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Posted: Sat Oct 01, 2005 10:43 am
This last week and a half has been...interesting to say the least. Towards the end of the first week of this school year(my Grade 10 year in a new school) I met a girl named Misha, and me and my best friend(named Andrew) quickly were absorbed into her circle of friends. It took a few more days before I realised there was something between Andrew and Misha, so I tried to hook them up. Another of Misha's friends got into the mix, and Andrew ended up having to choose one or the other. A week of indecisiveness(while I was pushing a decision from him) before he chose Misha, but didn't move on his decision. At the end of that week, Andrew spent the night at my house and we talked to Misha for a good 5 hours that night over the phone. I was shut from the conversation too many times, and I realised that it would happen that night. Just as things were getting really close, Andrew messed up. He said the stupidest thing and set Misha off. It took me only a few moments to fix it, and it became very apparent there was something between me and Misha too. But things kept moving as they were headed, and Misha asked Andrew out(I think...it was meant to be a private conversation and I wasn't allowed to hear). I was completely happy for them, and successfully managed to ignore the fact that I liked her. She wasn't so lucky. Three days later, she broke up with Andrew and told him she liked me more. He told me this, and gave me a go ahead. He turned completely philosophical saying: "If I can't make her happy, I should send my blessing to the person who can." I admired this in him...but it didn't last very long. The next morning I asked her, after being pushed towards it by mobs of mine and Andrews old friends.(not in Misha's circle) She said yes, and we went along great.(That was Wednesday the 21st of this month... About a week and a half from today) Then the following saturday, me and Misha went to a movie, but because her parents only let her group date, Andrew and an old friend of mine and Andrew's came along. As the lights came back on, Andrew saw us kissing. Everything philosophical about him came undone. He stormed out and punched a sign, dislocating his fingers.
Now I've let Andrew slip away, but Misha doesn't want to. Andrew and Misha are still friends(which makes me uneasy. I completely trust Misha around him, I just don't want Andrew to do anything that will make our friendship irrepairable). But I'm wondering if I did the right thing in peoples eyes. I have confidence in my decisions, and everything is working out, but I want to know what others would have done.
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Posted: Sat Oct 01, 2005 11:15 am
I think Andrew over-reacted and badly. He obviously didn't communicate his feelings well enough. While he did give you his approval, what he didn't tell you was that he probably did have a problem with it but for some reason or another didn't say anything. The fact that Misha is still is friend means that it's probably harder for him to let her go, even if she doesn't like him as much. Personally, I don't think you did anything wrong at all.
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Posted: Sat Oct 01, 2005 11:19 am
Thomas Neo Anderson I think Andrew over-reacted and badly. He obviously didn't communicate his feelings well enough. While he did give you his approval, what he didn't tell you was that he probably did have a problem with it but for some reason or another didn't say anything. The fact that Misha is still is friend means that it's probably harder for him to let her go, even if she doesn't like him as much. Personally, I don't think you did anything wrong at all. Thanks smile I've told him outright that if he had told me not too, I wouldn't have. But telling me I shouldn't now just isn't right.
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Posted: Sat Oct 01, 2005 11:29 am
-[Nero]- Thomas Neo Anderson I think Andrew over-reacted and badly. He obviously didn't communicate his feelings well enough. While he did give you his approval, what he didn't tell you was that he probably did have a problem with it but for some reason or another didn't say anything. The fact that Misha is still is friend means that it's probably harder for him to let her go, even if she doesn't like him as much. Personally, I don't think you did anything wrong at all. Thanks smile I've told him outright that if he had told me not too, I wouldn't have. But telling me I shouldn't now just isn't right. Well, yeah. He should have told you outright that he didn't want you too get too close to her if it would bother him. But it's also a good thing he's communicating these feelings now as opposed to bottling them up and secretly hating you for a long period of time until simply exploding.
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Posted: Sat Oct 01, 2005 11:30 am
I think Andrew should have told you how he really felt, that would have avoided this problem. To late to sort that.
I think you should ask him what he wants you to do. If you and Misha (I really love that name, I use it on another website) really like each other but Andrew isn't happy about it then I think you both should take things very slowly, especially around him. When Mish had the choice to pick who she liked best she probaly felt very confused and obviously made a mistake, but from Andrews point of view it would be hurtful. I think at the cinema Andrew might have felt you were rubbing it in this face, even though you weren't. If you and Misha stay together I think you should go a bit easy around him. He can't stop you seeing who you want, but remember he was your friend first and on his part he'd be hurt. Think carefully who you want to be more loyal to.
