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ladycrotalus

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 7:57 am


WHAT IS THE POINT OF HAVING A PET IF YOU AREN'T GOING TO GIVE IT WHAT IT NEEDS TO THRIVE AND BE HAPPY?????
Goldfish grow to 8-24 inches depending on variety and have lifespans of 20-30 yrs.
They have longer memories then what was thought, thanks to Adam and Jaime from the show Mythbusters. They actually are pretty intelligent, ive seen videos of this guy training his goldfish to put a tiny soccerball in an underwater net. They definatly learn to recognize their care givers. Yet ignorant pieces of crap think of them as "just fish". Those are the ones who should be banned from owning any pet. Its not just them their way of thinking gets passed down to their children. They are unknowingly or sometimes knowingly teaching their kids that animals are disposible objects, unfeeling, unthinking decorations. Just because their is a picture on a box or their parents did it or a bad petstore told them that its ok to cram the fish in a tiny bowl or tiny desktop aquarium, that it is ok. The poor goldfish's gills and fins burning and rotting off because of the high ammonia in the tiny toilet of a bowl or tank. And when that fish finally succumbs to the neglect and abuse, another victim takes its place, continuing the unrelenting cycle of animal cruelty.
Goldfish 3 inches and smaller NEED 10 gallons PER fish with alot of filtration and weekly 25 percent partial waterchanges where the gravel is vacumed thoroughly with a siphon. Never drain the water past 50 percent. An aquarium is a closed system, dissolved organics (which are INVISIBLE) MEED to be regularly removed. Smaller more frequent waterchanges are healthier for the fish then infrequent larger waterchanges. Obviously a goldfish that is larger then 3 inches will need a bigger tank then a 10 gallon.


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http://www.goldfishparadise.com/care/care.php

http://www.peteducation.com/article.cfm?cls=16&cat=1922&articleid=2650

http://www.mu.edu/~buxtoni/puregold/home.html

http://www.goldfishinfo.com/setup1.htm

http://www.fishpondinfo.com/gfish.htm

http://www.thegab.org/Articles/GoldfishBasics.html

We would probably have a shot at correcting people's beliefs about goldfish if:
a) the media wasn't continuously portraying tv and movie characters as having goldfish in a bowl. You don't see beloved characters beating their dogs, do you? And yet Elmo must go through many goldfish... Interesting...
b) the more commercialized aquaria companies didn't continually show goldfish in their 3g Spongebob tanks or fancy globe tanks. Let's take a look through the aquarium brands available at Petsmart.com that do this (we'll just look for golfish to make this easier)
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Aquascene
Marina
Eclipse
BiOrb
AllGlass
Uncle Milton
Uncle Milton Again (on the box it says great for goldfish)

c) So many petstore employees weren't circulating bad information to make a sale

Goldfish are just a prime example of bad information on fish circulated in our society. There are also media portrayals of other fish like gouramis and livebearers, etc in too-small tanks.

FYI: Goldfish Bowls have been BANNED in Rome.
PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2008 3:09 pm


It's such a shame that so many pet stores tell lies like that just to make a sale. Where I work, you would get fired if you sold someone a goldfish for a tiny bowl.

Btw, Uncle Milton makes aquariums? Since when?

EDIT: I looked at their site. OH DEAR GOD.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 05, 2009 5:51 pm


One thing is Goldfish DO NOT get to 24". The worlds biggest goldfish isn't even that big! They get more of 6"-14". That's why I don't keep goldfish in my virtual aquarium (lol. Just kidding). My dad thinks that fish "only get as big as thier tanks". No...
PostPosted: Wed Jul 15, 2009 1:53 pm


that is a big fish....I wonder how old bruce is

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 07, 2010 6:19 am


My goldfish is in about 1gallon of water and it seems fine. Yes I do weekly water changes but not with a siphon. I do have one though, and May start using it. The water has no filtration system, but it really is not as bad as you think. Many fish, even tropical or salt water, can survive and be comfortable if the water pollutes slowly. They adapt and learn to manage the poor water. I do agree water changes are necessary, but for a gold fish I do not think that a $20-$40 filter, a reasonable price for a 10 gallon tank, and a 10 gallon tank, which is huge, is necessary.

Even for fragile tropical fish, they don't need more than 1 gallon per 1inch of fish. I think this you are being over protective, which is not a bad thing. The fish will only enjoy the extra care.
PostPosted: Sun Mar 07, 2010 9:19 am


zabazor
My goldfish is in about 1gallon of water and it seems fine. Yes I do weekly water changes but not with a siphon. I do have one though, and May start using it. The water has no filtration system, but it really is not as bad as you think. Many fish, even tropical or salt water, can survive and be comfortable if the water pollutes slowly. They adapt and learn to manage the poor water. I do agree water changes are necessary, but for a gold fish I do not think that a $20-$40 filter, a reasonable price for a 10 gallon tank, and a 10 gallon tank, which is huge, is necessary.

Even for fragile tropical fish, they don't need more than 1 gallon per 1inch of fish. I think this you are being over protective, which is not a bad thing. The fish will only enjoy the extra care.



You are entirely wrong. Guess what's going to happen to your goldfish? The dissolved organic wastes are going to send a signal to the body to stop growing because there's not enough room. So it's body will stop growing, but it's organs will keep growing. Eventually, this will cause organ failure, but not before it causes your pet a lot of pain. Your fish is in no way comfortable and will not "adapt" to your bad water quality.

1 inch per gallon is false. Each type of fish has a certain amount of gallons minimum that it can healthily survive in.

If you cannot buy the appropriate supplies for your pet, you should never have gotten it. Would you buy a dog if you had to keep it in a crate that was smaller than the dog would be fully grown?

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