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Ophelia Belle

PostPosted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 10:25 pm


I've always wondered this, how one can lay down all their beliefs in a quick discussion. Astrology is such a big subject once you get into it, and without getting the whole picture sometimes it's difficult to really understand.

I also believe that mathematical equations are powers of the universe that not only make sense, they are the very fabric of which we live by (not something that LOOKS real for only one part, but not the others).
Some folks don't like hearing either of those things, lol. redface

How about you? smile
PostPosted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 5:20 pm


Ophelia Belle
I also believe that mathematical equations are powers of the universe that not only make sense, they are the very fabric of which we live by (not something that LOOKS real for only one part, but not the others).
Some folks don't like hearing either of those things, lol.

So, does this mean that you think mathematics is somehow the most fundamental constituent of the universe? Of reality?

If so, can I ask what you characterise mathematical entities as? Because there's an interesting problem within philosophy of maths that runs like this:

Theories that seem to give us a good account of what mathematical entities are, cannot account for how we know about them.

Theories that seem to give us a good account of how we know about mathematical entities, cannot account for what we think they are.

Basically, the problem is this: we think that mathematical entities (numbers, functions, etc) are abstract entities. We don't think there's any material sevenness floating around out there in space and time, the way cats and planets do. But, if mathematical entities are abstract entities, there is a problem of causation. Causation, as far as we can tell, operates within space-time. It is very difficult, if seven is an abstract entity outside of space-time, to imagine how we might have come to know about seven. We cannot interact with it.

Theories about how we know about mathematics - i.e. based on induction from past instances of us performing mathematical equations, or something similar - are theories about the events in space-time, about how we come to abstract concepts from our interactions with concrete entities. But such theories seem to suggest that the abstract entities themselves, should they exist, have nothing to do with our knowledge of maths - they might as well not exist. But that's not how we generally think about maths. We think that, for example, 7+3=10 must be a necessary truth, and that's why we think there must be abstract entities that make it true.

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Jessybelldove

PostPosted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 11:24 am


My beliefs are that Astrology is a psychological thing.
I really see connections how somebody born at a certain place time day ect can turn into the personality.
PostPosted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 9:46 am


I don't really have beliefs, but ideas because it is harder to change a belief than it is an idea. My idea is that people are born to fit certain astrological personalities which is why people are born extremely late or early.

TheLyelac1


Jessybelldove

PostPosted: Sat Jun 14, 2008 5:45 am


I think so too, maybe why I was born half an hour later to my twin brother.
PostPosted: Sat Jun 14, 2008 6:25 am


I also think that people are reincarnated under the same astrological identities until they get it right.

TheLyelac1


Jessybelldove

PostPosted: Sat Jun 14, 2008 6:53 am


TheLyelac1
I also think that people are reincarnated under the same astrological identities until they get it right.

I'm not sure about that one though... maybe...
PostPosted: Sat Jun 14, 2008 6:56 am


AHA! I knew I would trip someone up with that one.

TheLyelac1


Jessybelldove

PostPosted: Sun Jun 15, 2008 11:36 am


TheLyelac1
AHA! I knew I would trip someone up with that one.

It's not a case of being tripped up...
more a big huge invisible wall in the way, with some paint making a smiley face on it.
PostPosted: Sun Jun 15, 2008 2:27 pm


umm .....okay.

TheLyelac1


Ophelia Belle

PostPosted: Sun Jun 15, 2008 3:07 pm


I like that, that it's easier to change an idea than it is a belief. I've always said I had my own personal mutable morals and wasn't set to guidelines or rules.
PostPosted: Sun Jun 15, 2008 6:59 pm


I got it from dogma 3nodding

TheLyelac1


Jessybelldove

PostPosted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 2:18 pm


Getting ideas from a film?
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 11:44 pm


Jessybelldove
Getting ideas from a film?
:

Sure, ideas from another source and sorting it out for yourself, I think that's wonderful. It's better than following the crowd and not letting yourself find what's best for you.

Ophelia Belle


Jessybelldove

PostPosted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 5:47 am


Ophelia Belle
Jessybelldove
Getting ideas from a film?
:

Sure, ideas from another source and sorting it out for yourself, I think that's wonderful. It's better than following the crowd and not letting yourself find what's best for you.

I never follow anything really...
It's strange though, because it's like lonely... sad
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