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 Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 5:59 pm
Seriously though.
At first I expected Lelouch to be some tyrannic, uncaring criminal with the power to command people.
But as the series progressed, I started to fall for his commandeering (is that a word?) persona and his affectionate feelings for those around him.
I had not expected him to take into consideration how his actions effected his friends.
The twists and betrayals made the story so heart-wrenching so that when he erased Shirley's memories about himself, it was so tragic compared to his characteristics in the beginning of the first season.
Both of his personas enticed me and I found myself captivated with both his actions and manner.
In other words,Lelouch Lamperouge is so bad-a** Edit: After R2, Lelouch just became my favorite character of all time.
While I began to believe the control his ego and power had over him, the ending was such a heart-breaker.
This series was the first Anime to EVER twist my emotions in such a manner that I almost loved this anime for more than what it is.Idea/Opinions/Critiscm welcomed.
Explain why you do or don't like any characters or your thoughts on the series in general.
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Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 3:57 pm
I bet you wouldn't be saying that if we say the anime followed Suzaku instead. Really, Lulu isn't that great of a character. He's manipulative, and let his power corrupt him. At first, he did it to save his sister, but then grew into someone who would kill his best friend, not exactly the best brotherly figure huh?
At first, he had empathy for the people around him, but then grew colder. He was just manipulative, but he wouldn't exactly do anything to kill people. I mean "Thanks for the information. *kills*" Not even a word of salvation there near the end of the series.
Lelouch Lamperouge is the prime definition of "Power Corrupts" in my opinion.
Now, Suzaku on the other hand actually has a reason for being the way he is. Suzaku is basically a guy scarred by his past. Like the main character from Fate/Stay Night, he believes he has to do good to repent for his sins. If we were following Suzaku instead of Lulu, then Lulu would be portrayed as the bad guy everyone hated. At the end of the series when he went crazy, he just finally snapped at the pressure. He was already mentally weak to begin with, contrasting to Lulu who had a good mental balance at the beginning of the series, not so much afterwards, and then he just lost it completely which I'm assuming he regains after the timeskip.
Another series like this would have to be "Death Note" where the protagonist was the villain of the series portrayed to have good intentions simply because he was the main character while L was considered to be the "bad guy" because he was thwarting Light from becoming "god".
Sometimes, villains aren't exactly villains even if they do go against the protagonist. Some animes like to trick you like that ;o
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Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 12:11 pm
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Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 1:31 pm
I don't know who my favorite character is anymore crying
I thought it was Lelouch at first, but now I see Suzaku in a new light...
Well, I'd have to say that Karen and C.C are awesome, Euphimia kind of got in the way (if she didn't try to make that new area, she'd still be alive I think...), Nina scares me confused , Lelouch needs to have some refrain (not the drug), Suzaku should get over Euphimia dying, the Emperor of Brittania needs to reveal his freakin' name, Shirley is annoying, Orenji-kun's gone nuts sweatdrop , and Earl Pudding makes it all better whee
I wrote a very quick briefing of Code Geass with pictures (which I do not do well), and showed it to some people. They actually said that it sounded interesting. So far I can't get into in-depth conversations with them about the series though...
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Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 9:52 pm
YORUlCHl I don't know who my favorite character is anymore crying
I thought it was Lelouch at first, but now I see Suzaku in a new light...
Well, I'd have to say that Karen and C.C are awesome, Euphimia kind of got in the way (if she didn't try to make that new area, she'd still be alive I think...), Nina scares me confused , Lelouch needs to have some refrain (not the drug), Suzaku should get over Euphimia dying, the Emperor of Brittania needs to reveal his freakin' name, Shirley is annoying, Orenji-kun's gone nuts sweatdrop , and Earl Pudding makes it all better whee I wrote a very quick briefing of Code Geass with pictures (which I do not do well), and showed it to some people. They actually said that it sounded interesting. So far I can't get into in-depth conversations with them about the series though... Actually, It was. I think it was in a picture book (kill me, I love watching Picture Book 8.75 for some reason XP ). In involves a Plate with the name Charles Vi Britannia in it. Now tell me, If that isn't the emperor's name, then what the hell is it? on to the topic, I had to say that the Anime is well done, the only flaws was that it ended too sudden (ever seen an anime with that kind of ending?). Unlike "certain" mecha anime (notably Gundam SEED/Destiny), All battles have a meaning, and The Mecha design is awesome. Plus, We have an Anti-Hero , and a smart one too. The several twists in the anime makes it unique.Also, You have CLAMP to do the character design, so most of the characters there are smexy XD. I'm no fan of Lelouch sadly, I like non-popular characters Like Cornelia. though I have to say, C.C. is Kick-a** and so is Karen <3
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Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 12:45 pm
Aile Striku YORUlCHl I don't know who my favorite character is anymore crying
I thought it was Lelouch at first, but now I see Suzaku in a new light...
