realm will taunt him by saying, “Is this the man that made the earth to tremble, that did shake kingdoms?” (vs. 16). He is denominated as a “man” (vs. 16) who would die in disrepute and whose body would be buried, not in a king’s sarcophagus, but in pits reserved for the downtrodden masses (vss. 19-20). Worms would eat his body, and hedgehogs would trample his grave (vss. 11,23).

0It was in this context that Isaiah referred to the king of Babylon as “the morning star” (“son of the morning”; “son of the dawn”) to depict the once-shining-but-now-dimmed, once-lofty-but-now-diminished, status of the (soon to be former) ruler. In his Bible Commentary, E.M. Zerr observed that such phrases were “...used figuratively in this verse to symbolize the dignity and splendor of the Babylonian monarch. His complete overthrow was likened to the falling of the morning star” (1954, 3:265). This kind of phraseology should not be surprising since “n the O.T., the demise of corrupt national powers is frequently depicted under the imagery of falling heavenly luminaries (cf. Isa. 13:10; Ezek. 32:7), hence, quite appropriately in this context the Babylonian monarch is described as a fallen star [cf. ASV]” (Jackson, 1987, 23:15).

Nowhere within the context of Isaiah 14, however, is Satan depicted as Lucifer. In fact, quite the opposite is true. In his commentary on Isaiah, Burton Coffman wrote: “We are glad that our version (ASV) leaves the word Lucifer out of this rendition, because...Satan does not enter into this passage as a subject at all” (1990, p. 141). The Babylonian ruler was to die and be buried—fates neither of which Satan is destined to endure. The king was called “a man” whose body was to be eaten by worms, but Satan, as a spirit, has no physical body. The monarch lived in and abided over a “golden city” (vs. 4), but Satan is the monarch of a kingdom of spiritual darkness (cf. Ephesians 6:12). And so on.

The context presented in Isaiah 14:4-16 not only does not portray Satan as Lucifer, but actually militates against it. Keil and Delitzsch firmly proclaimed that “Lucifer,” as a synonym, “is a perfectly appropriate one for the king of Babel, on account of the early date of the Babylonian culture, which reached back as far as the grey twilight of primeval times, and also because of its predominate astrological character” (1982, p. 312). They then correctly concluded that “Lucifer, as a name given to the devil, was derived from this passage...without any warrant whatever, as relating to the apostasy and punishment of the angelic leaders” (pp. 312-313).