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 Posted: Sat Oct 15, 2005 4:27 pm
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Posted: Sat Oct 15, 2005 4:53 pm
I'm copying this down for later...
But yea, excellently writen. The dude(et) who authored this should get a medal.
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Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2005 12:36 am
I WAS actually nodding the whole time I read that.
Unfortunately, the only guys I know that exhibit that type of behavior are either gay, or so feminine that no woman I know of, not even myself, would consider dating them, despite the fact that they really ARE nice guys.
It seems our culture has some sort of stigma that the typical "maleness" = conceited a*****e. For some reason when women I know come across guys like this, it's like it proves they are "manlier" than the nice guys? I don't know how to explain it, really.
And yes, I agree that women are manipulative, illogical bitches. That's why I'm only friends with two of them. sweatdrop
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Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2005 3:49 pm
Reivena Unfortunately, the only guys I know that exhibit that type of behavior are either gay, or so feminine that no woman I know of, not even myself, would consider dating them, despite the fact that they really ARE nice guys. Yeah. sad I have that problem a lot. Being considerate only gets you so far.
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Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2005 3:59 pm
I do agree with most of that but I would like to point out that:
-not all women treat men like that or mean to treat women like that
-some women will do the same thing for me.
Sure there are great guys out there who don't finish ahead but there are girls who get the same. Nice people finish last regardless of gender.
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Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2005 4:07 pm
Chalda I do agree with most of that but I would like to point out that:
-not all women treat men like that or mean to treat women like that
-some women will do the same thing for me.
Sure there are great guys out there who don't finish ahead but there are girls who get the same. Nice people finish last regardless of gender. Very true, but it's just giving props to all the guys who have to deal with it. Yes, female can go through the same thing, but I think that this rant is directed more towards 'Intellectual Whores' than females. http://www.intellectualwhores.com/whyiw.html
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Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2005 8:06 pm
Women don't date "nice guys" because everyone who thinks they are a nice guy is a total pushover who fit better with a leash than a condom.
Your problem is that you are unimaginative. You actually think that you have to be a nice guy or an a*****e. Women aren't attracted to you because you have no balls.
Women don't take you seriously, they treat you like women. Why? Because you can't stand up for yourself. If you really wanted to date a girl you would get off your pansy a** and make them want to date you. But you'd rather not take any risks, you'd rather not rock the boat, you'd rather stay at a safe interim between anonymity and intimacy. You'd rather complain that girls don't like you than improve yourself to the point that they do.
Women wont date you because they don't respect you. They don't respect you because they know you are wusses. If you weren't a wuss you'd be with them by now. Or you would at least have told them to get their s**t together and sort out their own relationship problems, and hung up on them.
In conclusion, men without balls suck.
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Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2005 5:52 pm
SizeTwelveShoe Women don't date "nice guys" because everyone who thinks they are a nice guy is a total pushover who fit better with a leash than a condom. Your problem is that you are unimaginative. You actually think that you have to be a nice guy or an a*****e. Women aren't attracted to you because you have no balls. Women don't take you seriously, they treat you like women. Why? Because you can't stand up for yourself. If you really wanted to date a girl you would get off your pansy a** and make them want to date you. But you'd rather not take any risks, you'd rather not rock the boat, you'd rather stay at a safe interim between anonymity and intimacy. You'd rather complain that girls don't like you than improve yourself to the point that they do. Women wont date you because they don't respect you. They don't respect you because they know you are wusses. If you weren't a wuss you'd be with them by now. Or you would at least have told them to get their s**t together and sort out their own relationship problems, and hung up on them. In conclusion, men without balls suck. Of all the things I've known Sizetwelve to post, this is perhaps the most truthful I've ever seen him be. It may be harsh, but it's true.
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Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2005 6:06 pm
SizeTwelveShoe Women don't date "nice guys" because everyone who thinks they are a nice guy is a total pushover who fit better with a leash than a condom. Your problem is that you are unimaginative. You actually think that you have to be a nice guy or an a*****e. Women aren't attracted to you because you have no balls. Women don't take you seriously, they treat you like women. Why? Because you can't stand up for yourself. If you really wanted to date a girl you would get off your pansy a** and make them want to date you. But you'd rather not take any risks, you'd rather not rock the boat, you'd rather stay at a safe interim between anonymity and intimacy. You'd rather complain that girls don't like you than improve yourself to the point that they do. Women wont date you because they don't respect you. They don't respect you because they know you are wusses. If you weren't a wuss you'd be with them by now. Or you would at least have told them to get their s**t together and sort out their own relationship problems, and hung up on them. In conclusion, men without balls suck. As much as I don't want to admit it, in some cases what he said is incredibly true. Lack of respect for nice guys is a reason that they never get anything. They, for the most part, don't have enough spine to stand up for themselves. But as a rule, I don't generalize. Sure, a lot of nice guys don't bother 'rocking the boat', but there are some who do. At first, I never did. I was afraid of pushing them away by standing up for myself. I did get girlfriends, but it was always me falling for them, and them leaving. And yes, it probably was because I was spineless and didn't stand up for myself. My last little fling, I didn't stand for the s**t the girl was slinging. I was still nice about everything but I wasn't going to be walked all over. So it is possible to 'have balls', and be nice at the same time. In conclusion, all generalizations are wrong wink
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Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2005 6:18 pm
Tirion In conclusion, all generalizations are wrong wink Ha, ha, that iz funni becuz it iz also a genrelazaition.