Well, I'd have to say that Karen and C.C are awesome, Euphimia kind of got in the way (if she didn't try to make that new area, she'd still be alive I think...), Nina scares me confused , Lelouch needs to have some refrain (not the drug), Suzaku should get over Euphimia dying, the Emperor of Brittania needs to reveal his freakin' name, Shirley is annoying, Orenji-kun's gone nuts sweatdrop , and Earl Pudding makes it all better whee I wrote a very quick briefing of Code Geass with pictures (which I do not do well), and showed it to some people. They actually said that it sounded interesting. So far I can't get into in-depth conversations with them about the series though... Actually, It was. I think it was in a picture book (kill me, I love watching Picture Book 8.75 for some reason XP ). In involves a Plate with the name Charles Vi Britannia in it. Now tell me, If that isn't the emperor's name, then what the hell is it? on to the topic, I had to say that the Anime is well done, the only flaws was that it ended too sudden (ever seen an anime with that kind of ending?). Unlike "certain" mecha anime (notably Gundam SEED/Destiny), All battles have a meaning, and The Mecha design is awesome. Plus, We have an Anti-Hero , and a smart one too. The several twists in the anime makes it unique.Also, You have CLAMP to do the character design, so most of the characters there are smexy XD. I'm no fan of Lelouch sadly, I like non-popular characters Like Cornelia. though I have to say, C.C. is Kick-a** and so is Karen <3
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Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 8:52 pm
What about Millay? Though she's not always in the spotlight, she's still very deep and well-made.
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Posted: Sat May 17, 2008 7:12 pm
SirBaka I bet you wouldn't be saying that if we say the anime followed Suzaku instead. Really, Lulu isn't that great of a character. He's manipulative, and let his power corrupt him. At first, he did it to save his sister, but then grew into someone who would kill his best friend, not exactly the best brotherly figure huh?
At first, he had empathy for the people around him, but then grew colder. He was just manipulative, but he wouldn't exactly do anything to kill people. I mean "Thanks for the information. *kills*" Not even a word of salvation there near the end of the series.
Lelouch Lamperouge is the prime definition of "Power Corrupts" in my opinion.
Now, Suzaku on the other hand actually has a reason for being the way he is. Suzaku is basically a guy scarred by his past. Like the main character from Fate/Stay Night, he believes he has to do good to repent for his sins. If we were following Suzaku instead of Lulu, then Lulu would be portrayed as the bad guy everyone hated. At the end of the series when he went crazy, he just finally snapped at the pressure. He was already mentally weak to begin with, contrasting to Lulu who had a good mental balance at the beginning of the series, not so much afterwards, and then he just lost it completely which I'm assuming he regains after the timeskip.
