|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
 Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 9:11 am
How many wonderful stories have a potion or a potato, a pea or a pomegranate that held some kinda of awesome magical properties!?
Here discuss your favorite magical food! And it's properties!
Mine at the moment:
Classic Magical Food : Alice in Wonderland's magical mushrooms that make you grow larger or smaller, plus the 'Drink me' potion and 'Eat me' cookie in the beginning. ((The Disney movie is a mix of the two books - Through the Looking Glass and Alice's Adventures in Wonderland.))
Faerie Food : Eat or drink anything faeries give you and you'll be their slave for seven years!
Fairy Tale : Hansel & Gretal's full on huge edible ginger bread house, I don't like the part about a witch living inside but I'd just push her into the oven anyway.
Personal : Coffee!
Discuss!
|
 |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 10:00 am
There's also the invisible/imaginary food in the film Hook, isn't there? It becomes real when it's picked up and either eaten or...thrown as the film goes.
Regular foods could be construed as magical anyway, even though they aren't. Sugar can make up hyperactive, caffeine keeps you awake, certain herbs can remedy illnesses/aches & pains etc...
That's a part of nature, but what about thinking about the things we would LIKE to have available to us that don't have notorious amounts of "possible" and potentially dangerous side effects? And what about the things that do give bad side effects, and what could be created in fantasy to have an adverse effect.
I wanted to have something in my world that's an effective contraceptive, without side effects and without modern technology. I thought up a kind of charm that can be worn or attached to the body, and even perhaps a type of potion or food (herbal perhaps?) that could be used as well. The charm would work indefinitely, but with a potion it'd probably need to be taken as and when you wanted to, erm...y'know *whistle* get it on.
This could be an interesting thread. cool
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 11:20 am
There is /was a plant that certain peoples used as a contraceptive, I learned about it in one of my anthropology classes. I can't remember if it got over farmed or what happened to it.
- Come one people!!
What about The Turkish delight in the chronicle's of Narnia? The books said it was addictive and made you all warm and fuzzy inside.
The unicorn horn- a supposed aphrodisiac <- <3
Then lets not forget the water from the fountain of youth.....
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 12:37 pm
We should have a look into some of these things, like the myths and legends behind them as well as the origin of something like the plant that was used as a contraceptive.
Look at this regarding that plant (great of them to give us a name for it) - http://www.pinn.net/~sunshine/book-sum/contra1.html
It's mentioned in point 5, but the next link gives it a name.
The Romans used it as a method of contraception as a matter of fact. It's called Silphium which was a member of the carrot/parsley family. The link mentions other things they used as well - The Straight Dope.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 6:17 pm
There's Lembas and Miruvor in Lord of the Rings.
Berz.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Posted: Sun Sep 28, 2008 10:47 am
I don't know anything about those. Care to explain Berz?
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2008 8:52 am
I don't remember Miruvor, but Lembas is a type of Elven bread that's supposed to be incredibly filling. "One bite fills a grown man"... or the little toe of a hobbit wink It's the food that Frodo and Sam survive on throughout their journey through Mordor - a barren land where they would otherwise have no access to any food.
There's a lot of food that we eat now that's supposed to have magical qualities and have been (and still are) used for divination. The apple is famous for this. Well, the apple is famous for a lot of things, and even before Christianity became the religion of Europe was thought of as a fruit of mystical qualities. The magical island of Avalon is also called the Isle of Apples. They've always had a very strong connection with knowledge. Noting the scarcity of apples native to Euphrates River basin area, I'm guessing that the fruit eaten by Eve wasn't originally an apple (it's been a while since I've read the original version of Genesis, so if someone could help me out here...), but was changed to that when Christianity reached Europe so that the ideas were more recognizable to those they were trying to convert.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2008 11:57 am
I think I've read Genesis once, and I "think" my Bible says that she was told not to eat the fruit of the tree of knowledge. I'm not sure whether it refers to the fruit as being an apple or not. I'll have to look that up.
I remember Frodo and Sam talking about the Lembas bread in the films.
