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Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 8:07 am
Anyone ever look into the cultural significance of ululation? There's more to Xena's warcries than epic win.  Quote: An ululation is a long, wavering, high-pitched sound resembling the howl of a dog or wolf. It is an onomatopoetic word derived from Latin. Ululation is found in some singing techniques and ritual situations. In Arab countries ululation is commonly used by women to express celebration or grief, especially at weddings and funerals. It may also be used to encourage belly dancing. In the Middle East, zaghareet is an ululation performed to honor someone. In East Africa, ululation (or ililta) performed by worshippers is a feature of services in the Ethiopian Orthodox and Eritrean Orthodox Churches, and is also commonly used in secular celebrations such as parties or concerts. Ululation is incorporated into African musical styles such as Shona music, where it is a form of audience participation, along with clapping and call-and-response. Herodotus appears to mention ululation in North Africa (where it is still practiced), saying: I think for my part that the loud cries uttered in our sacred rites came also from thence; for the Libyan women are greatly given to such cries and utter them very sweetly. The Basque irrintzi is a signal of happiness originating from shepherds Ululation appears in many films set in the Middle East, such as Lawrence of Arabia and The Battle of Algiers. Sometimes it is depicted as a battle cry, for example in Xena: Warrior Princess. Even the animated feature GI Joe: The Movie featured the ululation "Cobra-la-la-la-la-la". It appears as comic relief in The Simpsons episodes "The Last Temptation of Homer" and "Midnight Rx"; as well as Family Guy in the episode "E. Peterbus Unum" where Stewie is curious about the sound Achmed "makes when you're about to assassinate an infidel". In Three Kings, the movie set in Iraq following the first Gulf War there is a scene where Spike Jonze, as Private First Class Conrad Vig, joins the Iraqi Shiite women in their ululating cries of joy until he is told this is not done by men. Ululation is also widely practiced in southern and eastern parts of India. People, especially women roll their tongues and produce this sound during festivals and celebrations. This is also an integral part of most weddings in these parts where depending upon the local usages people ululate to welcome the groom or bride or both. While in Tamil it is known as 'Kulavai'. Bengalis and Oriyas call it Ulu-uli.
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Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 3:22 pm
holy crud! eek all those words! eek i read up to "latin". i waz wonderin about her warcry tho.... ninja
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Posted: Sat Oct 18, 2008 11:11 am
By The Gods! eek Wow. biggrin Ya learn something new everyday. 3nodding And yes...I read the whole thing. wink
rofl You're Beautiful! heart
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Posted: Sat Oct 18, 2008 6:16 pm
I liked how guys aren't allowed to do it. xd Sorry, Pez. You're no longer allowed to do your dying ostrich ululation.
At the rainbow gathering, you can hear a bunch of people ululating in drum circles.
Haha. I like using that word.
whee
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FluffyWuffieBunny Vice Captain
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Posted: Sat Oct 18, 2008 10:12 pm
WHUT!? eek thats sexist! im readin it now! evil
it said it waz for happy or sad things that deh ladys did it for! evil or belly dancin. and when xena does it its not for those reasons talk2hand so i cin do my dying ostrich noise whenever i want yeh durn girl gaston talk2hand
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Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 1:32 pm
Azhren WHUT!? eek thats sexist! im readin it now! evil it said it waz for happy or sad things that deh ladys did it for! evil or belly dancin. and when xena does it its not for those reasons talk2hand so i cin do my dying ostrich noise whenever i want yeh durn girl gaston talk2hand Actually, it can be argued that Xena ululates during battle to demonstrate either joy or agony. We know from her character that it's obviously both, and it's also a symbol of female power like Xena. Men don't have any significant historical tie to ululation because it's a matriarchal society action.
