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 Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 1:35 pm
So iv run into the problem that no one knows what the literal translations of Dojime or Munegatame obviously jime is strangulation and gatame is hold but what is Do and Mune ^^ help would be much apriciated.
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Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 9:48 pm
Chest Lock - Mune-gatame
trunk lock/choke - Do-jime
I'm pretty sure dojime isn't the original name, though.
Also, stop sucking at judo.
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Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 2:25 am
What other terms are there? I'm curious to know more of Japanese martial arts terminology.
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Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 2:25 pm
For 98% of the throws chokes locks there is a japanese name for it wich is usually equivalent to a description of the tech. nothing special. Example: Ude-hishigi-juji-gatame = arm-break-cross-hold
Ippon-seoi-nage= 1 long thin thing-upper back-throw
And thank you guy i dont like for your imput its a step in the right direction, kanji sucks.
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Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 1:22 pm
I was gonna say Mune means chest, but Tatsuya beat me to it
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Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 12:12 am
Yeah, kanji is pretty complex. Here's a thought though: is Judo going to change because of the mixed martial arts phenomenon? Know what, I'll start a new discussion on it. Continue with the terminology.
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Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 2:28 pm
Yes and no ^^ Judo as an art remains as judo. Once you put it in the MMA world you've defeated the purpose of Gentle Way. Some judoka have taken judo into MMA or MMA fighters have taken some judo skills, but once you take out what makes judo judo, you no longer have judo. Most MMA fighters don't train in techniques as much as power and endurance, where as a judoka get their endurance and strength from technique drills and constant randori.
More importantly is time and time again throws don't prove very effective in a spring board mat surface. Most throws in matches are quick takedowns that put you in a prime position for groundwork. Some throws work great though like morotegari, sotomakikomi, ipponseoinage, osotogari.
More importantly most judoka practice with gis and probably 70% of MMA matches are no-gi. At least at pride, ufc and so on levels.
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Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 11:19 am
The way they don't use gi irks me. At any rate, I've seen some History on Judo and Ju-Jitsu,(not Brazillian mind you) and it suggests that Judo came from Ju-Jutsu. My curiosity resides in the fact that Judo seems to have gained so much more popularity than it's root discipline. Given the fact that Ju-Jutsu is much more combat related why is it Judo seems more popular?
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Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 9:57 am
Combat Disiplins and military training were banned after WW2 for a while. To keep jujutsu techniques alive and to make it a more ethical peacetime art judo was invented by jiguro kano. Ju-gentle Do-Way. In judo people rarily died or were permanently disabled. Hence Gentle way. Where as the kanji for the Ju in Jujutsu means Pliable or flexible. Jujutsu encompassed all the hand to hand sword spear archer and horseback riding a samurai would need to fullfill their job as a soldier. Kano kept the nage, jime and katame waza alive from jujutsu since A he studied it and B other offshoots were preserving the techniques of the other aspects.
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