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 Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 5:48 pm
I am curious as to what everyone's opinion on the real point of being a Christian is. so what is it? is it to get your fire insurance? the rest of the benefits? someone to cry to when things go bad? someone to blame? someone to share a deep meaningful relationship with? something you do because its just 'the right thing to do'? something you felt funny about and wanted to make the funny feeling go away? something that everyone else was doing? something your parents pressured you into? something you think is real but you aren't sure? something you believe in with all your heart? or... idk what is it to u? plz talk.I would like to know all of your opinions.
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Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 3:34 pm
Being a Christian means having a relationship with God. Knowing someone is always there through hard or joyful times. Someone who knows you the best and can listen at any moment. God is my ultimate best friend and my heart beats faster when I am closer to him. I am so thankful to him and we all should be.
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Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 4:01 pm
Leafayette Being a Christian means having a relationship with God. Knowing someone is always there through hard or joyful times. Someone who knows you the best and can listen at any moment. God is my ultimate best friend and my heart beats faster when I am closer to him. I am so thankful to him and we all should be. yay! im not the only one that knows that! where i used to go to church i never heard anything about the relationship specifically and its taken me a while to realize that what its about but no one thats not nondenominational that i talk to seems to kno that. its really kinda sad.
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Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 7:37 pm
To me, it seems that those of a denomination don't seem to know that being a Christian is loving God in a relationship and glorifying Him in your everyday lifestyle. To them, it's just a religion.
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Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 8:47 pm
Why did you put those choices up there when no one is going to choose them?
To me, Christianity is my rock, my lifeline. It saved my life, so I'm going to live it that way.
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Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 7:51 pm
It's really just another religion. You have your sacred doctrine to follow and precepts and all of that. Alot of people(church going christians) say it's having a close relationship with GOD, which I'm not quite sure how they got that out of the Bible seeing as though it's like if you don't obey what GOD says your automatically not his friend. That to me seems more like some sort of conditional friendship, and seeing as though If you don't do what he says and something bad happens to you, it's more like a dictatorships. Although so things he ask you to "obey him" in are just common sense like don't drink to drunkenness or be lazy, so I suppose some f what he "commands" isn't entirely without perks.
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Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 8:06 pm
Wait. You're saying God gives some sort of conditional love? It's not that God won't be your friend anymore if you don't obey Him. You can always call on him for help and guidance. He cares for you. First of all, He loves you, and He created you. Secondly, if you are a child of God, it is your decision to ask forgiveness from God if you want to get CLOSER to Him. Thirdly, before you obey God's commands, believe that He loves you so much that He set those standards for you to protect you, 'cause this world will only lead you to destruction without God's help.
Just remember: Love God with all your heart. Grow closer to Him and get intimate with the Holy Spirit through prayer. Then live a lifestyle that is pleasing to Him.
And do you truly know the Gospel?
God has always loved us from the beginning. We were meant to be together with God, but sin seperated God and man. Sin has hardened the hearts of man towards God's love. So to solve this, God sent His only Son Jesus Christ to die for our sins out of His mercy, so that we may be forgiven and draw closer to Him. It is then a matter for you to believe and accept God into your heart or to turn your back on His love.
