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 Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2005 1:18 pm
I read this on beliefnet.com. http://www.beliefnet.com/story/170/story_17088_1.htmlWhen Buddhism came to China, they explained it in Chinese. In Japan, In Japanese. In the West...ProductsI see that some people follow Buddhism because it is "trendy" and its not right because that way the person would be following Buddhism or whatever faith, blindly. I follow Buddhism because I discovered it for myself and felt it was right for me. When I first learned about Buddhism, it was in my Japanese History class and how my teacher explained it. I dont follow Buddhism just because it is the "in" thing. Dont you hate it when things like this happen. >_< For example, that place where I study Japanese at, people only go there because Anime/Manga is trendy, theyre only there just for that, disregarding the language (though they have to take it if theyre in the program). When I began to study Japanese, I didnt know what anime and manga were. I studied Japanese to learn about its culture, language etc and I still do. But I have no problem with those people though. I admit, I am starting to like anime and manga but im not obsessed with it and my central focus is in Japan, culture, and language. I study Japanese because I want to learn about it, not because of anime. So the same thing can be said about Buddhism being the "in" thing..blindly following it because of "products" ~Discuss~Following things blindly, just because theyre trendy (this dosent only have to apply to Buddhism, but it is part of the topic though) Oh and by the way, Im not saying that people in this guild are Buddhist just because its the "in" thing. I am just talking about what I read. So please dont get mad at meh! ^_^
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Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2005 3:31 pm
I know exactly what you mean. One of my friends likes to consider herself a Buddhist, simply because she thinks that the Buddha (in her words "the cute, little fat guy") is cool. It seems to me, to be somewhat ignorant; all the way around. People who do things, just to impress, could never truthfully be Buddhist anyhow.
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Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2005 3:49 pm
~ Jade Samadhi ~ I know exactly what you mean. One of my friends likes to consider herself a Buddhist, simply because she thinks that the Buddha (in her words "the cute, little fat guy") is cool. It seems to me, to be somewhat ignorant; all the way around. People who do things, just to impress, could never truthfully be Buddhist anyhow. I agree. Oh and that also, Buddhism isnt all about statues.
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Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2005 11:40 pm
~ Jade Samadhi ~ I know exactly what you mean. One of my friends likes to consider herself a Buddhist, simply because she thinks that the Buddha (in her words "the cute, little fat guy") is cool. It seems to me, to be somewhat ignorant; all the way around. People who do things, just to impress, could never truthfully be Buddhist anyhow. Dumb. It says in my World Religions book that there are several versions of what Buddha looked like, depending on where in the world you are.
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Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 10:17 am
~ Jade Samadhi ~ I know exactly what you mean. One of my friends likes to consider herself a Buddhist, simply because she thinks that the Buddha (in her words "the cute, little fat guy") is cool. It seems to me, to be somewhat ignorant; all the way around. People who do things, just to impress, could never truthfully be Buddhist anyhow.There are no appearances, because appearances are delusions. We are what we are. Wearing the mask of Buddhism does not make one a Buddhist.
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Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2005 7:51 pm
Akanishi Makoto ~ Jade Samadhi ~ I know exactly what you mean. One of my friends likes to consider herself a Buddhist, simply because she thinks that the Buddha (in her words "the cute, little fat guy") is cool. It seems to me, to be somewhat ignorant; all the way around. People who do things, just to impress, could never truthfully be Buddhist anyhow.There are no appearances, because appearances are delusions. We are what we are. Wearing the mask of Buddhism does not make one a Buddhist. My point exactly.
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Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2005 5:39 am
The very concept of Buddhism is about following nothing blindly. In a way I kinda see how the media and advertising make it feel more like a trend, but in a postive light that just means we (westerner or US) are becoming more open to other concepts of religion, ideas and values. So no matter how you "found" Buddhism the true followers and the followers by words alone will be weeded out natuarly...
