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 Posted: Sun Sep 28, 2008 2:52 pm
“Beautiful music is the art of the prophets that can calm the agitations of the soul; it is one of the most magnificent and delightful presents God has given us”
“Next to the Word of God, the noble art of music is the greatest treasure in the world”Doctor Martin Luther In the history of mankind, music was everytime an important phenomenon. Many of the most awsome pieces of music was composed in the ages of Renaissance and Early Baroque. These epoche of music is called "Early music". This shall be a thread, in wich you can post links to videos or tracks including examples of old and early music. I think it is also okay, when you are posting music wich is later as early music, als long it is written before the 20th century.
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Posted: Sun Sep 28, 2008 3:23 pm
I will start with a few examples of sacred music.
Heinrich Schütz (1585-1672) (Lutheran)
Psalm 103 "Danket dem Herrn, denn er ist freundlich" (SWV 32)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xHi9-EIiXlI
The Nunc Dimittis "Herr, nun lässest Du Deinen Diener in Frieden fahren" (SWV 281). The Nunc Dimittis is a traditional part of the Christian evening service, the compline. Schütz composed it in a way, in wich the priest or the liturg starts with the traditional gregorianic first line.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFJk8sQZFzE
Claudio Monteverdi (1567-1643) (Catholic)
Cantate Dominum Canticum Novum.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLBTt-CgSRY
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Posted: Sun Sep 28, 2008 3:47 pm
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Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 10:56 pm
I'm not sure how fair it is to limit this thread to no work from the 20th century. There's a lot of neat music being written based on ideas or dances from early music. There's also a lot of work currently being done on folk music that's been around for no one knows how long! Bulgarian music is my current favorite biggrin
I'm about to start a paper on movements from two 19th century symphonies that are based on Italian dances. One of them is titled after a courtly dance, but from my 3 years of experience with early European dancing, it's most definitely a peasant dance. It's interesting to look at the ideas of exoticism that they had in the 19th century!
Also, I'm currently working on coordinating a music group to perform with the dancing we do at our fair. Right now it's just me and my tinwhistle, and I'm working with an amoroso (courtly) and the Black Nag (peasant). I really hope to learn the viola da gamba some day, or at least get gut strings for my cello so it sounds more period.
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Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 3:36 am
When the thread excluding workes of the 20th century it belongs to the rules of the historical archives.
The idea of exoticism is very a funny phenomenon through the centurys. A very good example is "Die Entführung aus dem Serail" and "Türkischer Marsch" by W. A. Mozart. He tried to compose a music wich should sound like traditional turkish musik. But his music has nothing common with turkish musik. But people in Vienna in 18th century thought this is the way turkish musik sounds like.
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Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 8:38 pm
I'm personally partial to Thomas Louis de Victoria. My choir has done a few of his works, including O Magnum Mysterium, Vere Langoures, and Ave Maria (no, not that one...). The man was a musical genius. There are parts of his songs that send shivers up my spine when we sing them.
I'm actually listening to a song by Gregorio Allegri, called Miserere, right now. It's a neat piece, with directions for parts of the song to be sung in different parts of the hall. The tenor part has all the solos, but the soprano and alto parts are both beautiful enough that I wouldn't mind singing either one (I'm mezzo-soprano, meaning I could sing either one).
Berz.
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Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 9:53 pm
I love Victoria! I have his Missa O Quam Gloriosum and Missa Ave Maris Stella on my computer, and I listen to them all the time! Ockeghem is probably my favorite, as far as Medieval sacred music goes though. There's just something incredibly pure about his music. We had an Estonian group, Heinavanker, come in and sing a bunch of his works a few years ago. Sadly I didn't have the money for one of their CDs sad Are any of you familiar with Anonymous IV? They're probably my favorite group when it comes to early vocal music. Also, I stumbled upon this a bit ago; it's one of the most amusing things I've seen in a while! It made the music geek in my very, very happy. Kaamelott - the perfect fifth
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Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2008 3:54 am
Of course, medival music goes trough, too. ^^ Every music is post- and dicussable if it's written before 20th century (the museum rules, you know?). Only the main focus should be on old and early music (wich contains also medival music). That video is great btw. rofl Another composer I really love is Thomas Tallis. Miserere nobis http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhHAojVyeG0Spem in alium http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vq5rXwWp8UM
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Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2008 8:28 am
MMMM Thomas Tallis is amazing! And it greatly amused me when he turned up on the Tudors series. But beyond that, I don't know much about his life.
