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knightofthe21stcentury

PostPosted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 8:40 am


I've been watching all of the Doctor Who episodes in order from the beginning and I just finished watching the Brain of Morbius. I have been watching them in order with the help of a book called "Doctor Who: The Television Companion", and it says that in the scene where the Doctor and Morbius have a brain battle thingy, the images it shows start with Jon Pertwee, Patric Troughton an William Hartnell, and then go on to show even earlier incarnations. There were like 4 of them which means that he has used up all his regenerations and should be dead... What's with that?
PostPosted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 3:46 pm


Don't forget Time Lords can give other more regenerations wink


That's how the Master came back and that's how they can keep doing Doctor Who.

they mention this in the Five Doctors and they also bring it up slightly in The Sound of the Drums when the Master and Doctor are talking.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 3:48 pm


The fact that BBC have a way of not going with continuity. The Doctor was 941 years old back when he was beginning his seventh life. So, don't read too much into it.
PostPosted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 3:48 pm


Dyne Valentine
Don't forget Time Lords can give other more regenerations wink


That's how the Master came back and that's how they can keep doing Doctor Who.

they mention this in the Five Doctors and they also bring it up slightly in The Sound of the Drums when the Master and Doctor are talking.


Then wouldn't he have mentioned having been given extra lives when he explained the concept of regeneration to his various companions?

knightofthe21stcentury


knightofthe21stcentury

PostPosted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 3:50 pm


Triska
The fact that BBC have a way of not going with continuity. The Doctor was 941 years old back when he was beginning his seventh life. So, don't read too much into it.


He was 749 during his 4th life (If I remember correctly...)
He said something like "I'm only Sevenhundredandfortynine. Life only begins at Sevenhundredand... (Interrupted)"

Anyway maybe he just lost count.
PostPosted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 7:30 pm


knightofthe21stcentury
Dyne Valentine
Don't forget Time Lords can give other more regenerations wink


That's how the Master came back and that's how they can keep doing Doctor Who.

they mention this in the Five Doctors and they also bring it up slightly in The Sound of the Drums when the Master and Doctor are talking.


Then wouldn't he have mentioned having been given extra lives when he explained the concept of regeneration to his various companions?

He was probably was given the extra lives during the Time War just like the Master. Plus remember they didn't even talk about how the 8th Doctor regenerated into the 9th one(Which I hope they make a Time War movie/episode with the 8th Doctor).


Plus we all must remember the original idea of the Doctor regenerating was because William Hartnell was very old and they didn't think he'd be able to do it for long. Also let's remember at the end of the day that this is just a TV show wink so let's just not worry and if it is explained then great.

Also another thought. Will they bring back the Doctor's evil 13th regeneration from the series long episode(yeah for you new Who fans they made an episode last a WHOLE season.) Trial of a Time Lord. (6th Doctor).

As for the Doctor's age. The 7th Doctor said that he was 1000 years old on the 25th anniversary episode.


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JackLantern2020

PostPosted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 8:31 pm


when he was the seventh doctor,he said in time and rani he was the same age as the rani,953 years old and if their were earlier incarnations then they wouldn't be of the doctor or the timelords have been lying all these years and they have more than 13 lives. This would make sense because it would throw off anyone who would try to the doctor and such.
PostPosted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 11:10 pm


Much like knightofthe21stcentury said, there is a huge chuck of history we don't have. Whatever happened during the Time War messed up some of the timeline as well as the Doctor.

When Eric Roberts played the Master in the US Dr. Who movie, he was already out of regenerations. He somehow turned himself into the parasite thing and was able to take over bodies...which is why he didn't regenerate at the end of Season 3. He just went back into his ring.

For those of you who have seen the the first episode of Season 4 or the preview clips on the BBC page, you can clearly see who the new Master is; he took over said persons body after said person picked up the ring at the end of last season. (Highlight here for spoiler: Rose is the new Master.)

As for the Doctor...whatever happened to him during the Time Wars messed up his regeneration process. The 9th doctor (Christopher Eccleston) hinted several times that he was a bit unstable...but whatever was wrong seemed to have fixed its self when he regenerated into the 10th doctor (David Tennant). We will have to wait till everything gets explained later on in the season.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 11:37 am


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I wouldn't worry too much about it, afterall Doctor Who has massive plot holes all over the place.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 12:37 pm


He says he's 903 on Voyage of the damned!

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knightofthe21stcentury

PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 9:21 am


Lots of people say that the Movie doesn't count and is completely separate from the other storys, like scream of the Shalka. I think I do too.
PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 1:09 pm


Because, those wern't the Doctor.

At that point, many theorized that the Doctor started to win, so every visage shown after Hartnell actually belonged to Morbius.

As for the whole age thing, he was 900 in his sixth life- the Doctor says so in Remembrence of the Daleks- I think. Anyway, the Doctor was probably just going through a midlife crisis or something, and started lieing about his age.

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JackLantern2020

PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 7:36 pm


I totally agree with that I think when one side starts to lose you see there past regenerations and those last ones were of morbius.
PostPosted: Sun Apr 13, 2008 9:41 pm


knightofthe21stcentury
Lots of people say that the Movie doesn't count and is completely separate from the other storys, like scream of the Shalka. I think I do too.


Depends on which movie...

The Paul McGann movie co-produced by FOX in 1996 is counted by the BBC as a part of canon. This is backed up in School Reunion when the Doctor tells Sarah Jane that he has regenerated a half a dozen times since they last saw each other (in other words, he was at four when they parted, he regenerated six times, and was now on number ten). The BBC includes it. The series bible clearly includes it. It's canon.

Doctor Who and the Daleks and Daleks - Invasion Earth 2150 AD, however, are not a part of canon. They featured Peter Cushing as the Doctor, a human who had invented a time machine, and exist completely outside of the television story line. There was at least one book that tried to reconcile the Cushing Doctor with the television continuity, but since the books are also considered an expanded universe and not officially canon, that only gets you so far.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 12:21 am


The movie was made canon by those episodes in the third season when the eighth Doctor is drawn is Ten's little book. (:

and @ goddess_oraorchid: He's lying! He also says he's 960-something when he's in his seventh incarnation, which means he can't possibly be 903 when he's Ten. XD
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