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Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 8:41 pm
Cory Shallow Azhren WHUT!? eek thats sexist! im readin it now! evil it said it waz for happy or sad things that deh ladys did it for! evil or belly dancin. and when xena does it its not for those reasons talk2hand so i cin do my dying ostrich noise whenever i want yeh durn girl gaston talk2hand Actually, it can be argued that Xena ululates during battle to demonstrate either joy or agony. We know from her character that it's obviously both, and it's also a symbol of female power like Xena. Men don't have any significant historical tie to ululation because it's a matriarchal society action. i cant argu anythin cus i dont no anythin about uluation whee i know about xena! and i think that she used it as a battle cry 3nodding just a battle cry. there waznt any hidden reason behind besides "hey look! its me! whee " she also had a SHIIII-AH at deh end of it so that waz a little differant 3nodding
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Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 7:50 am
Azhren Cory Shallow Azhren WHUT!? eek thats sexist! im readin it now! evil it said it waz for happy or sad things that deh ladys did it for! evil or belly dancin. and when xena does it its not for those reasons talk2hand so i cin do my dying ostrich noise whenever i want yeh durn girl gaston talk2hand Actually, it can be argued that Xena ululates during battle to demonstrate either joy or agony. We know from her character that it's obviously both, and it's also a symbol of female power like Xena. Men don't have any significant historical tie to ululation because it's a matriarchal society action. i cant argu anythin cus i dont no anythin about uluation whee i know about xena! and i think that she used it as a battle cry 3nodding just a battle cry. there waznt any hidden reason behind besides "hey look! its me! whee " she also had a SHIIII-AH at deh end of it so that waz a little differant 3nodding You're the one who's missing out. >: 3
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Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 3:26 pm
Cory Shallow Azhren Cory Shallow Azhren WHUT!? eek thats sexist! im readin it now! evil it said it waz for happy or sad things that deh ladys did it for! evil or belly dancin. and when xena does it its not for those reasons talk2hand so i cin do my dying ostrich noise whenever i want yeh durn girl gaston talk2hand Actually, it can be argued that Xena ululates during battle to demonstrate either joy or agony. We know from her character that it's obviously both, and it's also a symbol of female power like Xena. Men don't have any significant historical tie to ululation because it's a matriarchal society action. i cant argu anythin cus i dont no anythin about uluation whee i know about xena! and i think that she used it as a battle cry 3nodding just a battle cry. there waznt any hidden reason behind besides "hey look! its me! whee " she also had a SHIIII-AH at deh end of it so that waz a little differant 3nodding You're the one who's missing out. >: 3 gosh durn firschtaken wikshumschnicker! i cin uluate whenever i want! evil *uluates like deh wind*
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Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 6:25 pm
Azhren Cory Shallow Azhren Cory Shallow Azhren WHUT!? eek thats sexist! im readin it now! evil it said it waz for happy or sad things that deh ladys did it for! evil or belly dancin. and when xena does it its not for those reasons talk2hand so i cin do my dying ostrich noise whenever i want yeh durn girl gaston talk2hand Actually, it can be argued that Xena ululates during battle to demonstrate either joy or agony. We know from her character that it's obviously both, and it's also a symbol of female power like Xena. Men don't have any significant historical tie to ululation because it's a matriarchal society action. i cant argu anythin cus i dont no anythin about uluation whee i know about xena! and i think that she used it as a battle cry 3nodding just a battle cry. there waznt any hidden reason behind besides "hey look! its me! whee " she also had a SHIIII-AH at deh end of it so that waz a little differant 3nodding You're the one who's missing out. >: 3 gosh durn firschtaken wikshumschnicker! i cin uluate whenever i want! evil *uluates like deh wind* Yeah.. Like the wind of a dying giraffe.
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FluffyWuffieBunny Vice Captain
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Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 7:35 pm
Is this copied from Wikipedia?
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Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 6:45 am
Xsmith Is this copied from Wikipedia? It's actually a double copy. I copied it from About.com that copied it from Wikipedia. But I'm also studying ululation because it has to do with one of the plays in my college course and can verify what was said here outside of the article resources as well.
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Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 4:00 pm
FluffyWuffieBunny Azhren Cory Shallow Azhren Cory Shallow Azhren WHUT!? eek thats sexist! im readin it now! evil it said it waz for happy or sad things that deh ladys did it for! evil or belly dancin. and when xena does it its not for those reasons talk2hand so i cin do my dying ostrich noise whenever i want yeh durn girl gaston talk2hand Actually, it can be argued that Xena ululates during battle to demonstrate either joy or agony. We know from her character that it's obviously both, and it's also a symbol of female power like Xena. Men don't have any significant historical tie to ululation because it's a matriarchal society action. i cant argu anythin cus i dont no anythin about uluation whee i know about xena! and i think that she used it as a battle cry 3nodding just a battle cry. there waznt any hidden reason behind besides "hey look! its me! whee " she also had a SHIIII-AH at deh end of it so that waz a little differant 3nodding You're the one who's missing out. >: 3 gosh durn firschtaken wikshumschnicker! i cin uluate whenever i want! evil *uluates like deh wind* Yeah.. Like the wind of a dying giraffe. at least mine dont sound like a blatter gettin run over by a car stare
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Posted: Sat Oct 25, 2008 8:23 am
KIDS. don't make me ululate.
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Posted: Sat Oct 25, 2008 8:24 am
sorry mama cory crying im right tho
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