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Rotting Gnarl

PostPosted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 9:09 pm


Polkout.com words it better than I can:
"Twenty years, readers, twenty years have passed since the USSR dissolved and damn near every crazy villain or terrorist in damn near every movie is still some crazy Russian guy. You'd think we'd start writing in Middle Eastern villains because, you know, they actually attacked us within our own borders and have been, arguably, a much more dangerous adversary than the USSR was in the Cold War era, but no, that would be insensitive. We wouldn't want to hurt any Middle Easterner's feelings by even vaguely implying that members of any ethnicity common to that region may have questionable morality by portraying them as villains... That's only acceptable with white people. But the Russians disagree; they're tired of being jeered at in our movies, shot at in our videogames; they want an end to this discrimination."

I totally agree. I hate how my people are always the crazy bad guys in movies. It's insulting and it pisses me off. mad
PostPosted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 9:15 pm


uhm... other than 007 and indiana jones, what else has had soviet bad guys?

idk, most of the movies i watch have nazi bad guys, mobster bad guys, drug dealer bad guys, or futuristic orwellian government agent bad guys. i really dont see very many russians - good or bad - in my movies.

MegaTherion777


Rotting Gnarl

PostPosted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 9:24 pm


MegaTherion777
uhm... other than 007 and indiana jones, what else has had soviet bad guys?

idk, most of the movies i watch have nazi bad guys, mobster bad guys, drug dealer bad guys, or futuristic orwellian government agent bad guys. i really dont see very many russians - good or bad - in my movies.

Pretty much any movie or game with terrorists, video games in particular. Get Smart recently had Russian bad guys, and the new Transporter movie. Hellboy had a Russian bad guy. So did one of the Rocky movies. The Most Dangerous Game had a Russian bad guy, though that was pretty old. I watched The Man Who Knew Too Little the other day and it had Russian bad guys. In video games, Metal Gear, Stranglehold, Splinter Cell, and many others feature shooting Russians as they yell out butchered phrases in my native tongue with bad grammer and accents. The list goes on and on, I just don't have a good knowledge of movies.
PostPosted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 9:27 pm


Rotting Gnarl
MegaTherion777
uhm... other than 007 and indiana jones, what else has had soviet bad guys?

idk, most of the movies i watch have nazi bad guys, mobster bad guys, drug dealer bad guys, or futuristic orwellian government agent bad guys. i really dont see very many russians - good or bad - in my movies.

Pretty much any movie or game with terrorists, video games in particular. Get Smart recently had Russian bad guys, and the new Transporter movie. Hellboy had a Russian bad guy. So did one of the Rocky movies. The Most Dangerous Game had a Russian bad guy, though that was pretty old. I watched The Man Who Knew Too Little the other day and it had Russian bad guys. In video games, Metal Gear, Stranglehold, Splinter Cell, and many others feature shooting Russians as they yell out butchered phrases in my native tongue with bad grammer and accents. The list goes on and on, I just don't have a good knowledge of movies.
get smart and rocky both took place during the cold war, did they not? at least, that's when the originals took place...

i mean, yeah, american movies tend to suck, but idk... i dont see that many russian bad guys.

MegaTherion777


My Hollow
Captain

PostPosted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 9:29 pm


Same here. And is that any reason to hate all american movies? How many religious zealots are in movies? I don't hate the movie idustry for it, stereotypes are dumb, but they happen.
PostPosted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 9:32 pm


MegaTherion777
Rotting Gnarl
MegaTherion777
uhm... other than 007 and indiana jones, what else has had soviet bad guys?

idk, most of the movies i watch have nazi bad guys, mobster bad guys, drug dealer bad guys, or futuristic orwellian government agent bad guys. i really dont see very many russians - good or bad - in my movies.

Pretty much any movie or game with terrorists, video games in particular. Get Smart recently had Russian bad guys, and the new Transporter movie. Hellboy had a Russian bad guy. So did one of the Rocky movies. The Most Dangerous Game had a Russian bad guy, though that was pretty old. I watched The Man Who Knew Too Little the other day and it had Russian bad guys. In video games, Metal Gear, Stranglehold, Splinter Cell, and many others feature shooting Russians as they yell out butchered phrases in my native tongue with bad grammer and accents. The list goes on and on, I just don't have a good knowledge of movies.
get smart and rocky both took place during the cold war, did they not? at least, that's when the originals took place...

i mean, yeah, american movies tend to suck, but idk... i dont see that many russian bad guys.

I think it was one of the later Rocky movies... And I was unaware that Get Smart was a remake... Still, pretty much every action movie has some big brute with a fake Russian accent. I'm pretty sure Kiss of the Dragon had a Russian bad guy, and at least one Bruce Lee movie.

Rotting Gnarl


My Hollow
Captain

PostPosted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 9:42 pm


The Russian guy in Hellboy was RASPUTIN. Thats not the media's fault.
PostPosted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 9:48 pm


My Hollow
The Russian guy in Hellboy was RASPUTIN. Thats not the media's fault.

I'll give you that one, but there's still an overwhelming flood of movies where the bad guy is just some random guy with a bad Russian accent.

Rotting Gnarl


My Hollow
Captain

PostPosted: Sun Nov 23, 2008 12:22 am


Rotting Gnarl
My Hollow
The Russian guy in Hellboy was RASPUTIN. Thats not the media's fault.

I'll give you that one, but there's still an overwhelming flood of movies where the bad guy is just some random guy with a bad Russian accent.

