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AvaJay

PostPosted: Sat Sep 13, 2008 1:22 pm


What is your outlook on karma? Do you believe in it? Yes? No?

I don't really know, I think I don't believe in karma, and I'm a very faithful Christian.
PostPosted: Sun Sep 14, 2008 4:08 pm


This belongs in the main forum. I will move it there after you reply to this.

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 14, 2008 5:58 pm


Oh, I'm sorry! D: My bad, I got confused as to where to put it. Please do.
PostPosted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 11:17 am


It's all good. Just read the rules for each of the individual subforums, and that should help. If you ever have questions about where a certain topic should go, don't hesitate to ask. 3nodding

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 11:19 am


Well, I do actually. If you do something bad, you will be punished, and God is the one who tells us that. If we do something good God will do something good to us, or for us. I mean, it;s a bit different.
PostPosted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 11:25 am


Karma, as defined by dictionary.com is seen as bringing upon oneself inevitable results, good or bad, either in this life or in a reincarnation; the cosmic principle according to which each person is rewarded or punished in one incarnation according to that person's deeds in the previous incarnation; fate or destiny. None of these principles meshes with what Christianity teaches really. The closest thing I could find was in Job:

Job 4:8
As I have observed, those who plow evil and those who sow trouble reap it.


Karma implies that some force greater than us is rewarding and punishing according to one's deeds, and that this punishment/reward system is somewhat directly reciprocal: for each good act or behavior, you are rewarded, and for each bad act or behavior, you are punished, but God doesn't really work that way. He generally gives a swift kick in the pants once or twice to remind people where they come from and where they are going, and the reward for "doing good," or living as Jesus commands, is eternal life. Essentially, there is only one punishment and one reward: eternity in Hell, or eternity with God, respectively.

Now, with the verse from Job, that is simple cause and effect, nature. If you go around causing trouble, it goes without saying that it will catch up to you, because that's how the world works. It's not fate, it's not destiny, it's not God- it's just the way things are.

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Fushigi na Butterfly
Karma, as defined by dictionary.com is seen as bringing upon oneself inevitable results, good or bad, either in this life or in a reincarnation; the cosmic principle according to which each person is rewarded or punished in one incarnation according to that person's deeds in the previous incarnation; fate or destiny. None of these principles meshes with what Christianity teaches really. The closest thing I could find was in Job:

Job 4:8
As I have observed, those who plow evil and those who sow trouble reap it.


Karma implies that some force greater than us is rewarding and punishing according to one's deeds, and that this punishment/reward system is somewhat directly reciprocal: for each good act or behavior, you are rewarded, and for each bad act or behavior, you are punished, but God doesn't really work that way. He generally gives a swift kick in the pants once or twice to remind people where they come from and where they are going, and the reward for "doing good," or living as Jesus commands, is eternal life. Essentially, there is only one punishment and one reward: eternity in Hell, or eternity with God, respectively.

Now, with the verse from Job, that is simple cause and effect, nature. If you go around causing trouble, it goes without saying that it will catch up to you, because that's how the world works. It's not fate, it's not destiny, it's not God- it's just the way things are.

I think God created it that way, that if we where causing trouble, we would get punished like that. THe nature thing. I mean, we have to realize that we cant go around and do what we want, then ask for forgiveness and be perfectly safe from punishment because we where forgiven.
PostPosted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 12:34 am


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Fushigi na Butterfly
Karma, as defined by dictionary.com is seen as bringing upon oneself inevitable results, good or bad, either in this life or in a reincarnation; the cosmic principle according to which each person is rewarded or punished in one incarnation according to that person's deeds in the previous incarnation; fate or destiny. None of these principles meshes with what Christianity teaches really. The closest thing I could find was in Job:

Job 4:8
As I have observed, those who plow evil and those who sow trouble reap it.


Karma implies that some force greater than us is rewarding and punishing according to one's deeds, and that this punishment/reward system is somewhat directly reciprocal: for each good act or behavior, you are rewarded, and for each bad act or behavior, you are punished, but God doesn't really work that way. He generally gives a swift kick in the pants once or twice to remind people where they come from and where they are going, and the reward for "doing good," or living as Jesus commands, is eternal life. Essentially, there is only one punishment and one reward: eternity in Hell, or eternity with God, respectively.

Now, with the verse from Job, that is simple cause and effect, nature. If you go around causing trouble, it goes without saying that it will catch up to you, because that's how the world works. It's not fate, it's not destiny, it's not God- it's just the way things are.

I think God created it that way, that if we where causing trouble, we would get punished like that. THe nature thing. I mean, we have to realize that we cant go around and do what we want, then ask for forgiveness and be perfectly safe from punishment because we where forgiven.

Well, the way the world works, one can neither be too good nor too bad without at least someone having a problem with it. To further Fushigi's point: it's not fate, it's not destiny, it's not God -- one's situation is a combination of your (in)actions and other people's (in)actions.

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Knatalie9

PostPosted: Wed Sep 17, 2008 12:58 am


I do not believe in Karma. Things happen as God wills it to. Not because of "karma"
PostPosted: Wed Sep 17, 2008 11:47 am


See, I normally see karma within the same lifetime. The 'what goes around comes around' philosophy. Now, do I believe that my good and bad intentions and deeds are being calculated by some cosmic force to dole out good and bad things to happen to me? No, not at all. Most people have a kick in the butt and look back down the road thinking it's retribution for that time they were being an utter [unkind phrase here], and sometimes I catch myself doing the same thing. I don't know how much of it I believe, or how much is just a phrase.

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Priestley

PostPosted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 5:35 pm


Then you get people who have an amazing life verses the people who get absolutely terrible lives. Where's the 'current life' karmic philosophy in that? confused
PostPosted: Fri Sep 19, 2008 11:20 am


Priestley
Then you get people who have an amazing life verses the people who get absolutely terrible lives. Where's the 'current life' karmic philosophy in that? confused

That karma, like the rest of life, just isn't fair. blaugh

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Priestley

PostPosted: Fri Sep 19, 2008 9:29 pm


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Then you get people who have an amazing life verses the people who get absolutely terrible lives. Where's the 'current life' karmic philosophy in that? confused

That karma, like the rest of life, just isn't fair. blaugh

*facepalm* sweatdrop

Well, at least it's proof against 'current life' karmic philosophy.
PostPosted: Fri Sep 19, 2008 11:03 pm


Karma's not a part of my belief system, although I do believe that our actions and the way we treat people tends to affect our environment as a simple matter of cause and effect.

Found something interesting on Wiki when I looked it up.
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The Esoteric Christian tradition, Essenian and later Rosicrucian schools teach it as the "Law of Cause and Consequence/Effect".[9] However, this western esoteric tradition adds that the essence of the teachings of Christ is that the law of sin and death may be overcome by the Love of God, which will restore immortality.[10] Basically, what you do in the past effects your future. Do good things good things happen do bad things bad things happen.

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Knatalie9

PostPosted: Mon Sep 22, 2008 4:50 pm


I do not believe in Karma. Because if I did, terrible things would happen to me all the time, constantly. You know why, because I am a SINNER, unworthy of the love of God, but yet receive it freely. No one on earth deserves the grace that God offers freely, yet we can accept it as a wonderful gift anyway. smile That cannot be karma.
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