I also want to learn Japanese, the main reason being that it would be easier to watch anime and I might want to visit there in the future. I liked anime before I even knew what Japanese was (grew up in the country). At that time anything that presented itself as asian, I ignorantly assume it was Chinese. But anyways, you make it seem as if wanting to learn japanese because you're an anime fan is somehow less nobler that wanting to learn it for the culture and what not. I simply do not think that is the case, because what is anime/manga but a reflection of the culture... 3nodding
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Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2005 1:23 pm
Saucycakes The very concept of Buddhism is about following nothing blindly. In a way I kinda see how the media and advertising make it feel more like a trend, but in a postive light that just means we (westerner or US) are becoming more open to other concepts of religion, ideas and values. So no matter how you "found" Buddhism the true followers and the followers by words alone will be weeded out natuarly... I also want to learn Japanese, the main reason being that it would be easier to watch anime and I might want to visit there in the future. I liked anime before I even knew what Japanese was (grew up in the country). At that time anything that presented itself as asian, I ignorantly assume it was Chinese. But anyways, you make it seem as if wanting to learn japanese because you're an anime fan is somehow less nobler that wanting to learn it for the culture and what not. I simply do not think that is the case, because what is anime/manga but a reflection of the culture... 3nodding To be honest, yes I DID see it was less nobler to learn Japanese because someone is an anime fan...and you know, now that I think of it..I feel pretty stupid. The only reason I feel like that is because the place where I study Japanese, I have nobody to discuss stuff we learn about Japan, language, and culture. It's always "lets talk about anime!". I dont mind talking about it, it just gets annoying if I have to talk about it too much. I just like to talk about something different for a change. I guess I am not so innocent either am I? I was drawn to Buddhism (Im not sure if I mentioned this) via a trip to a Buddhist Monastery in New York and my Japanese History class. My teacher started explaining to our class what it was, its origins, etc. Before my interest in Japanese, I used to be pretty ignorant towards Buddhism and Asia, and like you, I assumed anyhting east Asian as Chinese. And I even thought Buddhism originated in China too. But that feeling changed when I visited a Buddhist monastery in New York with a Japanese/Chinese summer language program. I ended up taking (filling up my bookbag) with tons of Books on Buddhism, even the Lotus Sutra in Chinese. Funny how something can dispell one's ignorance huh? As for the anime thing, I will say that I am wrong. Anyone can have an interest in Japanese just because of anime ^.^ . Hey, it's not bothering anyone is it? But I just dont like some really Hardcore anime fans who refuse to talk to one and shun them because they dont have a high interest in anime (happened to me with an IRL friend, and now she like hates me). But like I said, its their interest. Whatever floats their boat, at least that lead them to discover something else for a change. Oh and by the way, I like yore username (Saucycakes) 4laugh
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Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2005 6:34 am
Thankies for the complimentos 3nodding
I wasn't saying your wrong, I mean I don't know any hardcore anime fans or do I consider myself that, which could be a horse of a different color. It seems like your just fustrated by their ignorance, I know the feeling. confused
But anyways, I'm curious to know what attracts you to Japanese culture so much?
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Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2005 3:03 pm
Saucycakes Thankies for the complimentos 3nodding I wasn't saying your wrong, I mean I don't know any hardcore anime fans or do I consider myself that, which could be a horse of a different color. It seems like your just fustrated by their ignorance, I know the feeling. confused But anyways, I'm curious to know what attracts you to Japanese culture so much? XD, yeah I guess I am sorta bothered by their ignorance. What drew attracted me to Japanese was first it's writing system/language, then its music (traditional music such as: koto, shamisen, shakuhachi).