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Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2005 6:26 pm
Thomas Neo Anderson Tirion In conclusion, all generalizations are wrong wink Ha, ha, that iz funni becuz it iz also a genrelazaition. Well aware, Just decided to throw it in to break tension... Or get people to make posts about how it defeats itself.
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Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2005 10:04 pm
SizeTwelveShoe Women don't date "nice guys" because everyone who thinks they are a nice guy is a total pushover who fit better with a leash than a condom. Your problem is that you are unimaginative. You actually think that you have to be a nice guy or an a*****e. Women aren't attracted to you because you have no balls. Women don't take you seriously, they treat you like women. Why? Because you can't stand up for yourself. If you really wanted to date a girl you would get off your pansy a** and make them want to date you. But you'd rather not take any risks, you'd rather not rock the boat, you'd rather stay at a safe interim between anonymity and intimacy. You'd rather complain that girls don't like you than improve yourself to the point that they do. Women wont date you because they don't respect you. They don't respect you because they know you are wusses. If you weren't a wuss you'd be with them by now. Or you would at least have told them to get their s**t together and sort out their own relationship problems, and hung up on them. In conclusion, men without balls suck.
Despite the fact that we are on very different sides of the user spectrum in LI in terms of how we post, I actually have to agree with you this time. And I think that I may actually try to take your advice to some extent.
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Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2005 5:35 am
SizeTwelveShoe Women don't date "nice guys" because everyone who thinks they are a nice guy is a total pushover who fit better with a leash than a condom. Your problem is that you are unimaginative. You actually think that you have to be a nice guy or an a*****e. Women aren't attracted to you because you have no balls. Women don't take you seriously, they treat you like women. Why? Because you can't stand up for yourself. If you really wanted to date a girl you would get off your pansy a** and make them want to date you. But you'd rather not take any risks, you'd rather not rock the boat, you'd rather stay at a safe interim between anonymity and intimacy. You'd rather complain that girls don't like you than improve yourself to the point that they do. Women wont date you because they don't respect you. They don't respect you because they know you are wusses. If you weren't a wuss you'd be with them by now. Or you would at least have told them to get their s**t together and sort out their own relationship problems, and hung up on them. In conclusion, men without balls suck. Though I would love to be the one who flames and says something like "Women don't respect hard headed fools such as your self either" I will go ahead and say this: Women are attracted to men who apear to be strong or "more manly" because of their sexual need for a strong man. They often do not date the nice guy because what they really want is a guy who can be a man when needed, and who can also do all of the 'nice guy' things. The unfortunate idea is that a guy who can be your best friend, can not be a good lover. Anyway, it is not correct of you to say that a all of the nice guys are the pushovers. Many nice guys will bring themselfs to be noticed and to ask a girl they are friends with out. Many of the nice guys are exceptional looking and are still turned down because a girl wants to have that friend that they can turn to when they are down, and honestly, women trust guys more than they do girls.
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Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2005 5:58 am
While it's easy to blame the "nice guy," it's really a question of maturity on the female end. Like any species, Humans are wired to seek out the strongest genes for reproductive survival. This usually involves teenage girls thinking that "bad boys" and jocks are hot, when in fact most of them are complete assholes. Hearts are broken, and lessons are learned. Biologically, there's a certain transition to when the woman doesn't want a jock, but a father for her children. This is when "nice guys" are sought out. It's true that women want a friend, someone that can understand them. Someone that will care for and protect her young. I think that you'll find that most young marriages fail sometime during or immediately after this transition. So, unless you're mindset is to only get laid, there's nothing wrong with being a "nice guy."
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Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2005 3:40 pm
Chalda I do agree with most of that but I would like to point out that:
-not all women treat men like that or mean to treat women like that
-some women will do the same thing for me.
Sure there are great guys out there who don't finish ahead but there are girls who get the same. Nice people finish last regardless of gender. I agree totally and completely. We often generalize about one sex so quickly before even considering the same thing about the other equally as tormented sex.
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