Welcome to Gaia! ::

A lot of my work could be considered abstract.

o.o Examples?

I remember seeing your work on many occasions but I can't think of any abstract ones D : Or meybe I am just having a mind blank, which is quite possible : )

well the probable main reason in why you seem to see a lot photography/realism/anime is because gaia online in general leans towards that. it's not an abstract community nor does it lend itself to be artistic much, in terms of various styles and techniques. it's kinda like going to a needlepoint forum and asking them why they don't draw anime; it's because the community is geared towards that one particular area.

i think it's pretty closed-minded of you to assume that a lot of people in general think that abstract work is finger painting. or that it's limited to basic traditional media. i've seen work that's pretty incredible that could be considered abstract. but it seems like the type you're going for is the stereotypical 'what the hell is this?' abstract art, and you're also lending to the misconception. and given at what the general age group here in gaia (if that's what you mean by 'a lot of people') they're not particularly savvy to that sort of thing.

i have done a few abstract pieces in my life, and i find it as different experience altogether. i did a piece that was supposed to resemble kandinsky's work for my color theory class one quarter. i remember having a hard time coming up with a concept or an idea until i decided to tackle it differently by focusing within myself internally. i spent two hours sitting there with a blank canvas stressing out that it was due the following day, because i couldn't think of a cool design or anything like that. but in the end i decided to throw caution to the wind and let my subconscious take me where ever and i ended up creating something in five minutes. it may not seem like much work but i think it was more about the process rather than the finished product...and it was a nice realization on having a different tactic.

i guess going back on having abstract be only for traditional media...i think processing and the demoscene can also be called as such. after watching my boyfriend do this stuff for a couple of years, i have respect for programming as an art form.

Processing links
-Processing.org
-Complexification

Demoscene links
-Pouet.net
-quick link to windows demos
-Scene.org

Oh and P.S Thanks for the links : ) I liked this Image the best ^_^

Why should I have to relay exact quotes and go into lengthy explainations for you just so you can 'think differently' about me?

I wanted others opinions on abstract art and posted this here because I happened to believe that people in this guild would be able to shed intelligent responses on their opinions of it. I didn't want to go into " HONHOES STORY OF TAYS LIFE AND THE SHITTY PEOPLE IN HER COMMUNITY" storys. I thought all that was needed was a brief and concise explainations of the people I have dealt with in the pasts experiences general thinking in regards to abstract art.

It was based on actual events e___e As I said, I just didn't think that you would need a page of MY damm experiences or OTHERS opinions that were unintelliegent and not really worth going into detail about.

You have missed the point of my thread.

Okays, I would like to move on from me 'not setting out my initial post' correctly.

So back to something more interesting : )

I in my own opinion agree with you completely when you say that the process and the journey of doing an artwork is a part of the art itself. Because although people like to create artwork that is 'pretty' and aesthetically pleasing to others, I believe that when you do an artwork it should be coming from.... for lack of better word, your soul. And an artwork I believe holds a lot more meaning when you have put your heart into a piece that is subjective. The one thing that I really loved about Kandinsky's work is that he put such great thought into what he was creating. His theory that abstract art could convey the same moods as figurative paintings I thought was very cleaver and how he delved and dabbled with music within his works. I found it fascinating when I was studying him, and I can honestly say that it gave me a better understanding and appreciation of abstract works.

I think that you can put just as much meaning into a cleverly composed abstract piece then you can in a realistic work that may be considered to have more physical labour put into it.

I admit I am not as well read up on Rothko as I am Kandinsky but I have come across some of his works in my studies, but as I said I am not very well acquainted with his pieces. Although I do love his 'red abstract' piece, which I googled to provide an image to encase you can't recall that specific work. http://www.public.coe.edu/departments/Art/rothko.jpg

But I do think that he has effectively used bright and striking colour. I like to think about what he was feeling at the time : )

i sympathize, i really do...but the only thing i disagree with (everything i do agree and can relate to at some extent) is just the mindset of the general public having the IQ of a rock when it comes to abstract art. i think every media and style and genre has it's own negative stereotype and that it's not just limited to abstract art. y'know like the topics you see posted in the art discussion forum where people get ragged on because someone thinks that drawing n***s is a form of porn or that anime isn't an artform or what have you. like the demoscene and processing and fractal stuff, and also some vector pieces; they're generally liked (even finger painting too!), and i've seen some programmers who do processing get hired to do that in music videos. and i've seen a few pieces receive daily deviants as well.

you can disagree with me on this, i'm not expecting for you to accept it. i'm just simply saying it for clarification on my part...i'm just one who wants to put a little more faith towards the human population.

heart

and i do sympathize to you guys at having to deal with that ignorance when it comes to your stuff. it's a rash generalization (to abstract artists) to simply think that all that comes down to to create abstract art is to make arbitrary scribbles and the like. it's the same line of thinking for people who think that anime is just about girls with big eyes and big boobs...they're not really taking the time to find out what it's about, and i think that's a shame. i think it's those people who have no appreciation for art and that their opinions should be taken with a grain of salt. or you can always look at the positive side of it, if you can make it look easy then it's something that you're good at. kinda like when dancers can make their movements look easy and fluid, where it looks like it doesn't take any work at all.

.
.
.

back on topic:

i like to think that abstract deals with the subconscious and what we feel. or else why would people bother to put abstract stuff to decorate their homes with? it may not be jackson pollock or whatever, but because they can look ambiguous, they help create the mood (i'm thinking more of kandinsky's and rothko's stuff). kind of like ambient music...in where you listen to it to not listen to it because they set the tone. truthfully anyone can also make ambient music, just hit a few chords here and there...but that's not what it's about. i think it's appreciated, but on a subconscious level to where people may not be able point it out as much as a piece with a subject matter that's easy to recognize (especially if you haven't been trained to look at things like that objectively). i've been in waiting rooms in where they'll have a big painting with ambiguous brush strokes...but done in colors of pastels to give a sense of serenity and calm. and even if people don't take the time to break it down, just having it there helps push that mood, y'know?

-evolve
-painting on balcony
-forces

or if i go to my mom's apartment...she's an architect and her hobby is creating a totally hip and edgy atmosphere in her apartment, so a triptych of vivid blocks of color helps create that. or something like this:

-the elevator got stuck
-tied to the kitchen chair

or t-shirt design or contemporary graphical art:

-tt
-if this party doesn't stop