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Posted: Sat Oct 01, 2005 11:49 am
[CherryBlossom] I think Andrew should have told you how he really felt, that would have avoided this problem. To late to sort that. I think you should ask him what he wants you to do. If you and Misha (I really love that name, I use it on another website) really like each other but Andrew isn't happy about it then I think you both should take things very slowly, especially around him. When Mish had the choice to pick who she liked best she probaly felt very confused and obviously made a mistake, but from Andrews point of view it would be hurtful. I think at the cinema Andrew might have felt you were rubbing it in this face, even though you weren't. If you and Misha stay together I think you should go a bit easy around him. He can't stop you seeing who you want, but remember he was your friend first and on his part he'd be hurt. Think carefully who you want to be more loyal to. Feel special, you will be the first I tell this. I agree with you completely. I know that Andrew can't really control what he feels, but he's made some decisions that make me very uneasy, and have killed all the trust I used to have in him. That Saturday, he told me we couldn't be friends anymore. I took it in stride, saw it happening and let him go. Oh well. In a lot of ways, his loss. But the only reason I think that might be because of what he's done in the past, and the fact that I stuck by him even though. Now things go even slightly off track and he gets off. Mostly, I've chosen who I'm going to be more loyal too. I do want to ask how you see it as a mistake? Do you mean that she made a mistake by going to me? Or was the mistake being with Andrew first?
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Posted: Sat Oct 01, 2005 12:08 pm
-[Nero]- [CherryBlossom] I think Andrew should have told you how he really felt, that would have avoided this problem. To late to sort that. I think you should ask him what he wants you to do. If you and Misha (I really love that name, I use it on another website) really like each other but Andrew isn't happy about it then I think you both should take things very slowly, especially around him. When Mish had the choice to pick who she liked best she probaly felt very confused and obviously made a mistake, but from Andrews point of view it would be hurtful. I think at the cinema Andrew might have felt you were rubbing it in this face, even though you weren't. If you and Misha stay together I think you should go a bit easy around him. He can't stop you seeing who you want, but remember he was your friend first and on his part he'd be hurt. Think carefully who you want to be more loyal to. Feel special, you will be the first I tell this. I agree with you completely. I know that Andrew can't really control what he feels, but he's made some decisions that make me very uneasy, and have killed all the trust I used to have in him. That Saturday, he told me we couldn't be friends anymore. I took it in stride, saw it happening and let him go. Oh well. In a lot of ways, his loss. But the only reason I think that might be because of what he's done in the past, and the fact that I stuck by him even though. Now things go even slightly off track and he gets off. Mostly, I've chosen who I'm going to be more loyal too. I do want to ask how you see it as a mistake? Do you mean that she made a mistake by going to me? Or was the mistake being with Andrew first? *Feels special* whee If you've chosen that's good. But are you and Andrew not friends now? (Sorry if I missed that). If you aren't mabye you could call him or send an email or something just to make peace between the two of you even if you don't want to be like you were before. I ment she made the mistake going with Andrew first because she realised she liked you better.
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Posted: Sat Oct 01, 2005 12:29 pm
[CherryBlossom] -[Nero]- [CherryBlossom] I think Andrew should have told you how he really felt, that would have avoided this problem. To late to sort that. I think you should ask him what he wants you to do. If you and Misha (I really love that name, I use it on another website) really like each other but Andrew isn't happy about it then I think you both should take things very slowly, especially around him. When Mish had the choice to pick who she liked best she probaly felt very confused and obviously made a mistake, but from Andrews point of view it would be hurtful. I think at the cinema Andrew might have felt you were rubbing it in this face, even though you weren't. If you and Misha stay together I think you should go a bit easy around him. He can't stop you seeing who you want, but remember he was your friend first and on his part he'd be hurt. Think carefully who you want to be more loyal to. Feel special, you will be the first I tell this. I agree with you completely. I know that Andrew can't really control what he feels, but he's made some decisions that make me very uneasy, and have killed all the trust I used to have in him. That Saturday, he told me we couldn't be friends anymore. I took it in stride, saw it happening and let him go. Oh well. In a lot of ways, his loss. But the only reason I think that might be because of what he's done in the past, and the fact that I stuck by him even though. Now things go even slightly off track and he gets off. Mostly, I've chosen who I'm going to be more loyal too. I do want to ask how you see it as a mistake? Do you mean that she made a mistake by going to me? Or was the mistake being with Andrew first? *Feels special* whee If you've chosen that's good. But are you and Andrew not friends now? (Sorry if I missed that). If you aren't mabye you could call him or send an email or something just to make peace between the two of you even if you don't want to be like you were before. I ment she made the mistake going with Andrew first because she realised she liked you better. No, we aren't friends anymore. I did tell him I wanted peace in person. He pretty much nodded and left. It looked to me then like within a week or two we'd be friends again, but then Misha told me that he said that if even for a moment it looked like I didn't love her he said he'd "kick the s**t out of me." Doesn't look like peace, and doesn't look like the Andrew I used to know. I think I've done the best that I can for myself with the situation, and when it comes to this sort of stuff, Andrew never did me any favors, so I don't see why I should do it for him.