And if you struggle to live Holy, God will help you to pick up your cross daily. =)
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Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 8:27 pm
-Sunset Wahine- Wait. You're saying God gives some sort of conditional love? It's not that God won't be your friend anymore if you don't obey Him. You can always call on him for help and guidance. He cares for you. First of all, He loves you, and He created you. Secondly, if you are a child of God, it is your decision to ask forgiveness from God if you want to get CLOSER to Him. Thirdly, before you obey God's commands, believe that He loves you so much that He set those standards for you to protect you. Quote: Not really some of those "standards seem kind irrelevant", and in the Bible it sometimes seems as though GOD is giving you an ultimatum more than asking you to listein to him. Friends ask and even parents ask sometimes too but it's seems he gives you no choice at all. Just remember: Love God with all your heart. Grow closer to Him and get intimate with the Holy Spirit through prayer. Then live a lifestyle that is pleasing to Him. Quote: So basically if I don't live a lifestlye according to how he wants he basically doesn't love me or dear I say it not like me at all. And do you truly know the Gospel? God has always loves us. We were meant to be together with God, but sin seperated God and man. Sin has hardened the hearts of man towards God's love. So to solve this, God sent His only Son Jesus Christ to die for our sins out of His mercy, so that we may be forgiven and draw closer to Him. It is then a matter for you to believe and accept God into your heart or to turn your back on His love. Quote: Well GOD could have intervened and stopped our ancient parents from eating the fruit which condemned man from that moment on it's not my fault I was born sinful, and yes I could repenting of my sins, but sin is hardwired into humans and it's not exactly easy to get rid of, in fact it's much more like HIV. When you take the necessary medicine for it you stave off the disease but you don't get ride of it it's still there, but just not as bad. Also another thing is not everyone in the world will be saved for some reason or another, and some of these people aren't necessarily evil, but they do have sin and that automatically from what I understand qualifies them for hell, so Jesus's sacrifice does not save everybody and I think....I think that there's more to salvation than the simple belief of having faith in Jesus...I think. And if you struggle to live Holy, God will help you pick up your cross daily. Quote: Yeah thats another thing lifes hard enough without the constant struggle against your unholy nature interferring with your daily affairs. =)
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Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 8:39 pm
Sir BlackHeart -Sunset Wahine- Wait. You're saying God gives some sort of conditional love? It's not that God won't be your friend anymore if you don't obey Him. You can always call on him for help and guidance. He cares for you. First of all, He loves you, and He created you. Secondly, if you are a child of God, it is your decision to ask forgiveness from God if you want to get CLOSER to Him. Thirdly, before you obey God's commands, believe that He loves you so much that He set those standards for you to protect you. Quote: Not really some of those "standards seem kind irrelevant", and in the Bible it sometimes seems as though GOD is giving you an ultimatum more than asking you to listein to him. Friends ask and even parents ask sometimes too but it's seems he gives you no choice at all. Just remember: Love God with all your heart. Grow closer to Him and get intimate with the Holy Spirit through prayer. Then live a lifestyle that is pleasing to Him. Quote: So basically if I don't live a lifestlye according to how he wants he basically doesn't love me or dear I say it not like me at all. And do you truly know the Gospel? God has always loves us. We were meant to be together with God, but sin seperated God and man. Sin has hardened the hearts of man towards God's love. So to solve this, God sent His only Son Jesus Christ to die for our sins out of His mercy, so that we may be forgiven and draw closer to Him. It is then a matter for you to believe and accept God into your heart or to turn your back on His love. Quote: Well GOD could have intervened and stopped our ancient parents from eating the fruit which condemned man from that moment on it's not my fault I was born sinful, and yes I could repenting of my sins, but sin is hardwired into humans and it's not exactly easy to get rid of, in fact it's much more like HIV. When you take the necessary medicine for it you stave off the disease but you don't get ride of it it's still there, but just not as bad. Also another thing is not everyone in the world will be saved for some reason or another, and some of these people aren't necessarily evil, but they do have sin and that automatically from what I understand qualifies them for hell, so Jesus's sacrifice does not save everybody and I think....I think that there's more to salvation than the simple belief of having faith in Jesus...I think. And if you struggle to live Holy, God will help you pick up your cross daily. Quote: Yeah thats another thing lifes hard enough without the constant struggle against your unholy nature interferring with your daily affairs. =) True. It is hard. If we try to live Holy on our own will, it is impossible. We can't live the Christian life by our own emotions. It is by a relationship. Whenever I get confronted by temptation, I immediately pray and ask God for His will to be mine for he know's what's best for me. I keep the faith. the Holy Spirit will help you. This morning I read Luke 4: The Temptation of Jesus "1Jesus, full of the Holy Spirit, returned from the Jordan and was led by the Spirit in the desert, 2where for forty days he was tempted by the devil. He ate nothing during those days, and at the end of them he was hungry.
3The devil said to him, "If you are the Son of God, tell this stone to become bread."
4Jesus answered, "It is written: 'Man does not live on bread alone.' "
5The devil led him up to a high place and showed him in an instant all the kingdoms of the world. 6And he said to him, "I will give you all their authority and splendor, for it has been given to me, and I can give it to anyone I want to. 7So if you worship me, it will all be yours."
