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 Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2008 10:36 am
I am about as emo as one can get, but is it ok to be Jewish and emo
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Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2008 10:37 am
Emo = Okay
Cutting = Not
So long as you're not doing self-damage, you're fine.
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Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2008 10:55 am
 Alright, for those of us not following the trend, what defines you as an emo kid?
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Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2008 11:30 am
Umm.... I agree with Domnu, As long as you're not cutting yourself like some emos and such, I guess it's okay?
EDITED: What kind of emo are you referring to?
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darkphoenix1247 Vice Captain
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Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2008 12:11 pm
Keep in mind folks, there's more than one type of emo. Someone who just dresses emo and/or listens to emo music, someone who acts emo (always complaining about how their life sucks), and then the actual suicidal/self harming folks.
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Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2008 8:14 pm
Yeah but the cutting helps relieve my pain (also I DO NOT need a shrink)
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Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2008 9:06 pm
Cutting isn't allowed...I just asked about tattoos in the information section and that was against rules because it was a way of making marks on the skin with a knife/needle.
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Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2008 9:07 pm
Was that sarcasm? o_O
If yes: Tee hee.
If no: The cutting is a problem. There are other ways of relieving pain, stress, or anything else.
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Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2008 9:59 pm
i am serious, the only reason i have not killed myself is because of my friend. Who convently moved away
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Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2008 10:07 pm
That's a problem.
Cutting = Not fun, not good, not cool.
Suicide = Uh, see above, just with more badness attached!
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Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2008 10:22 pm
well i almost got expeled from school which started meh probs
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Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 5:23 am
Not to put too fine a point on it, but suicide used to be considered a sin (murder). It is now seen as the end result of a terminal emotional illness -- something not to place blame upon, but only to be truly sorry that one couldn't provide help in time, find the root of the emotional pain and help to heal it.
Cutting, though, is an actual sin (albeit it is also a symptom of an emotional illness/injury). Leviticus 19, I think, tells us: "You shall not make a mark in your flesh in remembrance of the dead, nor incise any mark upon yourselves: I am HASHEM." No marking up oneself.
Emo: I don't know for sure what this even is, but from what I understand, it's what Goth would look like if it didn't have the energy or gumption to get up and put on makeup every day. It's the marriage of Goth and Grunge, a dampening and a watering-down of most of the person's positive personality traits. I've got a visceral reaction to this, which is "For the love of good sweet mike, please care about yourself a little more, and yet please, stop weeping all over me," but I have no idea whether it would be considered antithetical to Judaism.
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Eloquent Conversationalist
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darkphoenix1247 Vice Captain
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Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 6:04 am
Why do you feel the need to cut yourself? Causing yourself pain isn't healthy or right- unless you're a mass murderer at the age of 14, there isn't anything you could have done to give you reason to hurt yourself. Heck, as much as I hate murderers, it's stupid for them to cut themselves, too. Life can be tough sometimes, but there are also great parts of it. Look outside in the middle of a thunderstorm and marvel at the wonder of lightning and life. When it clears up, look at a rainbow and listen to all the signs of life in a much tinier ecosystem. Feel a gentle breeze on your face when the sun shines down on you. Concentrate on what gives you enjoyment rather than what depresses you. Don't do things that cause yourself pain.
I've fought with depression before, so if you ever feel like hurting yourself, please come talk to me first. And please, please take care of yourself.
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Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 7:11 am
I hurt myself today,
To see if I still feel
I focus on the pain
The only thing that's real.
The needle tears a hole
The old familiar sting
Try to kill it all away
But I remember everything.
So the consensus has stated that self cutting is generally frowned upon, but you use cutting as a way to help maintain your sanity and take away anguish, mental or physical.
Well let me be the first to tell you you can be a Jewish cutter. Why? Because it's damn near impossible to become unjewish. That and there is a loop hole that says cutting and scaring is allowed if it is therapeutic, however there are many more laws that state that you shouldn't do anything to hurt yourself or put yourself in a dangerous situation without regard of your own safety.
In short, self mutilation and intentional blood letting is taboo.
Taboo (N) : A ban or an inhibition resulting from social custom or emotional aversion.
Taboo (Adj) : Excluded or forbidden from use, approach, or mention.
Which raises a question for you Awesome Uchiha Sasuke, do you want to stop cutting and find an alternative to dealing with pain and stress or... are you okay with just cutting yourself?
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Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 10:19 am
Awesome Uchiha Sasuke i am serious, the only reason i have not killed myself is because of my friend. Who convently moved away I have a few friends who are former cutters. They would gladly talk to you, if you wanted to talk to them~
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