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 Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 1:15 pm
Ok ... I really want to discuss this so I'm putting up the episode discussion MAJORLY early. Do not read on if you don't want it spoiled. There will be no spoilers in this post but it will from the next post onwards! You have been warned.
EDIT: I'm changing this now, it's not a spoiler since the big spoiler was aired in the next-episode preview. ENJOY! Although, possibly major plot details are below, so skip down xd
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Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 1:36 pm
Episode 6 is known as The Doctors Daughter, so what a great episode it will be. I'll shove as much info in this post as possible! Synopsis The Doctor, Martha and Donna arrive on the distant planet Messaline, which is in the middle of an endless war. While there the Doctor meets the most important woman of his life; his daughter, Jenny. But as General Cobb threatens genocide, and Martha is kidnapped by the Hath, the Doctor faces an even greater battle – can he find peace with his own child? Wow ... next thing is an uber spoiler about the enemies, uber spoilage is white-d out. It is rumoured the Hath are red bubbles that communicate through expanding and letting out smaller bubbles. It is also rumoured one of them will kill Jenny at the end of the episode.The Doctor's Daughter is called Jenny and is played by the 5th Doctor's Daughter, Georgia Moffett. Some people think the episode title is a red herring, and that Jenny is: -Created by The Hath's bubbles -An Illusion -A Clone -An alien created her with the Master's (possibly ring) and The Doctor's DNA. BUT, since Russel T. Davies has said the episode "Does what it says on the Tin", I think it's safe to assume it's really her. The Judoon are rumoured to appear in flashbacks in this episode. Martha IS in this episode, she's staying with the doc. It's rumoured to be a sad episode. I think that's most of what can be found at the moment ... The Poison Sky's "Next time" thing may be the second-half-of-the-series preview, but it might be a preview for this episode, which I would hope for. Let's begin hoping.
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Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 10:04 am
Wasn't the second half preview when it was last year because of Eurovision, or am I imagining things again? In which case the preview this year it should be after the 6th episode. That would make more sense with numbers as well. Then again, the previous trailer hasn't had anything for episodes beyond the 5th one..it's all confusing.
I too will be waiting fingers crossed for an episode preview, not a 2nd half series preview.
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Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 12:20 pm
The previous previews have shown episode 7 (Unicorn and the Wasp) but it hasn't shown anything else, I don't think XD I wasn't sure when Eurovision was, but the earlier time slot might mean we get around Eurovision. I don't know what time it starts.
I'm inviting friends over next weekend to watch The Poison Sky, well, to play on the wii but we'll hopefully watch Sky together. Two of them are Who-fans (not Whovians, but fans) and one of them can't stand Who xd The other is not hating but not loving XD He forgets to watch.
Messaline is a planet engulfed in an never-ending war ... I wonder why "The Doctors Daughter" hasn't grown a TARDIS XD She has to be at LEAST half Time-Lord so ... The Doctor should be able to sense her XD
People will probably be all "But if she dies ... she can regenerate neutral " ... Time lords are given power by the people of Gallifrey, by looking in to the Time Vortex. They are given the ability to regenerate by a high-council type thing, thus the ability to get an extension of them (The Master had extra). This means it isn't something they're born with. Which means she's really not actually a Time-Lord ... just a blood relative of one XD She'll be whatever species The Doctor was in the form of at the time (Human most probably) and whomever he mated with ... I wonder if The Doctor can give birth ... Maybe it's Jack's love-baby and the time agency wiped both f their memories 'cause of it! BEST ... THEORY ... EVER!
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Posted: Thu May 01, 2008 11:31 am
From the latest Doctor Who Magazine biggrin
"War! What is it good for? Absolutely nothing. But try telling that to the Hath and Human factions on the planet Messaline, in the midst of a conflict that's lasted for generations. Legeond on MEssaline has it that, in the beginning, the Great One breathed life in to the universe, and then looked at what she'd done and sighed. That sigh, the Source, is hidden somewhere on the planet ...
No sooner has the TARDIS landed than the Hath take Martha hostage. The Doctor and Donna vow to rescue her, but movement on Messaline is strictly regulated. The surface is unstable, the underground is thick with gunfire, and life for the Doctor is about to get a whole lot more complicated.
The 'last of the Time Lords' isn't quite as exclusive as he thought. The Doctor's Daughter is on MEssaline, and she's all grown up ..."
Now, there might be some errors in that ... but meh XD I typed it fast without looking. The magazine also covers "The Unicorn and the Wasp" and the next two parter, "Silence in the Library/The Forest of the Dead" ... there's some really good pics. I'd recommend you to buy it biggrin
There's an interview with Georgia Moffett I haven't read yet XD
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Posted: Wed May 07, 2008 9:39 am
Not the clip I thought it'd be today xd Thought we'd get the acrobatics scene razz Instead we got this biggrin http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I9Jb64-61CwIt confirms it. The guy Jenny was kissing in the "Next Time" trailer WAS Chris from Skins! That makes two actors from skins in this episode, Jenny, Played by Georgia Moffett who also played Abigail in Skins (I didn't know this, nor did I notice they were the same, from watching skins ... just from the little montage of characters at the end of series 2 of Skins xd ) and the dude who plays Chris xd Nothing really else on teh website though ... not even a confidential trailer!