I have to say I don't quite agree with you about this. XD Personally, my favorite character is Lelouch, not only because he's insanely gorgeous (don't shoot me =X) but also because he has a more realistic personality than Suzaku. It's the fact that he starts out with a slightly emphatic personality and is basically forced to become cold and unfeeling to fulfill his goals that makes the anime so addicting. Honestly, if the anime was from the perspective of Suzaku, I would still dislike him and probably lose interest in the series because of the overwhelming happy-Care-Bears vibe. XP The thing is, I had nothing against Suzaku in the beginning. I actually thought he was very righteous and brave for standing up to his superior and refusing to shoot Lelouch. However, as the series progressed, I found that Suzaku's optimistic outlook and his "change from within" philosophy got on my nerves. 1, it's not exactly possible, because unless Suzaku gets to be the emperor he can't change a thing, and 2, the world wouldn't work that way even if he did get to be emperor. Too many years of racial discrimination and social Darwinism playing against his plans. I'm not denying that Lelouch is a cold, lying, manipulative b*****d. Lelouch goes through this rite of passage after he realizes he killed Shirley's dad in the avalanche thing. Before, it's like he killed, but it was impassively because he felt like that was the only way to change things. After someone close to him was affected, he had to make the choice to keep going or give up. Apparently, he chose to keep going, not only to free the Japanese people, but also to ensure that the people who died already didn't die in vain. I know it kind of sounds weird, kill to free, but it's the way the world works. No one is willing to just change the way they think and act without violence. Okay, now that I've kind of defended, hopefully, my outlook on Lelouch, time for the Suzaku bashing. biggrin Honestly, I hated him after Episode 20-ish. And even more after I watched the first few episodes of R2. scream Grr... In my opinion, he's a freaking hypocrite (in response to your "thanks for the information *kill*", Suzaku is more like, "I want to make the world a better and honest place... so let's start with turning in my best friend and selling him out for some Knight position! :]") and he's killed his fair share of people too. I know he might be angsting over Euphie's death and all, but hasn't he stopped to think about how other people might be feeling? Especially after he found out Lelouch was Zero, who actually killed Euphie to begin with. Wow. This is a long rant. XD Other characters I like: Kallen. biggrin She has such a double personality, but she's cool. wink I think I just like characters with double personalities. XD C.C. is cool too, although I think she's a bit too calm and collected. If Tamaki mouthed off at me like he did to C.C., he wouldn't be able to pilot a Knightmare Frame, or even sit down, for weeks. lol Millay is interesting too. XD Nina scares the heck out of me. Seriously. stare
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Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 5:50 pm
wow to make it short i LOVE suzaku. heart heart
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Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 10:13 am
Lelouch is not uncaring, he just only cares for his friends.
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Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 9:36 am
In the beginning I thought Lelouch was the pretty boy, you know, like almost every anime has.
But he was different. Not always cool. Not too perfect. Sad history. crying
I really like Lelouch heart
And Shirley is quite annoying. Episode 12 confused me though. So I dunno.
Karen/Kallen (still don't know how exactly to spell her name) is so cool. She's awesome.
CC is nice.
Nina is annoying.
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Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 2:43 pm
Splendid Paradise In the beginning I thought Lelouch was the pretty boy, you know, like almost every anime has. But he was different. Not always cool. Not too perfect. Sad history. crying I really like Lelouch heart And Shirley is quite annoying. Episode 12 confused me though. So I dunno. Karen/Kallen (still don't know how exactly to spell her name) is so cool. She's awesome. CC is nice. Nina is annoying.
Karen KĊzuki is her birthname.
Kallen Stadtfeld is also acceptable since that's the name she used when she entered Ashford Academy.
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Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 6:29 pm
SirSavian What about Millay? Though she's not always in the spotlight, she's still very deep and well-made. CrithMagi SirBaka I bet you wouldn't be saying that if we say the anime followed Suzaku instead. Really, Lulu isn't that great of a character. He's manipulative, and let his power corrupt him. At first, he did it to save his sister, but then grew into someone who would kill his best friend, not exactly the best brotherly figure huh?
At first, he had empathy for the people around him, but then grew colder. He was just manipulative, but he wouldn't exactly do anything to kill people. I mean "Thanks for the information. *kills*" Not even a word of salvation there near the end of the series.
Lelouch Lamperouge is the prime definition of "Power Corrupts" in my opinion.
Now, Suzaku on the other hand actually has a reason for being the way he is. Suzaku is basically a guy scarred by his past. Like the main character from Fate/Stay Night, he believes he has to do good to repent for his sins. If we were following Suzaku instead of Lulu, then Lulu would be portrayed as the bad guy everyone hated. At the end of the series when he went crazy, he just finally snapped at the pressure. He was already mentally weak to begin with, contrasting to Lulu who had a good mental balance at the beginning of the series, not so much afterwards, and then he just lost it completely which I'm assuming he regains after the timeskip.