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Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2005 10:42 am
I have to agree with you, if you read my post in the being born in religion vs finding it on page two that will explain a little better. I think that you should have to find buddhism for yourself not just say ohh hey my friends are buddhist and so I am too. This usually ends up in false beliefs and what not. This is why we have so many people out there who write these books that are not completly true and so forth. Even when these people think that they are buddhist they are not, because they may follow the faith, but they do not know the meaning behind it cause it is something that is found through meditative contomplation.
well sayonara
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Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2005 2:10 pm
miyabi_kami_desu I have to agree with you, if you read my post in the being born in religion vs finding it on page two that will explain a little better. I think that you should have to find buddhism for yourself not just say ohh hey my friends are buddhist and so I am too. This usually ends up in false beliefs and what not. This is why we have so many people out there who write these books that are not completly true and so forth. Even when these people think that they are buddhist they are not, because they may follow the faith, but they do not know the meaning behind it cause it is something that is found through meditative contomplation. well sayonara XD, that that you bring that up, I was looking online around for some books about Buddhism, and a site gave a sample of the book and in it it said "Lords of karma" and im like "o_o ....pfft...not even gonna read it"
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Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2005 2:36 pm
Shokai miyabi_kami_desu I have to agree with you, if you read my post in the being born in religion vs finding it on page two that will explain a little better. I think that you should have to find buddhism for yourself not just say ohh hey my friends are buddhist and so I am too. This usually ends up in false beliefs and what not. This is why we have so many people out there who write these books that are not completly true and so forth. Even when these people think that they are buddhist they are not, because they may follow the faith, but they do not know the meaning behind it cause it is something that is found through meditative contomplation. well sayonara XD, that that you bring that up, I was looking online around for some books about Buddhism, and a site gave a sample of the book and in it it said "Lords of karma" and im like "o_o ....pfft...not even gonna read it" I wouldnt read it either sounds like a bunch of egotystical bull to me
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Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2005 6:04 am
miyabi_kami_desu I have to agree with you, if you read my post in the being born in religion vs finding it on page two that will explain a little better. I think that you should have to find buddhism for yourself not just say ohh hey my friends are buddhist and so I am too. This usually ends up in false beliefs and what not. This is why we have so many people out there who write these books that are not completly true and so forth. Even when these people think that they are buddhist they are not, because they may follow the faith, but they do not know the meaning behind it cause it is something that is found through meditative contomplation. well sayonara Well, what you say is pretty true ... since of Buddhists in my country are pretty much Buddhist in name ... they don't know anything else about it ... sweatdrop miyabi_kami_desu Shokai miyabi_kami_desu I have to agree with you, if you read my post in the being born in religion vs finding it on page two that will explain a little better. I think that you should have to find buddhism for yourself not just say ohh hey my friends are buddhist and so I am too. This usually ends up in false beliefs and what not. This is why we have so many people out there who write these books that are not completly true and so forth. Even when these people think that they are buddhist they are not, because they may follow the faith, but they do not know the meaning behind it cause it is something that is found through meditative contomplation. well sayonara XD, that that you bring that up, I was looking online around for some books about Buddhism, and a site gave a sample of the book and in it it said "Lords of karma" and im like "o_o ....pfft...not even gonna read it" I wouldnt read it either sounds like a bunch of egotystical bull to me and Lords of Action(Cause and Effect) ? Cool, I didn't know those kind of books were sold out there ... sweatdrop
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Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2005 6:18 am
~ Jade Samadhi ~ Akanishi Makoto ~ Jade Samadhi ~ I know exactly what you mean. One of my friends likes to consider herself a Buddhist, simply because she thinks that the Buddha (in her words "the cute, little fat guy") is cool. It seems to me, to be somewhat ignorant; all the way around. People who do things, just to impress, could never truthfully be Buddhist anyhow.There are no appearances, because appearances are delusions. We are what we are. Wearing the mask of Buddhism does not make one a Buddhist. My point exactly. Yup ... Wearing the mask of Buddhism only makes you a person who wears the mask of Buddhism ... Shokai ~ Jade Samadhi ~ I know exactly what you mean. One of my friends likes to consider herself a Buddhist, simply because she thinks that the Buddha (in her words "the cute, little fat guy") is cool. It seems to me, to be somewhat ignorant; all the way around. People who do things, just to impress, could never truthfully be Buddhist anyhow. I agree. Oh and that also, Buddhism isnt all about statues. mrgreen Yup, it is about playing with tables, chairs and books ... before burning pieces of paper and chanting gibberish while dancing around ... rofl
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