No, not really..... Not in the last 20 years or so.
PostPosted: Sun Nov 23, 2008 12:58 am


There's movies with bad guys from every race and creed.

Gravechylde
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Dark_Mana

PostPosted: Sun Nov 23, 2008 1:24 am


Rotting Gnarl
the bad guy is just some random guy with a bad Russian accent.
There was some movie (can't remember the name at the moment) on TV here not too long ago, which featured Nicholas Cage as some evil Soviet/Polish guy. I mean seriously. gonk
PostPosted: Sun Nov 23, 2008 6:37 am


Rotting Gnarl
MegaTherion777
Rotting Gnarl
MegaTherion777
uhm... other than 007 and indiana jones, what else has had soviet bad guys?

idk, most of the movies i watch have nazi bad guys, mobster bad guys, drug dealer bad guys, or futuristic orwellian government agent bad guys. i really dont see very many russians - good or bad - in my movies.

Pretty much any movie or game with terrorists, video games in particular. Get Smart recently had Russian bad guys, and the new Transporter movie. Hellboy had a Russian bad guy. So did one of the Rocky movies. The Most Dangerous Game had a Russian bad guy, though that was pretty old. I watched The Man Who Knew Too Little the other day and it had Russian bad guys. In video games, Metal Gear, Stranglehold, Splinter Cell, and many others feature shooting Russians as they yell out butchered phrases in my native tongue with bad grammer and accents. The list goes on and on, I just don't have a good knowledge of movies.
get smart and rocky both took place during the cold war, did they not? at least, that's when the originals took place...

i mean, yeah, american movies tend to suck, but idk... i dont see that many russian bad guys.

I think it was one of the later Rocky movies... And I was unaware that Get Smart was a remake... Still, pretty much every action movie has some big brute with a fake Russian accent. I'm pretty sure Kiss of the Dragon had a Russian bad guy, and at least one Bruce Lee movie.


yeah get smart was originally a tv sitcom from like the 70s that they decided to turn into a movie. and the rocky movie where he faught a russian was done in the late 80s, towards the end of the cold war but still during it.

but yeah, as grave said, there are bad guys from every race and creed. i HAVE seen middle eastern bad guys. a few years ago, it seemed like all the bad guys were north korean/chinese (except for the fact that the "korean" they were supposed to be speaking in the movie was actually japanese). of course, vietnam war movies have vietnamese bad guys. there are still lots of german bad guys, lots of non-russian eastern european bad guys, a fair amount of black bad guys, and american bad guys. maybe i dont watch enough movies or something, but i really don't see many russian bad guys outside of cold-war era movies. the new indiana jones and the new bond being exceptions.

MegaTherion777


Rotting Gnarl

PostPosted: Sun Nov 23, 2008 10:47 am


MegaTherion777

yeah get smart was originally a tv sitcom from like the 70s that they decided to turn into a movie. and the rocky movie where he faught a russian was done in the late 80s, towards the end of the cold war but still during it.

but yeah, as grave said, there are bad guys from every race and creed. i HAVE seen middle eastern bad guys. a few years ago, it seemed like all the bad guys were north korean/chinese (except for the fact that the "korean" they were supposed to be speaking in the movie was actually japanese). of course, vietnam war movies have vietnamese bad guys. there are still lots of german bad guys, lots of non-russian eastern european bad guys, a fair amount of black bad guys, and american bad guys. maybe i dont watch enough movies or something, but i really don't see many russian bad guys outside of cold-war era movies. the new indiana jones and the new bond being exceptions.

1. I've actually seen times where instead of Russian, they just have gibberish with subtitles. stare
2. I don't watch too many movies either, so I can't really give you a good list, but I've seen a LOT of Russian bad guys... And they ussually have "former Soviet ties".
3. Yeah, two of the biggest movies that people went to go see recently. The mentality is still being asserted to the public. And I wouldn't be surprised if they make a movie about this whole "rekindling of Cold War tension" crap that started after the whole Georgia thing.
PostPosted: Sun Nov 23, 2008 11:29 am


Rotting Gnarl
MegaTherion777

yeah get smart was originally a tv sitcom from like the 70s that they decided to turn into a movie. and the rocky movie where he faught a russian was done in the late 80s, towards the end of the cold war but still during it.

but yeah, as grave said, there are bad guys from every race and creed. i HAVE seen middle eastern bad guys. a few years ago, it seemed like all the bad guys were north korean/chinese (except for the fact that the "korean" they were supposed to be speaking in the movie was actually japanese). of course, vietnam war movies have vietnamese bad guys. there are still lots of german bad guys, lots of non-russian eastern european bad guys, a fair amount of black bad guys, and american bad guys. maybe i dont watch enough movies or something, but i really don't see many russian bad guys outside of cold-war era movies. the new indiana jones and the new bond being exceptions.

1. I've actually seen times where instead of Russian, they just have gibberish with subtitles. stare
2. I don't watch too many movies either, so I can't really give you a good list, but I've seen a LOT of Russian bad guys... And they ussually have "former Soviet ties".
3. Yeah, two of the biggest movies that people went to go see recently. The mentality is still being asserted to the public. And I wouldn't be surprised if they make a movie about this whole "rekindling of Cold War tension" crap that started after the whole Georgia thing.
indiana jones was a farce though. russians and aliens? come on

MegaTherion777


Gravechylde
Vice Captain

PostPosted: Sun Nov 23, 2008 12:30 pm


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