And I know that it's 20th century, but one of my favorite pieces of all time is Fantasia on a Theme by Thomas Tallis, by Ralph Vaughan Williams. I can't remember which Tallis piece it's based on, but it's gorgeous! And our local symphony is performing it in May!
I'm really sad about having to retake 19th C. music lit, because I REALLY want to take Medieval and Renaissance music lit and probably won't have time for it any more sad It's starting to become my favorite type of "classical" music, because I'm working with it so much in my free time. I'm starting to get a group together with my friends to play the songs that we dance to. I have two of them written out already, but several more to transcribe. And then, until I can get a bunch of Renaissance recorders (my new instrumental goal, because that's easier than a viola da gamba), we're working with tinwhistles in the key of D, and I have to transpose everything too. It's almost more pain than it's worth.
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Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2008 5:44 am
Old Instruments
In earlier times music was made on instruments wich are uncommon in our days or the instruments we are using today has envolved out of these old instruments.
What is your favorit instrument? If you are finding an example how it sound or look like, feel free to post.
I want to start with a kind of bagpipe wich was used in the german and dutch speaking regions of Europe from 16th till 18th century, the "Schäferpfeife" (shepperd's pipe)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BDcxbm7HWE
The other instrument, wich I want to show you is the sacqueboute, an older form of the trombone, wich was used in the Renaissance and Barock. The german word for it is "Barockposaune" wich is literally translatet "Baroque trombone". It has an smaller bell, so it is not so loud than modern trombones but is has a more soft and harmonic sound.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tq7-4SSxP50
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Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2008 12:56 pm
My favorite early instrument is the viola da gamba (viol for the legs). It was the French version of the cello (which is an Italian instrument), and is a little quieter with a different timbre. It is a fretted instrument with six strings, which are made out of gut (whereas strings for instruments of the violin family are now most commonly made with nylon wrapped with steel). They're actually becoming quite popular again, and people are editing the design. My favorite band uses electric gamba, for instance, which is a gorgeous instrument. There have been two people studying it in our music program since I've been going here, and I would be up to study it next, but the instrument our school owns is falling apart. And unlike my friend, I'm not skilled enough to build my own sad Also, it's actually a bit bigger than the cello, which makes it even more difficult to haul around Renaissance faires. Abel - WKO 205 per viola da gamba
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Posted: Sat Oct 04, 2008 8:33 am
I think, I have an track on my playlist, in wich your favorite instrument, Rajani Kali, and mine (the lute) are united.
It is Track 2: Come again sweet love, by John Dowland (1563-1626)
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Posted: Sat Oct 04, 2008 1:35 pm
I think I have that song on my playlist as well biggrin I quite enjoy John Dowland, and I'm actually singing that song and Flow My Tears in my voice lessons currently. Who knows, maybe I'll have a recording of them to put up here by the end of term! I found his first two books of lute songs while I was in Korea.
I'm a major Dowland fan, but the only recording I have of his music is an album that Sting put out a few years ago of a bunch of Dowland's songs and letters. It's actually quite impressive, and I'm a fan of Sting as well, but I'd like a couple more good albums of his music. I found a recording on Naxos of a bunch of his lute pieces arranged for madrigal choir, and they're pretty amazing. Come Again is beautiful with 6 or 7 voices.
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Posted: Sat Oct 04, 2008 2:21 pm
Dowlands music is stunningly beautiful. I discovered Dowland just a year and a half ago. I found his music as my fascination on lute got larger and larger. And I have still to discover so much music by Dowland.
Btw. I really want to learn lute, so I understand your wish you learn Viola da Gamba, Rajani.
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Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2008 8:39 am
Can't really speak to Dowland, really, since I've only ever done one of his songs in performance (Say Love if Ever Thou Didst Find... which I can't stand!!). I do know a few of his other tunes quite well, though, since they got recycled into Methodist hymns, particularly Shout to Jehovah All the Earth, which is regularly a part of my church's services.
I guess his stuff doesn't really grab me much because I hear the tunes or stuff that is very similar on a fairly regular basis. It's all so... protestant, I guess you could say.
Berz.
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