No idea about the other one. Berz is the one well up on the Tolkien knowledge.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2008 6:36 pm
From the Encyclopedia of Arda:
Miruvor - The reviving cordial of the Elves, a liquor with the power to grant renewed vigour and strength. Miruvor was clear and colourless, with a pleasant fragrance. Gandalf carried a flask of it with him to help the Company of the Ring on their southward journey. Both the Dúnedain and the Orcs possessed drinks with similar properties, but miruvor was known to be the most potent of these cordials.
It's what they used to keep Frodo alive after being run through with a Nazgul blade, if my memory serves me correctly... which it might not be, since I forgot about that in the first place. *head desk* I'm being a bad Tolkien-geek!
As for the apple in Genesis, I'm actually starting to think it might just talk about the fruit being an apple in Milton's Paradise Lost. I know for sure that it's an apple there.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 5:01 pm
The bible doesn't say it was an apple. It is just referred to as the fruit of the tree of knowledge of good and evil.
In Hatching Magic, chocolate is sort of a magic food. It was the first thing the little wyvern tasted, and its all it wanted to eat.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 12:08 pm
Hatching Magic? What's that all about then?
I've never heard of it.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 9:07 pm
New Revised Standard Version calls it "the fruit of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil." Today's English Version calls it "the fruit of the tree that gives knowledge of what is good and what is bad." King James Version (ever my favorite!) calls it "fruit of the tree that is in the middle of the garden." I looked at Genesis 3:3 in each of them for consistency's sake. In other news, I own three different versions of the Bible. Never noticed that before. I thought two of them were the same one. Huh. At least the one I didn't know I had until now is my least favorite version, so I don't feel a particular need to put it on my reading pile. Here's a little bit from Wiki. Quote: In Western Christian art, the fruit is commonly depicted as an apple, (they originated in central Asia). The source of this apparently lay in a Latin pun: by eating the malus (apple), Eve contracted malum (evil). In other parts of that article, they cite sources that said it was a grape. Back to LotR foods... EoA covers Miruvor very well. Basically, magic Elven booze. What they used on Frodo after he got run through by the Nazgûl was an herb called Athelas (the Hobbits knew it as Kingsfoil) which was later used in Minas Tirith on Faramir, Merry, and Éowyn after the battle of Pelennor Fields. "Life to the dying//in the king's hand lying." Berz.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2009 9:55 am
Wow! Serves me right for not noticing this thread till now. Oh boy, is my head red? sweatdrop Too bad Fauxlorne isn't around anymore but at least her thread is. I had no idea about the faerie food, and I didn't remember the ones in LotR either. Weird, eh? I do recall the one in "Hook" mentioned by Mel though. I suppose that can count as being magical, right? I never read the book of Narnia but I did see the movie and they don't explain what that Turkish Delight is made of. I just thought it was some kind of food I've never heard of that was from Turkey. Go figure... I think I've heard about the apple in the bible somewhere but I didn't hear much about it. At least we have a discussion about it here... BTW, I don't think I've actually made a magical food for any of my stories. I suppose I should, huh? I can't recall any from the games I've played but I'm sure one must have some sort of magical food in it somewhere... If I remember one I'll come back and post about it. 3nodding
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Posted: Sun Jan 25, 2009 9:43 pm
Turkish Delight is actually a type of candy. It seems it mostly gets passed around in the holidays season, as that's the only time of year I ever see it. I think it was more popular around the turn of the century and on into WWII. But it is a real-world confection. That's why Edmund asked the White Witch for it.
Berz.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 1:19 pm
So wait a sec, then the "Turkish Delight" actually exists? I thought Edmund made it up to see if the Witch could make any kind of candy appear, even a made up one.
The thing is, since the witch didn't know the sort of thing he wanted, how did she make it exactly? I mean, did she just use magic to peer into his memories and whip it up to look like the real thing or what? Also, did she make up her own stuffing to make the candy addictive so that Edmund would betray his family? Or did she merely added addictive ingredients to it? This is something that I probably shouldn't even be thinking about, huh? sweatdrop
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Reply