I have to say I don't quite agree with you about this. XD Personally, my favorite character is Lelouch, not only because he's insanely gorgeous (don't shoot me =X) but also because he has a more realistic personality than Suzaku. It's the fact that he starts out with a slightly emphatic personality and is basically forced to become cold and unfeeling to fulfill his goals that makes the anime so addicting. Honestly, if the anime was from the perspective of Suzaku, I would still dislike him and probably lose interest in the series because of the overwhelming happy-Care-Bears vibe. XP The thing is, I had nothing against Suzaku in the beginning. I actually thought he was very righteous and brave for standing up to his superior and refusing to shoot Lelouch. However, as the series progressed, I found that Suzaku's optimistic outlook and his "change from within" philosophy got on my nerves. 1, it's not exactly possible, because unless Suzaku gets to be the emperor he can't change a thing, and 2, the world wouldn't work that way even if he did get to be emperor. Too many years of racial discrimination and social Darwinism playing against his plans. I'm not denying that Lelouch is a cold, lying, manipulative b*****d. Lelouch goes through this rite of passage after he realizes he killed Shirley's dad in the avalanche thing. Before, it's like he killed, but it was impassively because he felt like that was the only way to change things. After someone close to him was affected, he had to make the choice to keep going or give up. Apparently, he chose to keep going, not only to free the Japanese people, but also to ensure that the people who died already didn't die in vain. I know it kind of sounds weird, kill to free, but it's the way the world works. No one is willing to just change the way they think and act without violence. Okay, now that I've kind of defended, hopefully, my outlook on Lelouch, time for the Suzaku bashing. biggrin Honestly, I hated him after Episode 20-ish. And even more after I watched the first few episodes of R2. scream Grr... In my opinion, he's a freaking hypocrite (in response to your "thanks for the information *kill*", Suzaku is more like, "I want to make the world a better and honest place... so let's start with turning in my best friend and selling him out for some Knight position! :]") and he's killed his fair share of people too. I know he might be angsting over Euphie's death and all, but hasn't he stopped to think about how other people might be feeling? Especially after he found out Lelouch was Zero, who actually killed Euphie to begin with. Wow. This is a long rant. XD Other characters I like: Kallen. biggrin She has such a double personality, but she's cool. wink I think I just like characters with double personalities. XD C.C. is cool too, although I think she's a bit too calm and collected. If Tamaki mouthed off at me like he did to C.C., he wouldn't be able to pilot a Knightmare Frame, or even sit down, for weeks. lol Millay is interesting too. XD Nina scares the heck out of me. Seriously. stare
Starting with revolving around Suzaku, I think they chose not to do so because they want to squeeze in some school drama in there, and Lelouch being in Ashford is absolutely perfect for the job. I could be wrong, but hey, if people can make 5 paragraph rants, might as well.
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Okay, hopefully we can say that Suzaku has it rough. Yeah, killed his father, got it covered up, repent for sins, we get it. Now, you really can't blame his *quote* "overwhelming happy-Care-Bears-vibe". He's just trying to avoid future mess-ups. And he shows angst after Euphy's death. Though the way he expressed his feelings may not have been the best way, it's only natural to cloud decisions when you're very upset.
Plus, his inside-out approach is possible, under very specific circumstances that I can't think of right now.
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Moving on now. Lelouch, Lelouch, Lelouch. *sigh* He's such a tough case. Is he good? Is he bad? I can't decide anymore. Since the plot shows both sides of the wall, I doubt my outlook on him. But I admit my first reaction to him was 'darn he's so cool'. Where his loyalties lie were pretty straight-forward in season 1, but I think they got a bit confusing later on. Still, it's basically "let's get back at dad for screwing up my life" as well as "find out why mom was shot out of nowhere", right? ...right?- Oh, dear Nina. It appears that those expensive anger management sessions Schniezel has been giving you have utterly failed. You really can't get over Euphie, even though it's been a year, huh? *R2* And you even duke it out at Millay in Tian-zi's pre-marriage party? Shame. Karen is cool. Let that stand alone. C.C's...okay... I don't see much action with her nowadays...
The new characters are very hot. I love the Rounds, those revealed members of Lelouch's family (did you see the woman called Guinevere? scary...), and the Chinese Federation.
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Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 10:13 pm
For those who watched Episodes 16-18, any thoughts on Mao? I think that even without |[ the voices he hears because of his Geas]|, he'd still be one crazy motherf***er. Still, the way Lelouch finally beat him was f***ing brilliant. Who'd ever thought he'd |[ use his Geas on himself with a mirror to make him forget he told Suzaku to disarm the bomb threatining Nunally, so that Mao couldn't read his mind with his Geas and so he didn't know the bomb was already disarmed?]| That was f***ing geinus!
|[Don't read anything between these marks unless you have seen thru ep. 18! (esxcept this message, of course). Don't say I didn't warn you...]|
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Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 5:07 pm
I'd just like to say one thing:
Nina seriously needs to die, and anytime during Season 2 is fine by me. Preferably from a FLEIJA that was conveniently misfired in her direction.
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