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Posted: Sat May 10, 2008 6:03 am
I don't really watch Skins (except the series finale, which made me cry even though I didn't know what was going on, and the one episode P h i was in) but that's still pretty cool.
This episode does seem to have less coverage than the rest (is that the right word?)
One last thing, from the fear factor:
16 min
Donna presses the xxxxxxxxxxx to each of Jenny's xxxxxx. The Doctor seems lost for words. "A Txxe Lxxy!"
Put that together with: "The 'last of the Time Lords' isn't quite as exclusive as he thought. The Doctor's Daughter is on MEssaline, and she's all grown up ..." And it kind of suggests that her mum/other parent was a Time Lady..maybe. Unless it's a term that's given to people who are only 1/2 Time Lord.
I dunno anymore. I'm too bogged down with revision to be able to think about it too much.
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Posted: Sat May 10, 2008 6:45 am
xd I think The Rani was just called a Time Lord, so unless Russel changed it 'cause it'd make sense XD Iunno. 4 hours!
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Posted: Sat May 10, 2008 10:29 am
I'm going to be around until my download finishes, but then I'll be shutting down my laptop for a while ... I'll be posting reactions as I go (or creating one post as I go XD)
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Posted: Sat May 10, 2008 11:30 am
Not impossible, just unlikely XD
So ... was she cryogenically frozen ... or was she cloned from The Doctor's DNA? Can't wait to find out XD Would make sense with the Acceleration!
DAMN! I was really hoping it was his actual Daughter ... If she survives it explains Susan at least xd
Anyone else drawing some sontaran similarities? The Hath and Human factions sort of clone in this XD I say sort of 'cause apart from the Hath, it's normal birth but ... plant like XD
Wow ... Jenny's a lot like Donna ... xd
The Doctor made me cry ... at least it wasn't Donna this time XD
Catherine Tate ... Womanly Wiles xd No way!
TOY MOUSE! xd Y'know what the Doctor's got? POCKETS!
So ... can Martha understand him ... her ... it ...?
Poor Toy Mouse sad
Not impossible! Just unlikely!
Almost cried at the death of one of the Hath XD Gawd ... this series is waaaay too emotional!
Uh oh ... Donna just signed Jenny's death warrant by inviting her along!
So, confirmage ... Jenny isn't Susan's mother XD
Hmm ... strange ... someone left the lights on!
Knew that she'd die XD
His "man who never would" made me cry again XD
"Always something worth living for"
So ... back on Earth ... Rose look-out time!
But ... but ... but ... SHE CAN'T! She just ... CAN'T! She can't revive! She CAN'T have time lord energy stuff ... SHE CAN'T!!!!! NO NO NO NO NO! Oh well ... she'll be back at the end of the SEries XD or they'll meet up again at some point xd IF not this series then in one of the specials next year!
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Posted: Sat May 10, 2008 11:36 am
Ok .. here's why she survived ... Sure, Time Lords are granted regenerative powers by the higher ups in Time Lord Society, but that power is stored in DNA ... therefore she has the Doctor's (sort of) DNA and has the power to regenerate ... BUT she regenerates in the same form ... with possibly NO LIMIT on her capabilities? But that would mean there's another Jack XD Well ... that's possibly why xd
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Posted: Sat May 10, 2008 11:37 am
OMG!! This is now, probably my favourite episode now! blaugh blaugh
The Doctor's daughter, Jenny is just soo cool! blaugh
Everthing about this episode made me laugh, cry and be happy, nearly all at the same time. xd
I can't wait to see if she turns up in this series or even in the next series.
Or could she even have her own spin-off?!
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Posted: Sat May 10, 2008 11:46 am
It was an awesome episode XD I doubt she deserves her own series XD
Oh ... this Georgia Moffet isn't the same as the Georgina moffet from Skins xd
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Posted: Sat May 10, 2008 12:32 pm
YAY!! Another Jack, in the immortal way!! xd sweatdrop
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Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 2:26 pm
The whole episode just made me go 'WHAT?'
That was basically my reaction to all of it.
I cried when the Hath who helped Martha died, even if I could see it coming *is slightly embarassed* And the 'Man who never would' thing.
Mind you, I think I was in a really weird mood that evening. I was half expecting Jenny to regenerate into Rose. Which makes no logically sense.
And yeah, I noticed the Sontaran similarities. I was kind of annoyed it was cloning two plots in a row.
Lastly, Jenny better come back. I don't care when, you just needs to.
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