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| Do you think The Cure are goth??? |
| They must be! |
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| A bit, not to much tho... |
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| Na, just gloomy and morbid |
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 Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2005 10:32 pm
Ok, well this is a place for people who believe The Cure are goth. I personally believe that Robert did try to create a gothic scene around the Seventeen Seconds, Faith & Pornography time! no matter how much he denies it! stare But i'm with him now on not being goth... anyway despit my comments enjoy. biggrin stare
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Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2005 10:38 pm
I really dont know what to believe, whee to me in some senses they are, but then listening to their more pop-songs there is no "gothly" sense in it at all... So i just take it as the cure are wonderful and leave it at that.
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Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2005 10:41 pm
fetta I really dont know what to believe, whee to me in some senses they are, but then listening to their more pop-songs there is no "gothly" sense in it at all... So i just take it as the cure are wonderful and leave it at that. Yeah, thats how i think of it... in other words there is no right or wrong just... THE CURE! blaugh
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Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2005 10:42 pm
Robert James Smith fetta I really dont know what to believe, whee to me in some senses they are, but then listening to their more pop-songs there is no "gothly" sense in it at all... So i just take it as the cure are wonderful and leave it at that. Yeah, thats how i think of it... in other words there is no right or wrong just... THE CURE! blaugh Its too true! too true! xd
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Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2005 1:43 pm
technically they are defined as goth rock... but they right really good pop songs.... ^.^ yeah its just the cure! xp
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Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2005 9:29 am
I recently did a research paper on Their contribution to Gothic rock and Pop. They by no means fit into a category, but Seventeen seconds, Faith, and Pornography all fit into the genre of goth. So I guess they were..at one point *shrugs*
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Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2005 10:19 am
Although their music doesn't, as a whole, fit into one particular genre, some of the themes of their songs are definately gothic. As I understand it, gothic music is about musing on deeper issues or [stereotypically] more morbid issues than other genres of music typically focus on. The music and the lyrics are both a part of that, and I would class songs like Three Imaginary Boys (the song, not the album in general), for example, as gothic music. Other songs of theirs, examples slip my mind, I might say had a gothic theme to the lyrics but weren't actually gothic music.
In general, I wouldn't say that the Cure were primarily a gothic music band, but they have had their moments, as have been mentioned.
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Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2005 7:24 am
I agree with what nearly all of you have said.
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Posted: Sat Jan 22, 2005 5:43 am
Well, to talk about this we have to look back, "Boy's dont cry" was written in 1978, it's just punk. When the Cure made Pornography, it was VERY different compared with other groups of that days, except things like Siouxsie and the Banshees, but Siouxsie & t.B. was the first band that called themselves (is this correct?? I've to practice my english sweatdrop sorry, guive me some days to remember) a "Goth" band. And Smith played with the Banshees for a time!! so, maybe he don't like people says that Cure is a goth band, I don't like people say I'm a goth guy... but there are some things that all we have to recognice redface
The last Cure works are'n goth because they are more like pop and BECAUSE goth music is very different now , this was 20 years ago! of course, 20 years ago Cure was a goth band. Are they still? mm... maybe the letters are, anyway, not much time ago I went to a Cure concert in Madrid (I'm from Spain), and... how can I say, the clothes, the people, the music, the ambient it was... quite goth for the 2000 very goth for the 80's.
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Posted: Sun Feb 06, 2005 8:51 pm
okay, just found your guild and I'm popping some words in here... wink
hmmm... I think The Cure were often categorized as "goth" back in the early 80s but their sound is so varied that they could easily fit into several musical genres. Besides, people seem to have a very different impression when using the term "goth" today. I don't remember "goth" as being something negative, so my impression of the term is rather different.
I also heart The Glove. Blue Sunshine is a truly amazing album, rather psychedelic sounding.
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Posted: Sun Feb 06, 2005 9:45 pm
fletchen okay, just found your guild and I'm popping some words in here... wink hmmm... I think The Cure were often categorized as "goth" back in the early 80s but their sound is so varied that they could easily fit into several musical genres. Besides, people seem to have a very different impression when using the term "goth" today. I don't remember "goth" as being something negative, so my impression of the term is rather different. I also heart The Glove. Blue Sunshine is a truly amazing album, rather psychedelic sounding. O! yes I love that album! particully Mr. Alphabet Says! whee
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Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2005 8:09 pm
Hello, I was just invited to join this guild, so this is my first post! I'm really excited about this forum; I'm obsessed with Robert Smith. According to my sig, he's simply God...
Anyway, the only other forum I'm in is Goth Music 101. Over there, they highly consider The Cure to be goth rock, and they're very stubborn about that, claiming that he's all goth rock and nothing else. Besides that one claim, I don't mind that guild at all.
But seriously, The Cure cannot be labelled as a goth rock band! In many interviews, Robert Smith has clearly stated that The Cure is an alternative rock band, and I completely agree. They are simply The Cure! Unique, divine, and very heavenly. I would only consider Seventeen Seconds, Faith, and Pornography to fit under the goth rock category, and even that was very original for goth rock music, and I would know; I'm a very hardcore goth rock and new wave junkie.
From the beginning, The Cure's first two albums were considered punk. Naturally, however, they've always had this original touch to their music where you almost can't really categorize the punk stuff as "punk" and the goth stuff as "goth". It's too Cure-like to just be called stuff like that, but I'm sure you guys know what I mean.
After the "punk" beginning era and the "goth rock" secondary era, The Cure started to show a bunch of other strange eras to their music. Wild Mood Swings showed some extreme hyperness, then there were immense love songs, and of course the new wave-sounding stuff. It all forms together to form this band that's so much more than "punk", "goth rock", "lovely dovey", "new wave", etc. Hence the alternative course Robert Smith has stuck with.
This is simply The Cure - An Alternative Rock band. Thank you for reading.
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Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2005 10:49 pm
The Cure does have goth rock elements and some of their albums and songs purely express those well. Defining what is "goth" is popular these days, and I think that's pretty unfortunate, 'cause then you miss out on everything else that The Cure is and was... post-punk, new wave, alt rock, etc. Are they a goth rock band? Sure. But they're not ONLY that. Like... The Head on the Door ... only "A Night Like This" could really classify into as being a goth rock song, heh. Well, maybe one or two others, but I can't remember which ones, if any. O_o
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Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2005 2:36 am
I still believe labelling them "goth" is wrong. Most of albums that are labeled as such are ones that existed before "goth" became a label.
Current goth is a trendy label. The Cure are a band that makes good music, that is the most important thing. Why categorize and limit such a talent, would one put such a thing on Bowie? Or Eno? Doing so puts a limit on the talent which shouldn't be done.
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Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2005 4:24 am
fletchen okay, just found your guild and I'm popping some words in here... wink hmmm... I think The Cure were often categorized as "goth" back in the early 80s but their sound is so varied that they could easily fit into several musical genres. Besides, people seem to have a very different impression when using the term "goth" today. I don't remember "goth" as being something negative, so my impression of the term is rather different. I also heart The Glove. Blue Sunshine is a truly amazing album, rather psychedelic sounding. I really want to get some stuff by The Glove, but it's so hard to find! scream
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