8Jesus answered, "It is written: 'Worship the Lord your God and serve him only.' "
9The devil led him to Jerusalem and had him stand on the highest point of the temple. "If you are the Son of God," he said, "throw yourself down from here. 10For it is written:
" 'He will command his angels concerning you
to guard you carefully;
11they will lift you up in their hands,
so that you will not strike your foot against a stone.'"
12Jesus answered, "It says: 'Do not put the Lord your God to the test.'"
13When the devil had finished all this tempting, he left him until an opportune time."Notice the passage said Jesus was filled with the Holy Spirit. Ask God for the Holy spirit. Only through long intimate prayer, you can understand God more. And through that, obey Him. And in the long run, the feeling of this world and its temptation of sin will be a disgust to you. You will soon have the mind of Christ. Get to know God. Once you try to reach that goal, you'll experience the Greatest Love. Learn to love God FIRST before you can obey His commands. There is no pressure in a relationship with God. God will never reject you. Our own will just make us cold and blind. But we must be crucified with Christ!
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Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 8:59 pm
-Sunset Wahine- Sir BlackHeart -Sunset Wahine- Wait. You're saying God gives some sort of conditional love? It's not that God won't be your friend anymore if you don't obey Him. You can always call on him for help and guidance. He cares for you. First of all, He loves you, and He created you. Secondly, if you are a child of God, it is your decision to ask forgiveness from God if you want to get CLOSER to Him. Thirdly, before you obey God's commands, believe that He loves you so much that He set those standards for you to protect you. Quote: Not really some of those "standards seem kind irrelevant", and in the Bible it sometimes seems as though GOD is giving you an ultimatum more than asking you to listein to him. Friends ask and even parents ask sometimes too but it's seems he gives you no choice at all. Just remember: Love God with all your heart. Grow closer to Him and get intimate with the Holy Spirit through prayer. Then live a lifestyle that is pleasing to Him. Quote: So basically if I don't live a lifestlye according to how he wants he basically doesn't love me or dear I say it not like me at all. And do you truly know the Gospel? God has always loves us. We were meant to be together with God, but sin seperated God and man. Sin has hardened the hearts of man towards God's love. So to solve this, God sent His only Son Jesus Christ to die for our sins out of His mercy, so that we may be forgiven and draw closer to Him. It is then a matter for you to believe and accept God into your heart or to turn your back on His love. Quote: Well GOD could have intervened and stopped our ancient parents from eating the fruit which condemned man from that moment on it's not my fault I was born sinful, and yes I could repenting of my sins, but sin is hardwired into humans and it's not exactly easy to get rid of, in fact it's much more like HIV. When you take the necessary medicine for it you stave off the disease but you don't get ride of it it's still there, but just not as bad. Also another thing is not everyone in the world will be saved for some reason or another, and some of these people aren't necessarily evil, but they do have sin and that automatically from what I understand qualifies them for hell, so Jesus's sacrifice does not save everybody and I think....I think that there's more to salvation than the simple belief of having faith in Jesus...I think. And if you struggle to live Holy, God will help you pick up your cross daily. Quote: Yeah thats another thing lifes hard enough without the constant struggle against your unholy nature interferring with your daily affairs. =) True. It is hard. If we try to live Holy on our own will, it is impossible. We can't live the Christian life by our own emotions. It is by a relationship. Whenever I get confronted by temptation, I immediately pray and ask God for His will to be mine for he know's what's best for me. I keep the faith. the Holy Spirit will help you. This morning I read Luke 4: The Temptation of Jesus "1Jesus, full of the Holy Spirit, returned from the Jordan and was led by the Spirit in the desert, 2where for forty days he was tempted by the devil. He ate nothing during those days, and at the end of them he was hungry. 3The devil said to him, "If you are the Son of God, tell this stone to become bread." 4Jesus answered, "It is written: 'Man does not live on bread alone.'[a]" 5The devil led him up to a high place and showed him in an instant all the kingdoms of the world. 6And he said to him, "I will give you all their authority and splendor, for it has been given to me, and I can give it to anyone I want to. 7So if you worship me, it will all be yours." 8Jesus answered, "It is written: 'Worship the Lord your God and serve him only.' "
9The devil led him to Jerusalem and had him stand on the highest point of the temple. "If you are the Son of God," he said, "throw yourself down from here. 10For it is written:
" 'He will command his angels concerning you
to guard you carefully;
11they will lift you up in their hands,
so that you will not strike your foot against a stone.'"
