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Mousers09

PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 5:56 pm


Stop Hillary

I hate doing this ad thing, but I would like all prolifers to post in this thread about how you are against Hillary, if you aren't I'd like to convince you why you should be.

During her Husband's presidency a bill was passed that made it ILLEGAL for any PRO-LIFE protests, clothing, or messages to be worn, said, or shown withing 300 FEET of an ABORTION CLINIC/AFFILIATE.

She claims to be a feminist because she thinks that human rights involve the right to remove a child from the womb at ANY TIME during the pregnancy as long as it's head comes out alive.

There are many other reasons, but I'm not going into detail because it doesn't involve pro-life/pro-choice, but it democrat/republican [sorry third parties, I do realize you exist]

I would also like to make a point on the value voters that abortion should be in your top ten values, but even if you want to go for the democrats view on economics there are third parties of which are prolife and democrat, or you could always vote republican, if a prolife republican makes it!
PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 6:37 pm


Feh. I wouldn't vote for Hillary if you paid me a million dollars. Obama either. On the whole I'm a Libertarian, but I usually end up voting Republican.

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Mousers09

PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 6:47 pm


Texas Gypsy
Feh. I wouldn't vote for Hillary if you paid me a million dollars. Obama either. On the whole I'm a Libertarian, but I usually end up voting Republican.


Aren't libertarians prochoice?
PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 6:52 pm


Mousers09
Texas Gypsy
Feh. I wouldn't vote for Hillary if you paid me a million dollars. Obama either. On the whole I'm a Libertarian, but I usually end up voting Republican.


Aren't libertarians prochoice?


Oh, nvm, they think the government shouldn't be in the matter, no one should pay for abortions through taxes, and no law should be made against it.

Mousers09


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 7:10 pm


Mousers09
Mousers09
Texas Gypsy
Feh. I wouldn't vote for Hillary if you paid me a million dollars. Obama either. On the whole I'm a Libertarian, but I usually end up voting Republican.


Aren't libertarians prochoice?


Oh, nvm, they think the government shouldn't be in the matter, no one should pay for abortions through taxes, and no law should be made against it.


Thats one point of view, but not the whole thing. Many Libertarians are pro-choice, many are pro-life, some are on the fence. When it comes to the libertarian view, its about equally balanced

Also, your poll question is skewed. I despise skewed polls, no matter what the reason.
PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 8:00 pm


Okay, I like Hilary Clinton, but I don't like this.

If someone claims to be democratic, and against the patriot act, and you know, for individual rights, and limits the rights of pro-life people like this, I have suspect feelings.

However, I'm Canadian, so it doesn't really matter to me in the long-run-- I just find the whole picture and scope of American politics to be intriguing.

I'm just glad I don't have to actually deal with it, otherwise I'd be torn on the issue.

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rweghrheh

PostPosted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 1:57 am


I never liked the Clintons nor did I ever trust them or the Bush family.

I can't believe she thinks it's ok to kill a fetus during any stage of pregnany and supports particle birth abortion, that's just horrible (unless there is a serious medical reason and in later stages they could just do c-sections if all possible).

I don't vote, I believe it's all rigged and I usually don't like most of the canidates.
PostPosted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 6:05 am


Mousers09
Texas Gypsy
Feh. I wouldn't vote for Hillary if you paid me a million dollars. Obama either. On the whole I'm a Libertarian, but I usually end up voting Republican.


Aren't libertarians prochoice?

Ron Paul is a Pro-life Libertarian, I believe.

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divineseraph

PostPosted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 12:33 pm


Hillary Clinton is a whore anyway. She wil lget sympathy votes for being a woman, she has the logical fallacies of Appeal to Pity and Appeal to the People on her side, but I am hoping that America is not so shallow to vote on someone based on their color or gender. Then again, I have seen MTV.
PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 2:08 pm


I find it offensive that you'd call Hilary a "whore". Whores don't run for president.

Also, I guess Nevada and New Hampshire don't find her that whore-y.

I like that she's defending herself on the basis of her experience, as opposed to playing any kind of gender card.

And the tear, the infamous tear, I feel was indeed genuine. Maybe it might have been about her feeling like she was losing, but I feel like it was a genuine tear all the same.

I like her, and I feel her running for president highlights a lot of the feelings of sexism in America these days.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 2:26 pm


McPhee
I find it offensive that you'd call Hilary a "whore". Whores don't run for president.
Hey! It's America. Anyone can run for President. wink

Seriously though, divine, you shouldn't call names. It's so petty. And it makes you look like a stereotypical, sexist Republican. I don't like Hillary either, partially for the same reasons. Personally, I don't like anyone who's running for office, except maybe Ron Paul. But even then, I don't trust politicians. I'm still going to write in Steven Colbert for my vote.

But on subject, am I reading the OP correctly that Hillary supports the removal of a fetus the whole pregnancy long, rather than the abortion of the fetus? You even say that she supports it as long as the head is alive when it hits air, which would mean that she does not in fact support partial birth abortions. In partial birth abortions the fetus/baby (It's really late term) is removed legs first then killed before the head can exit the body, because the law says, I believe, that once the head has left the body it's been born.

If I'm reading that right, it actually raises my respect for her. I've been saying all along that a more sensible road to take, if they really are all about bodily domain, is to remove the fetus as alive as possible, as that way you can protect bodily domain without purposefully harming the fetus.
PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 3:19 pm


Wait...McPhee...you mean I can't run for president? crying

I've come to the point where I realize a Democrat will win, and really, I'd rather Hillary than some of the other candidates. Edwards I just can't stand. Obama just disgusted me with the Born Alive Infant Protection Act thing. There's more about him that I don't like, but Hillary is honestly the least of my worries when it comes to candidates, on pretty much either side. I mean,

Still. Colbert.

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rweghrheh

PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 1:02 pm


Honestly, I'm scared for this country's future. What if the next president is worse then Bush, what will happen to us? What if prices keep going up and keep getting low pay?
PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 1:40 pm


"as long as its head comes out alive"??? WTF?? Do they hire witches and warlocs for abortionists now?
Umm...once you abort a baby, it usually dead. A head can't survive very long without a body.

Is Hilary blonde?

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