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PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 1:30 pm


I'm going to take my speech notes here as opposed to a word document so I can get gold and stuff.
PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 1:44 pm


Lenin:

One name (Hitler, Castro, Lenin, Stalin) You can't have a name like anyone else's, or have it be more than two syllables, or people will forget it easily. (~3)

Change your past to fit your ideals/intents.
(p. 4) "The future Lenin, like so many of his compatriots, was said to be of very humble, or even serf, origin, living in a family that was certainly affectionate but whose difficulties from the outset impelled the children to understand the world in which they were growing up and to reject it.

Legend and reality did not match."

(p.5) "...Ilya Nikolaievich, Lenin's father, studied at the University of Kazan, and then, as we have seen was a teacher, a school inspector, and was finally promoted to the rank of state counselor, which meant that he had acceded to the status of hereditary noble."

Lenin by Helene Carrere d'Encausse, translated by George Holoch

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 1:50 pm


Still Lenin:

Might be important later
(p. 6) " Certain characteristics stand out from this apparently complicated geneology, most notably the national and religious diversity so similar to that of the empire. In Lenin Russian, Kalmuk, German, and Swedish ancestry mingled. He was the heir of varied religious and cultural traditions: Orthodoxy, Judaism, Protestantism, and, in the background, the Buddhism of his Kalmuk ancestors."
PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 2:02 pm


Lenin:

Might be important later
(p.7) "Alexander Ulyanov {Brother to Lenin}, who was in the process of writing his thesis on spider crabs, was one of the authors of violent proclamations calling for an uprising. But the police were on the alert, discovered the plot, and arrested the principal conspirators. The program drawn up by Ulyanov, the science student, demanded nationalization of the land and of businesses and the establishment of democracy. The czar commented "this is the same as the Paris Commune""

Wiki "Paris Commune" later.

Same page:
"Fifteen of the indicted were tried by the special tribunal of the Senate; all were sentenced to death, but ten of them were reprieved in the end. If Alexander Ulyanov was not, this was because in the course of the trial, he proudly proclaimed his responsibility, thereby lessening that of his fellow conspirators...."

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 2:21 pm


Lenin:
(p.11)

Eyes?

"...his remarkable and disconcerting eyes. He had a gaze that was too sharp, too insistent, eyes of an indefinable color, the "gaze of a wolf" said some."

Conversion?
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 2:26 pm


Religion?
p.13
"Not only did the wedding take place, but at the insistence of Krupskaya's mother, it was a religious wedding, following the Orthodox rite into which bride and groom had been baptized a quarter-century earlier. The contempt in which Marxists held religion seemed not to trouble the couple, who conformed to tradition without protest."

Still Lenin

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 6:11 pm


Napoleon
Birthplace outside
p.1 "Born...at Ajaccio on the island of Corsica. It is a paradox that this man who thought in terms of conquering entire continents should have had his life bounded by three islands: Corsica, less than half the size of Wales, no bigger than Vermont; Elba, much smaller where a parody of his glory was enacted; and Saint Helena, a mere speck on the ocean, his death-prison."
PostPosted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 6:18 pm


Napoleon
Birthplace outside

p.2 "It was poor, wild, neglected, exploited, politically and economically insignificant"

"For Genoa, this was the last straw, and in 1768 sold the entire island to France by treaty, in return for a paltry sum. This was a critical event for Bonaparte for, born the next year, he automatically became a French citizen."

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 6:30 pm


Napoleon
Picking up the ideas of others
(Hitler - Nietzche, Stalin/Lenin - Marx?, Kim Jong Il - Kim Il Sung)

p.3
"In his Du contrat social (1762), Jean-Jacques Rousseau remarked that, while government corruption was universal in Europe, one tiny country was still capable of legislating against it, in a spirit of primitive simplicity. That was Corsica, he added that he had a presentiment that this island of nature would one day astonish Europe...

Nevermind, forget this one. I don't like it, not specific enough.
PostPosted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 5:51 pm


Stalin (Stalin)
p.4
"...Stalin arranged for weightier claims to be made on his behalf. Approved biographies appeared, each more hagiographical than the previous one. In 1938, a grandiose account was published, written by Party Central Committee stooges and anonymously edited by Stalin. The chapters represented him as the contemporary genius of world communism; and the growing tendency was to depict him as the equal of Lenin as party leader, exponent of Marxist theory and global statesman."

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 6:00 pm


p.21 Stalin
"It was only in retrospect that the cocktail of permanent harm to his personality became detectable. He was mistreated by his father, and detested him. At the same time his mother handled him as a very special person; much was expected of him."
PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 6:17 pm


Religion
p.23
"Although he desired to become a priest, he also wished to prove his toughness."
{Hitler = monk?}

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 6:33 pm


Changing language
p. 23 Stalin
"Joseph took time to benefit fully from his educational opportunity. Not having spoken Russian at home, he stayed in the prepatory classes for two years. But he proved a quick learner and already knew enough of the language to leap over the beginners' class."
PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 3:46 pm


p.27 Stalin

"Georgian popular culture had a broad emphasis on honor. This involved loyalty to family, friends and clients. Joseph by contrast felt no lasting obligation to anybody. He was later to execute in-laws, veteran fellow leaders, and whole groups of communists whose patron he had been."

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 4:00 pm


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