12Jesus answered, "It says: 'Do not put the Lord your God to the test.'"
13When the devil had finished all this tempting, he left him until an opportune time."
Notice the passage said Jesus was filled with the Holy Spirit. Ask God for the Holy spirit. Only through long intimate prayer, you can understand God more. And through that, obey Him. And in the long run, the feeling of this world and its temptation of sin will be a disgust to you. You will soon have the mind of Christ. Get to know God. Once you try to reach that goal, you'll experience the Greatest Love. But I did try to reach the ultimate goal, it hurt like hell fire, although probably nothing compared to it. It was painful, and I really don't know if this so called love was worth it, especially knowing all this could have been forgone if he just took a few measures against the garden incident, but then again I don't think he wanted to he let it happen. And no I rather don't want t obey I'd rather do my own thing and still be loved if thats at all possible for him to do. I will say this I do think he has some good moral precepts and I would like to be better at practicing them, just not feel like everytime I fail I have go ask for forgiveness for something I don't have total control over, again I'm sinful because I was born with sin not because I choose to be even the Bible confirms it. Also about your Luke thing, I have to say this Jesus was GOD is human form so thats not nessecarily encouraging to see the most powerful being in the universe-possibly take the form of man and completely stomp temptation and the devil in a single swooping, and also although he was made to be sin specifically a sin sacrifice for us I don't think he was born with sin. I think that even with the Holy Spirit it is hard, because temptation always comes back sooner or later.
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Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 9:06 pm
I have a question you? said you said you must first be crusiffied with Christ...what happens if you get uncrusiffied.
P.S.
Sorry If this offensive Sun, but thats just how I feel.
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Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 9:12 pm
Sir BlackHeart -Sunset Wahine- Sir BlackHeart -Sunset Wahine- Wait. You're saying God gives some sort of conditional love? It's not that God won't be your friend anymore if you don't obey Him. You can always call on him for help and guidance. He cares for you. First of all, He loves you, and He created you. Secondly, if you are a child of God, it is your decision to ask forgiveness from God if you want to get CLOSER to Him. Thirdly, before you obey God's commands, believe that He loves you so much that He set those standards for you to protect you. Quote: Not really some of those "standards seem kind irrelevant", and in the Bible it sometimes seems as though GOD is giving you an ultimatum more than asking you to listein to him. Friends ask and even parents ask sometimes too but it's seems he gives you no choice at all. Just remember: Love God with all your heart. Grow closer to Him and get intimate with the Holy Spirit through prayer. Then live a lifestyle that is pleasing to Him. Quote: So basically if I don't live a lifestlye according to how he wants he basically doesn't love me or dear I say it not like me at all. And do you truly know the Gospel? God has always loves us. We were meant to be together with God, but sin seperated God and man. Sin has hardened the hearts of man towards God's love. So to solve this, God sent His only Son Jesus Christ to die for our sins out of His mercy, so that we may be forgiven and draw closer to Him. It is then a matter for you to believe and accept God into your heart or to turn your back on His love. Quote: Well GOD could have intervened and stopped our ancient parents from eating the fruit which condemned man from that moment on it's not my fault I was born sinful, and yes I could repenting of my sins, but sin is hardwired into humans and it's not exactly easy to get rid of, in fact it's much more like HIV. When you take the necessary medicine for it you stave off the disease but you don't get ride of it it's still there, but just not as bad. Also another thing is not everyone in the world will be saved for some reason or another, and some of these people aren't necessarily evil, but they do have sin and that automatically from what I understand qualifies them for hell, so Jesus's sacrifice does not save everybody and I think....I think that there's more to salvation than the simple belief of having faith in Jesus...I think. And if you struggle to live Holy, God will help you pick up your cross daily. Quote: Yeah thats another thing lifes hard enough without the constant struggle against your unholy nature interferring with your daily affairs. =) True. It is hard. If we try to live Holy on our own will, it is impossible. We can't live the Christian life by our own emotions. It is by a relationship. Whenever I get confronted by temptation, I immediately pray and ask God for His will to be mine for he know's what's best for me. I keep the faith. the Holy Spirit will help you. This morning I read Luke 4: The Temptation of Jesus "1Jesus, full of the Holy Spirit, returned from the Jordan and was led by the Spirit in the desert, 2where for forty days he was tempted by the devil. He ate nothing during those days, and at the end of them he was hungry. 3The devil said to him, "If you are the Son of God, tell this stone to become bread." 4Jesus answered, "It is written: 'Man does not live on bread alone.'[a]" 5The devil led him up to a high place and showed him in an instant all the kingdoms of the world. 6And he said to him, "I will give you all their authority and splendor, for it has been given to me, and I can give it to anyone I want to. 7So if you worship me, it will all be yours." 8Jesus answered, "It is written: 'Worship the Lord your God and serve him only.' "
9The devil led him to Jerusalem and had him stand on the highest point of the temple. "If you are the Son of God," he said, "throw yourself down from here. 10For it is written:
" 'He will command his angels concerning you
to guard you carefully;
11they will lift you up in their hands,
so that you will not strike your foot against a stone.'"
