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 Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2005 5:47 pm
Welcome to the Latin General Discussion! This is where we discuss everything related to the Latin language, including, but not limited to:
-asking specific questions about Latin vocabulary and grammar (people who can speak Latin fluently can help answer others'' questions)
-recommendations for Latin dictionaries, websites, etc
-and everything else about the beautiful langauge of the former Roman Empire! 3nodding
Please note that although speaking in Latin is allowed here, it is not mandatory.
Let''s start off with a few facts about the Latin language:
Spoken in: Vatican City
Total number of speakers: unknown; none as a first language
Language Family: Italic Languages (it''s the mother of French, Spanish, Italian, and others)
Regulated by: Roman Catholic Church
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Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2005 5:51 pm
WEBSITES general information on the Latin language - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latin_language http://www.demodocus.com http://lysy2.archives.nd.edu/cgi-bin/words.exe http://www.tabney.com
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Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2005 5:53 pm
DICTIONARIES/GRAMMAR BOOKS ETC Collings Gem Latin Dictionary - http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/000470763X/102-3288461-6924104?v=glance Cassell's Latin Dictionary - http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0025225804/qid=1125933496/sr=2-1/ref=pd_bbs_b_2_1/102-3288461-6924104?v=glance&s=books Wheelock's Latin - http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0060784237/qid=1125933569/sr=2-1/ref=pd_bbs_b_2_1/102-3288461-6924104?v=glance&s=books
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Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2005 5:56 pm
If anyone here has any other reccommendations for websites/dictionaries/grammar books etc, please feel free to tell us about them in this thread.
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Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2005 3:15 pm
Yay Latin. I'm a IV year student, currently taking the school version of hell; namely AP Latin Vergil.
Is anyone else taking this class? We're on line 70 already, and I'm going to try to translate 10 more lines tonight. I like the imagery and some of the phrases (namely the first and musa, mihi causas memoria), but where's the thing I've been waiting for? Culture, history and mythology!
Anyone in higher level latin? And does anyone participate in Certamen?
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Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2005 3:22 pm
Amadastor Yay Latin. I'm a IV year student, currently taking the school version of hell; namely AP Latin Vergil. Is anyone else taking this class? We're on line 70 already, and I'm going to try to translate 10 more lines tonight. I like the imagery and some of the phrases (namely the first and musa, mihi causas memoria), but where's the thing I've been waiting for? Culture, history and mythology! Anyone in higher level latin? And does anyone participate in Certamen? you learn Latin at school? lucky b*****d crying I have to teach it to myself stare not so easy
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Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2005 3:26 pm
Proudly_Jewish you learn Latin at school? lucky b*****d crying I have to teach it to myself stare not so easy Wheelocks Latin. Stick with it. I noticed you had it up there--it was the book my Latin II teacher used, and she was amazing. Had a Ph.D in classics and everything. Anyway, Wheelock is definately the best book to go to for Latin. I'm certainly not the best Latin student ever, but if you'd like some help with some of the basics, I do know a bunch of really handy ways of explaining things. They make a lot of sense, especially if you're good at math. If you want a way to sort of test yourself--there's a Wheelock's Latin Reader, and then the Loeb Classics. Now those are neat little books. I've got a few books of Ovid and Cicero's Catalinarians and a few other speeches. They're quite wonderful.
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Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2005 3:31 pm
Amadastor Proudly_Jewish you learn Latin at school? lucky b*****d crying I have to teach it to myself stare not so easy Wheelocks Latin. Stick with it. I noticed you had it up there--it was the book my Latin II teacher used, and she was amazing. Had a Ph.D in classics and everything. Anyway, Wheelock is definately the best book to go to for Latin. I'm certainly not the best Latin student ever, but if you'd like some help with some of the basics, I do know a bunch of really handy ways of explaining things. They make a lot of sense, especially if you're good at math. If you want a way to sort of test yourself--there's a Wheelock's Latin Reader, and then the Loeb Classics. Now those are neat little books. I've got a few books of Ovid and Cicero's Catalinarians and a few other speeches. They're quite wonderful. I've heard of Loeb classics ninja I use a book called Macmillan's Teach Yourself Latin in 24 Hours... it's not as famous as Wheelock's, but I like it because it explains everything in a dummy way that suits me sweatdrop Once I finish working through that one, I'll start translating short texts from Latin to English smile Hopefully within 2-3 years I can start tackling classic works 3nodding
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Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2005 4:07 pm
Proudly_Jewish I've heard of Loeb classics ninja I use a book called Macmillan's Teach Yourself Latin in 24 Hours... it's not as famous as Wheelock's, but I like it because it explains everything in a dummy way that suits me sweatdrop Once I finish working through that one, I'll start translating short texts from Latin to English smile Hopefully within 2-3 years I can start tackling classic works 3nodding See, now that's what Wheelock is for. The Sententiae Antiquae are classic works. And a lot of them are Martialic epigrams. That's one of the things which I really like about Wheelock. When you start on your 'short texts' I'd reccomend Martial, Catullus and perhaps a little of Caesar's Gaulic wars. Martial and Catullus because they're entertaining, and Caesar...well, Gallia est omnia divisa in partes tres, quarum unum incolunt Belgae...