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Posted: Sat Oct 01, 2005 12:54 pm
-[Nero]- [CherryBlossom] -[Nero]- [CherryBlossom] I think Andrew should have told you how he really felt, that would have avoided this problem. To late to sort that. I think you should ask him what he wants you to do. If you and Misha (I really love that name, I use it on another website) really like each other but Andrew isn't happy about it then I think you both should take things very slowly, especially around him. When Mish had the choice to pick who she liked best she probaly felt very confused and obviously made a mistake, but from Andrews point of view it would be hurtful. I think at the cinema Andrew might have felt you were rubbing it in this face, even though you weren't. If you and Misha stay together I think you should go a bit easy around him. He can't stop you seeing who you want, but remember he was your friend first and on his part he'd be hurt. Think carefully who you want to be more loyal to. Feel special, you will be the first I tell this. I agree with you completely. I know that Andrew can't really control what he feels, but he's made some decisions that make me very uneasy, and have killed all the trust I used to have in him. That Saturday, he told me we couldn't be friends anymore. I took it in stride, saw it happening and let him go. Oh well. In a lot of ways, his loss. But the only reason I think that might be because of what he's done in the past, and the fact that I stuck by him even though. Now things go even slightly off track and he gets off. Mostly, I've chosen who I'm going to be more loyal too. I do want to ask how you see it as a mistake? Do you mean that she made a mistake by going to me? Or was the mistake being with Andrew first? *Feels special* whee If you've chosen that's good. But are you and Andrew not friends now? (Sorry if I missed that). If you aren't mabye you could call him or send an email or something just to make peace between the two of you even if you don't want to be like you were before. I ment she made the mistake going with Andrew first because she realised she liked you better. No, we aren't friends anymore. I did tell him I wanted peace in person. He pretty much nodded and left. It looked to me then like within a week or two we'd be friends again, but then Misha told me that he said that if even for a moment it looked like I didn't love her he said he'd "kick the s**t out of me." Doesn't look like peace, and doesn't look like the Andrew I used to know. I think I've done the best that I can for myself with the situation, and when it comes to this sort of stuff, Andrew never did me any favors, so I don't see why I should do it for him. I've seen this happen a few times with old friends of mine. Once they like someone of the opposite sex all that is important to them is that that person notices them and likes them. I think you should just keep out of the way of Andrew. If he's nice to you be nice back. If he's does something not nice then just ignore it. It might be hard but is probaly best all round.
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Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2005 2:07 pm
ok if he gave you the ok to go out with this girl he has to accept that you guys would do stuff like that... maybe you should talk to him about it
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Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 8:43 am
-[Nero]- This last week and a half has been...interesting to say the least. Towards the end of the first week of this school year(my Grade 10 year in a new school) I met a girl named Misha, and me and my best friend(named Andrew) quickly were absorbed into her circle of friends. It took a few more days before I realised there was something between Andrew and Misha, so I tried to hook them up. Another of Misha's friends got into the mix, and Andrew ended up having to choose one or the other. A week of indecisiveness(while I was pushing a decision from him) before he chose Misha, but didn't move on his decision. At the end of that week, Andrew spent the night at my house and we talked to Misha for a good 5 hours that night over the phone. I was shut from the conversation too many times, and I realised that it would happen that night. Just as things were getting really close, Andrew messed up. He said the stupidest thing and set Misha off. It took me only a few moments to fix it, and it became very apparent there was something between me and Misha too. But things kept moving as they were headed, and Misha asked Andrew out(I think...it was meant to be a private conversation and I wasn't allowed to hear). I was completely happy for them, and successfully managed to ignore the fact that I liked her. She wasn't so lucky. Three days later, she broke up with Andrew and told him she liked me more. He told me this, and gave me a go ahead. He turned completely philosophical saying: "If I can't make her happy, I should send my blessing to the person who can." I admired this in him...but it didn't last very long. The next morning I asked her, after being pushed towards it by mobs of mine and Andrews old friends.(not in Misha's circle) She said yes, and we went along great.(That was Wednesday the 21st of this month... About a week and a half from today) Then the following saturday, me and Misha went to a movie, but because her parents only let her group date, Andrew and an old friend of mine and Andrew's came along. As the lights came back on, Andrew saw us kissing. Everything philosophical about him came undone. He stormed out and punched a sign, dislocating his fingers. Now I've let Andrew slip away, but Misha doesn't want to. Andrew and Misha are still friends(which makes me uneasy. I completely trust Misha around him, I just don't want Andrew to do anything that will make our friendship irrepairable). But I'm wondering if I did the right thing in peoples eyes. I have confidence in my decisions, and everything is working out, but I want to know what others would have done. Quite obviously he didnt mean what he said about "someone else pleasing her if he cannot" and thats really his folly, not yours. This guy reminds me of Paul in the fact that he can say one thing and believeably, or possibly truly, mean it... but then something triggers old feelings and the grudge and the anger is on. Sounds like you needed to take it slower with this Mischa girl, too.. I would have been more tactful around Andrew, but that's your call completely.
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