12Jesus answered, "It says: 'Do not put the Lord your God to the test.'"
13When the devil had finished all this tempting, he left him until an opportune time."
Notice the passage said Jesus was filled with the Holy Spirit. Ask God for the Holy spirit. Only through long intimate prayer, you can understand God more. And through that, obey Him. And in the long run, the feeling of this world and its temptation of sin will be a disgust to you. You will soon have the mind of Christ. Get to know God. Once you try to reach that goal, you'll experience the Greatest Love. But I did try to reach the ultimate goal, it hurt like hell fire, although probably nothing compared to it. It was painful, and I really don't know if this so called love was worth it, especially knowing all this could have been forgone if he just took a few measures against the garden incident, but then again I don't think he wanted to he let it happen. And no I rather don't want t obey I'd rather do my own thing and still be loved if thats at all possible for him to do. I will say this I do think he has some good moral precepts and I would like to be better at practicing them, just not feel like everytime I fail I have go ask for forgiveness for something I don't have total control over, again I'm sinful because I was born with sin not because I choose to be even the Bible confirms it. Also about your Luke thing, I have to say this Jesus was GOD is human form so thats not nessecarily encouraging to see the most powerful being in the universe-possibly take the form of man and completely stomp temptation and the devil in a single swooping, and also although he was made to be sin specifically a sin sacrifice for us I don't think he was born with sin. I think that even with the Holy Spirit it is hard, because temptation always comes back sooner or later. Yes, but don't you know that when we accept Christ into our hearts, it's no longer us that live, but Christ that lives in you through faith. Having God in our hearts changes everything. No where in the Bible you hear Jesus saying "Come with me, and we'll have lots of FUN!" My Pastor once said that The biproduct of growing with God is NOT happiness but JOY. Joy unspeakable is placed in our hearts once we serve God. Christianity is all about dying to ourselves and living to God. As a Christian we must also make our own sacrifices, such as dyign to our own flesh. And yes, dying to our flesh is hard to adjust to, but it is more SATISFYING; Because we know we're living for the greatest cause. God gave me joy because His love is deeper than any person's love. He is irreplaceable. And He is alive!
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Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 9:14 pm
Just remember there is a difference between joy and happiness. HAppiness come from THIS WORLD and IT'S PLEASURES. Joy comes from a Supernatural touch through Christ. Being crucified with Christ is simply a means of dying to your self and old things have past away.