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Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2005 6:03 pm
Amadastor Proudly_Jewish I've heard of Loeb classics ninja I use a book called Macmillan's Teach Yourself Latin in 24 Hours... it's not as famous as Wheelock's, but I like it because it explains everything in a dummy way that suits me sweatdrop Once I finish working through that one, I'll start translating short texts from Latin to English smile Hopefully within 2-3 years I can start tackling classic works 3nodding See, now that's what Wheelock is for. The Sententiae Antiquae are classic works. And a lot of them are Martialic epigrams. That's one of the things which I really like about Wheelock. When you start on your 'short texts' I'd reccomend Martial, Catullus and perhaps a little of Caesar's Gaulic wars. Martial and Catullus because they're entertaining, and Caesar...well, Gallia est omnia divisa in partes tres, quarum unum incolunt Belgae...lol... by short texts I meant kids fairy tales razz I'm not joking, either... I once saw this books on amazon... 12 Fairy Tales in Latin or something XP once I finish working through the book I'll start by translating those fairy tales into English xp
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Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2005 7:07 pm
Proudly_Jewish lol... by short texts I meant kids fairy tales razz I'm not joking, either... I once saw this books on amazon... 12 Fairy Tales in Latin or something XP once I finish working through the book I'll start by translating those fairy tales into English xp Watch those...We did something like that a while ago. It was Humpty Dumpty and it was awful. I'd stick to the Wheelock, and get your hands on a Loeb. They're designed to help with translation, Latin on one side and English on the other. Besides, if you're not going to translate classics, then what's the use of having the Latin to begin with? That's the reason I took the class. Martial. I'm telling you. They're fun, amusing and most of them are between four to six lines. Catullus I haven't translated, but he's the guy responsible for the word Lesbian, and he whines a lot. And apparently compares people to goats. Of course, you can get those Dr. Seuss in Latin, but...agh. It's not the same. At all.
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Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2005 10:12 pm
Latin sounds like a really nice language; I plan to learn it as soon as I'm fluent in French and Chinese...any tips?
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Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2005 10:31 pm
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Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2005 5:20 am
Amadastor Proudly_Jewish lol... by short texts I meant kids fairy tales razz I'm not joking, either... I once saw this books on amazon... 12 Fairy Tales in Latin or something XP once I finish working through the book I'll start by translating those fairy tales into English xp Watch those...We did something like that a while ago. It was Humpty Dumpty and it was awful. I'd stick to the Wheelock, and get your hands on a Loeb. They're designed to help with translation, Latin on one side and English on the other. Besides, if you're not going to translate classics, then what's the use of having the Latin to begin with? That's the reason I took the class. Martial. I'm telling you. They're fun, amusing and most of them are between four to six lines. Catullus I haven't translated, but he's the guy responsible for the word Lesbian, and he whines a lot. And apparently compares people to goats. Of course, you can get those Dr. Seuss in Latin, but...agh. It's not the same. At all. I do plan to get to classics... just not right away. I have a terrible knack of tacking my time with most languages >.< I did once translate one poem by Catullus, it was good 3nodding It was called Odi et Amo... have you heard of it?
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Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2005 2:09 pm
Proudly_Jewish I do plan to get to classics... just not right away. I have a terrible knack of tacking my time with most languages >.< I did once translate one poem by Catullus, it was good 3nodding It was called Odi et Amo... have you heard of it? Elision! I hate and I love--of course! I confess, I don't know the rest of the poem, but I am familiar with it, and the elision in the first line (the 'i' and the 'e'). If I remember right, that was a Certamen question last year. But, there it is again, what's the point of learning Latin if you don't translate the classics as soon as you can? It seems silly to me to be starting on Dr. Seuss in Latin, when you can be doing Catullus, Ovid, Caesar, Cicero. I mean, the Catalinarians are fantastic. I remember reading some of the latin, not sight translating, just reading, and the way it flowed was unbelievable. It's like a form of Poetry.
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