This thread is to share that information.
Here is a PM I used to explain to a couple people the sequence of events that occurred to me over Wednesday evening to Thursday morning.
Daven Moto
Okay, let me try this again.
We discussed me taking over in 1st last night. I agreed, you agreed. I saw Jan on and asked him if he had heard from you. He said yes and that he agreed. That's a majority by the rules you agreed to in teh BSS. So I posted this change.
By that time, the nomination for 3rd squad had already taken place, and was ramping up to an approval. Tagg's vote sealed it. Wind had not been on for a long time, no note no nothing. You said you were upset that his ID and pic were taken down from the thread, and that is what we all thought was wrong, that the thread had been edited without your permission. But as far as the entire guild was concerned, 3rd squad was open.
You come back on, after I've been up all night dealing with moving forums, moving threads, setting up a new 1st squad, helping with 7th and so on. As far as I knew, this was a done deal. Then you start cursing me out for doing what I was supposed to be doing, being a Vice Captain in the absence of you. And I saw you online several times during the night, all this could have been stopped by you posting a message saying that you were stopping it.
I bet you didn't even look in on the BSS until this morning.
Then your "I'm taking 1st away from you" harkened back to the same freaking deal where you promote and demote Captains over and over. Bull had 3rd. He didn't need to be told "you are being demoted again". And don't tell me that you were promoting me to 0th squad, that's censure and you know it. They are guards, they stand around and look pretty, that's where you go when you are retiring and leaving the guild without really leaving it. That's not what I want to do.
So, yes, I told my friends what happened. when I stopped posting there was going to be a big Daven-shaped hole and people would be going "WTF", plus they needed to deal with you and your temper fit, and deal with the mess you were creating again.
Yeah, I had a guild set up two weeks ago to do this. When you went nuts, EVERYONE was trying to get out of there and I was willing to give them a place to go. But we all agreed that we would try again. You reformed just enough to make us think that you cared, and then you do the same damned thing.
This has been an ongoing cycle with you. Are you bipolar and stop taking your meds or something? That's the only explanation for what you have been doing.
So, yeah, I told them that I was opening my guild up for business, and guess what, that was all I needed to do. Here's the text of the PM I sent out:
Quote:
Dear guys
Well, what we all feard would happen has happened. VIK has lost it.
He came back online this morning and spent about an hour bitching me out for the promotion of Bull, the promotion of Tagg, and my moving to 1st. Now, he's demoting Bull and I'm being stripped of my "power" since I'm power mad.
So now, I'm through with BSS. It is a huge BS Society, and I'm not willing to keep putting good energy after bad. Time to move.
So here we go. This is the official invitation to everyone who wants to come. Recruit and ask everyone you want to come over to come to the Sereitei. This is a chance to redo the whole thing and to do it right. I'm officially opening it.
ANYONE from the old guild, please invite them and bring them over. I'll be on later to approve all kinds of applications.
I'm promoting several of you to guild Crew so that you can accept various join requests.
Here's the link:
http://www.gaiaonline.com/guilds/index.php?gmode=index&guild_id=2867
Let's build this right from the outset.
Daven
Not one person suggested we not do this. Not one person balked at moving. Not one person questioned why I was doing this. Everyone has said that I've been patient and you have abused me.
I've sweated blood for BSS. I ran the entire guild while you were gone. I did everything and people enjoyed it. You come back and things go to s**t. Why? You came back, that's why.
I did not make you go crazy and start abusing those people you claim are your friends. You didn't see the PMs from Jan AND kazi over the past two weeks about how you are crazy and losing it. Kazi spends most of a day getting you to calm down and then you do the SAME DAMNED thing the very next day? He was pulling his hair out.
This was inevitable. You did it all.
But blame me since you can't take responsibility for your own actions.
Have fun.
We discussed me taking over in 1st last night. I agreed, you agreed. I saw Jan on and asked him if he had heard from you. He said yes and that he agreed. That's a majority by the rules you agreed to in teh BSS. So I posted this change.
By that time, the nomination for 3rd squad had already taken place, and was ramping up to an approval. Tagg's vote sealed it. Wind had not been on for a long time, no note no nothing. You said you were upset that his ID and pic were taken down from the thread, and that is what we all thought was wrong, that the thread had been edited without your permission. But as far as the entire guild was concerned, 3rd squad was open.
You come back on, after I've been up all night dealing with moving forums, moving threads, setting up a new 1st squad, helping with 7th and so on. As far as I knew, this was a done deal. Then you start cursing me out for doing what I was supposed to be doing, being a Vice Captain in the absence of you. And I saw you online several times during the night, all this could have been stopped by you posting a message saying that you were stopping it.
I bet you didn't even look in on the BSS until this morning.
Then your "I'm taking 1st away from you" harkened back to the same freaking deal where you promote and demote Captains over and over. Bull had 3rd. He didn't need to be told "you are being demoted again". And don't tell me that you were promoting me to 0th squad, that's censure and you know it. They are guards, they stand around and look pretty, that's where you go when you are retiring and leaving the guild without really leaving it. That's not what I want to do.
So, yes, I told my friends what happened. when I stopped posting there was going to be a big Daven-shaped hole and people would be going "WTF", plus they needed to deal with you and your temper fit, and deal with the mess you were creating again.
Yeah, I had a guild set up two weeks ago to do this. When you went nuts, EVERYONE was trying to get out of there and I was willing to give them a place to go. But we all agreed that we would try again. You reformed just enough to make us think that you cared, and then you do the same damned thing.
This has been an ongoing cycle with you. Are you bipolar and stop taking your meds or something? That's the only explanation for what you have been doing.
So, yeah, I told them that I was opening my guild up for business, and guess what, that was all I needed to do. Here's the text of the PM I sent out:
Quote:
Dear guys
Well, what we all feard would happen has happened. VIK has lost it.
He came back online this morning and spent about an hour bitching me out for the promotion of Bull, the promotion of Tagg, and my moving to 1st. Now, he's demoting Bull and I'm being stripped of my "power" since I'm power mad.
So now, I'm through with BSS. It is a huge BS Society, and I'm not willing to keep putting good energy after bad. Time to move.
So here we go. This is the official invitation to everyone who wants to come. Recruit and ask everyone you want to come over to come to the Sereitei. This is a chance to redo the whole thing and to do it right. I'm officially opening it.
ANYONE from the old guild, please invite them and bring them over. I'll be on later to approve all kinds of applications.
I'm promoting several of you to guild Crew so that you can accept various join requests.
Here's the link:
http://www.gaiaonline.com/guilds/index.php?gmode=index&guild_id=2867
Let's build this right from the outset.
Daven
Not one person suggested we not do this. Not one person balked at moving. Not one person questioned why I was doing this. Everyone has said that I've been patient and you have abused me.
I've sweated blood for BSS. I ran the entire guild while you were gone. I did everything and people enjoyed it. You come back and things go to s**t. Why? You came back, that's why.
I did not make you go crazy and start abusing those people you claim are your friends. You didn't see the PMs from Jan AND kazi over the past two weeks about how you are crazy and losing it. Kazi spends most of a day getting you to calm down and then you do the SAME DAMNED thing the very next day? He was pulling his hair out.
This was inevitable. You did it all.
But blame me since you can't take responsibility for your own actions.
Have fun.