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Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 9:20 pm
-Sunset Wahine- Sir BlackHeart -Sunset Wahine- Sir BlackHeart -Sunset Wahine- Wait. You're saying God gives some sort of conditional love? It's not that God won't be your friend anymore if you don't obey Him. You can always call on him for help and guidance. He cares for you. First of all, He loves you, and He created you. Secondly, if you are a child of God, it is your decision to ask forgiveness from God if you want to get CLOSER to Him. Thirdly, before you obey God's commands, believe that He loves you so much that He set those standards for you to protect you. Just remember: Love God with all your heart. Grow closer to Him and get intimate with the Holy Spirit through prayer. Then live a lifestyle that is pleasing to Him. And do you truly know the Gospel? God has always loves us. We were meant to be together with God, but sin seperated God and man. Sin has hardened the hearts of man towards God's love. So to solve this, God sent His only Son Jesus Christ to die for our sins out of His mercy, so that we may be forgiven and draw closer to Him. It is then a matter for you to believe and accept God into your heart or to turn your back on His love. And if you struggle to live Holy, God will help you pick up your cross daily. =) True. It is hard. If we try to live Holy on our own will, it is impossible. We can't live the Christian life by our own emotions. It is by a relationship. Whenever I get confronted by temptation, I immediately pray and ask God for His will to be mine for he know's what's best for me. I keep the faith. the Holy Spirit will help you. This morning I read Luke 4: The Temptation of Jesus "1Jesus, full of the Holy Spirit, returned from the Jordan and was led by the Spirit in the desert, 2where for forty days he was tempted by the devil. He ate nothing during those days, and at the end of them he was hungry. 3The devil said to him, "If you are the Son of God, tell this stone to become bread." 4Jesus answered, "It is written: 'Man does not live on bread alone.'[a]" 5The devil led him up to a high place and showed him in an instant all the kingdoms of the world. 6And he said to him, "I will give you all their authority and splendor, for it has been given to me, and I can give it to anyone I want to. 7So if you worship me, it will all be yours." 8Jesus answered, "It is written: 'Worship the Lord your God and serve him only.' "
9The devil led him to Jerusalem and had him stand on the highest point of the temple. "If you are the Son of God," he said, "throw yourself down from here. 10For it is written:
" 'He will command his angels concerning you
to guard you carefully;
11they will lift you up in their hands,
so that you will not strike your foot against a stone.'"
12Jesus answered, "It says: 'Do not put the Lord your God to the test.'"
13When the devil had finished all this tempting, he left him until an opportune time."
Notice the passage said Jesus was filled with the Holy Spirit. Ask God for the Holy spirit. Only through long intimate prayer, you can understand God more. And through that, obey Him. And in the long run, the feeling of this world and its temptation of sin will be a disgust to you. You will soon have the mind of Christ. Get to know God. Once you try to reach that goal, you'll experience the Greatest Love. But I did try to reach the ultimate goal, it hurt like hell fire, although probably nothing compared to it. It was painful, and I really don't know if this so called love was worth it, especially knowing all this could have been forgone if he just took a few measures against the garden incident, but then again I don't think he wanted to he let it happen. And no I rather don't want t obey I'd rather do my own thing and still be loved if thats at all possible for him to do. I will say this I do think he has some good moral precepts and I would like to be better at practicing them, just not feel like everytime I fail I have go ask for forgiveness for something I don't have total control over, again I'm sinful because I was born with sin not because I choose to be even the Bible confirms it. Also about your Luke thing, I have to say this Jesus was GOD is human form so thats not nessecarily encouraging to see the most powerful being in the universe-possibly take the form of man and completely stomp temptation and the devil in a single swooping, and also although he was made to be sin specifically a sin sacrifice for us I don't think he was born with sin. I think that even with the Holy Spirit it is hard, because temptation always comes back sooner or later. Yes, but don't you know that when we accept Christ into our hearts, it's no longer us that live, but Christ that lives in you through faith. Having God in our hearts changes everything. No where in the Bible you hear Jesus saying "Come with me, and we'll have lots of FUN!" My Pastor once said that The biproduct of growing with God is NOT happiness but JOY. Joy unspeakable is placed in our hearts once we serve God. Christianity is all about dying to ourselves and living to God. As a Christian we must also make our own sacrifices, such as dyign to our own flesh. And yes, dying to our flesh is hard to adjust to, but it is more SATISFYING; Because we know we're living for the greatest cause. God gave me joy because His love is deeper than any person's love. He is irreplaceable. And He is alive! Well if thats how you feel then thats good for you, you've found something to be...joyful with yes there we go I was going to say happy but you know. In any case thats not the situation with me or what I think.
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Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 9:20 pm
And well we are cursed through Adam and Eve's mistake. But Adam and Eve were human. God didn't want us to be made into ROBOTS.
Also remember that the Gospel is straightforward. It shows you your sins and all your wrongdoings. It convicts and brings shame. It sure brought shame to me, only Jesus can bring a change! And I just love God.
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