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Dice Lees

PostPosted: Fri Nov 28, 2008 6:32 am


(move to historical fashions board)- TS




The corset always seems to be such a source of contention in the study of historical fashion. There are those who condemn it and those who praise it - and this division was in place even while the corset was in vogue.

Let's start our own discussion on the corset and share some links.

It's my opinion that the ill-effects of the corset are relative. Not every person that used a corset suffered from health problems (indeed, there were corsets specifically designed to help people with back problems, etc.). It was issues of tight-lacing which tended to cause women to become short of breath and for their organs to become more dramatic misplaced. I don't know that there is any evidence to support that even majority of the people tightlaced. And men, too, were users of the corset.

- Corset Building (Farthingales)
- Antique Corsets and Other Unmentionables
- History of the Elizabethan Corset
- History of the Corset and Changing Silhouettes
- Reproduction Period Corsets
- History of the Bra
- http://community.livejournal.com/corsetmakers/profile (valuable for those interested in making corsets or have questions about corset construction)
PostPosted: Fri Nov 28, 2008 7:01 am


Corsets are amazing, but because of recent pop culture, they've turned into a goth/Madonna accessory. So now if you wear one, you're either a depressed kid obsessed with death or you're a slut.
But I still love them for their historical value and cause they're really, really pretty... heart

xhollybluex


Dice Lees

PostPosted: Fri Nov 28, 2008 7:03 am


xhollybluex
Corsets are amazing, but because of recent pop culture, they've turned into a goth/Madonna accessory. So now if you wear one, you're either a depressed kid obsessed with death or you're a slut.
But I still love them for their historical value and cause they're really, really pretty... heart

I totally agree. It's interesting how corsets went from something everyone wore to now being only associated with a few subcultures. I wonder if it's possible to trace that evolution.
PostPosted: Fri Nov 28, 2008 7:13 am


I adore corsets, I'm making an 18th century one at the moment. I also own a few that I bought.
It gets old how some people around in my area think that if you wear a corset then you're anorexic. Which is complete rubbish.
 

Little Miss Nofty


Dice Lees

PostPosted: Fri Nov 28, 2008 7:21 am


1Mrs Elizabeth Turner
I adore corsets, I'm making an 18th century one at the moment. I also own a few that I bought.
It gets old how some people around in my area think that if you wear a corset then you're anorexic. Which is complete rubbish.

I really want to make an 18th century corset as well. I've only ever made a Victorian (circa 1850s) corset, and it wasn't my most spectacular accomplishment. Maybe you'll share some pictures of your finished product, I'd love to see it when it's done!
PostPosted: Fri Nov 28, 2008 7:29 am


i dont understand why it was in fasion for so long i mean really it looks like a torture device

bryans590


Dunedien

PostPosted: Fri Nov 28, 2008 7:55 am


The corset in and of itself was not that bad. It was uncomfortable at first, but anyone that has worn one will tell you that you soon get used to the feel of it. The problem was (and is, some people still do it) corset training. Corset training works the same way on your waiste that braces do on teeth. You wear the corset 24-7 and you body conforms to the shape of the corset. This causes your organs to shift and be re-shaped, causing serious health issues. If you were to wear a corset almost every day like some women back then it would be more like wearing a high heel every day. It is not good for that part of your body, but it won't kill you.

P.S. At a reneisance festival I saw a girl that did corset training and now only has a 10 inch waist. She has to wear a corset at all times, and it is grose looking.
PPS. The "squish factor." This is a rule for the waist size of a corset you should buy I learned from a corset vendor. You should take your waist size in inches, add twenty, and divide by ten. Then subtract that # from your actual waist size. Any strapping thinner than that and it can be bad for you or hurt you when you strap in.
PostPosted: Fri Nov 28, 2008 8:02 am


Dunedien
PPS. The "squish factor." This is a rule for the waist size of a corset you should buy I learned from a corset vendor. You should take your waist size in inches, add twenty, and divide by ten. Then subtract that # from your actual waist size. Any strapping thinner than that and it can be bad for you or hurt you when you strap in.

That is a very good tip that I've never heard before, thank you for sharing!

I saw an episode of this show once, Vanity Insanity, I believe, and there was a similar woman who had gotten her waist size so far down that she had to keep the corset on at all times, or something horrid like her spine would break because, the small size of her waist couldn't not support her upper body. That really is insane.

I love corsets, and my friends and I jokingly say that wearing a corset is like getting nice strong hug. This is the kind of corset wearing I support, not crazy waist training and tight-lacing.

It's kind of like driving a car. It's safe as long as you use your car properly and follow the rules. If you start breaking the rules bad things can happen. This applies to so many things in life. All things in moderation.

Dice Lees


Errowyn

PostPosted: Fri Nov 28, 2008 8:04 am


Once you get used to them corsets aren't so bad. It takes some getting used to at first.

My only serious complaint is they make me feel like I'm having an asthma attack because they can make you feel short of breath.
PostPosted: Fri Nov 28, 2008 9:04 am


bryans590
i dont understand why it was in fasion for so long i mean really it looks like a torture device

Perhaps at the risk of oversimplifying, it was the forerunner of the bra. The corset was necessary for support. The fashionable aspect was just the silhouette that an individual corset created (that is some flattened the chest, or emphasized it; created a masculine look or an hourglass figure). It had a practical purpose.

Dice Lees


Yuukyuo

PostPosted: Fri Nov 28, 2008 9:18 am


the corset was made to make womens hips big and waist small. They said the bigger the hips the easier it was for them to have a child which is true. The smaller waist was so men could help them in and out of carts.
PostPosted: Fri Nov 28, 2008 10:47 am


I LOVE my corsets...

i have a cute silk black one, that i wear in public (usually in my goth attire)

and then i have my reenacting corset..

they feel really good on my back, I have problems dealing with how the put the needle in my back for my labor... so it helps support it

and what i do is lace the top tight to get that nice "generous boob" look and then keep the bottom loose so i can bend and pick up my kiddo...

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TheGildedDarrow

PostPosted: Fri Nov 28, 2008 10:55 am


Pft, I don't think everyone who wears a corset gets a bad rep. Forgive me, but I think corsets are some of the sexiest things alive. Do you know how hard it is to make a corset look trashy? It's VERY hard. Throw on a corset, some thigh highs, panites and heels, and I'm sure there would be very few the could resist.


But that's just me, -laughs- There were SOME corsets that caused damage, but that was due to a size issue more then anything. But, some people love to rocks out painful leather corsets, it's their thang.
PostPosted: Fri Nov 28, 2008 12:29 pm


Errowyn
Once you get used to them corsets aren't so bad. It takes some getting used to at first.

My only serious complaint is they make me feel like I'm having an asthma attack because they can make you feel short of breath.

If you feel short of breath you are probably wearing it too tight. Try a looser fitting. You should be able to walk around and even skip or jog for a short amount of time without feeling shortness of breath. This is freindly advise, I would hate for you to hurt yourself or faint because it is too tight. Be careful. heart

Dunedien


Lady Juliana

PostPosted: Sat Nov 29, 2008 10:11 am


I love corsets. I don't have one yet though...so sad. They're too expensive and I don't want a cheap one that doesn't work. I'd rather go for broke. About the goth or emo thing or whatever... I don't think wearing one makes you seem that way at all. But it makes you pretty hot though lol. I want me one of those Lily corsets on that period corset site.
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