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Now, there's something that's been bugging me, so I figured I'd rant about it here, since that's what I do.

See, there's been a trend in films lately about unexpected pregnancies. That includes films like the current Oscar contender "Juno", the comedy "Knocked up", and other films; Not excluding the current pregnancy of Jamie-lynn Spears (as this relates to pregnancies and the media). and carrying them to term, that this is immediately said (by some on the pro-choice side) to have a possible effect on the minds of young people, and therefore promoting unexpected pregnancies through film.

That's just B.S. Like, seriously guys. If it was ABORTION that was being "promoted" through film, the pro-life extremists would be up in arms about it, and pro-choice people would be telling them to shut the hell up.

As for films, in general, if you take a film (just any innocuous film) that is about individuals making decisions, and you apply it to real life, it usually doesn't work. Like, with "Juno". That is a film about an individual girl, who goes through with a pregnancy because she feels like abortion isn't for her, and that she might as well adopt the baby to someone. This is NOT going to make scads of girls go out, have unprotected sex, and have babies, while simultaneously speaking glibly like lines from an indie-comic script.

When people begin to blame the movies for everything, I get pissed off.

http://www.brightlightsfilm.com/29/abortion1.html

As for this article, they're being pretty ridiculous in their justifications for their criticisms of the films they discuss. Like, with "If these walls could talk". In that film, two women in two separate stories have an abortion. It just so happens that, in the middle story with Sissy Spacek, she chooses to have the child, despite some things that are working against her, making a statement about the "choice" factor in pro-choice. Even though I felt that that film was too biased, I like that in ONE story, the mother at least decided to keep her child. But of course, this one choicer has a problem with any woman carrying to term, or for that matter, any woman deciding (despite obstacles) that yeah, she'll carry to term because she WANTS to.

Or, for that matter, "Father of the Bride Part 2". Like, the POINT of the film is how the Steve Martin character learns to be a father, at that point in his life, all over again. It's not about the fact that the pregnancy isn't logical at that point in their life (they discuss all the reasons why they shouldn't have it), it's about learning to love someone new, because they're your kid, and that's the connection that parents and children have. It's ABOUT the love between parent and child and how it can exist at any age. Isn't that a nice idea?

Where's the choice in Pro-choice when you have to CRITICIZE depictions of people WANTING to have children?

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Responses?

I have to say that it's something that I've noticed from pro-choicers a lot too. It's strange, I agree. Also, it's stupid. Pro-choice should mean pro-whatever-the-hell-you-want-your-pregnancy-to-be, not pro-abortion-unless-you-were-specifically-trying.

I have been criticized by pro-lifers too though, for advocating pro-choice, even though I was pregnant (I've since had the little bundle of joy). Something along the lines of "Well, if you think that abortions are so great, why didn't YOU have one?".

I'd go and try to find the direct quote, but it's hard enough trying to type with a baby semi-permanently attached to one's breast.

And half my friends list wonder why I don't debate on gaia much any more. Kind of hard to debate with a bunch of 14 year old jail bait prissies who refuse to pull the c**k out of their mouth before saying something stupid to make it a little less embarrassing for all of us.

No, I'm not referring to just the choicers in the ED. I'm referring to 99% of the ED...the other 1% seems to congregate in their specific guilds after spending five minutes in there and seeing exactly what I just described

I dunno. Did you catch the reaction of the ADT/pro-choice guild when the Duggars had their 17th baby? It was pretty negative, even though it was clearly Michelle's CHOICE.

Although I do agree that sometimes the media misrepresents how difficult it is to deal with becoming a parent, especially when the pregnancy wasn't planned, I have to admit that I don't understand some of the article's objections. I only skimmed the thing, so I really can't do any kind of in depth analysis of it, but I was shocked by the fact that the person who wrote the article was upset that Father of the Bride, Part 2 didn't have an abortion. I mean seriously, what the . . ?! Father of the Bride, Part 2 is a lighthearted, uplifting comedy. Even I, a staunch Pro-Choicer, do not find abortion to be lighthearted, uplifting, or funny. Instead, I find it to be necessary. Stuffing an unpleasant but necessary procedure into a comedy doesn't make much sense to me.

I don't know, maybe I'm just irked because I really like Father of the Bride, Part 2. It made me happy.

What I find it odd how some pro-choicers aren't very supportive of another choices.
Half the time, many of them only talk about abortion but often ignore the other choices and I've seen some yell at women that choose to kept or at least have the child while they congratulated some of the women that had gotten abortions. Why not be supportive of both women, doesn't that defeat the purpose of being pro-choice?

I don't like to follow or take advice from the media, it's often bad advice.

I don't get why people were so upset about the Father of the Bride movie, as it been said it's a comedy and even if she is older, abortion isn't unnecessary for that movie.

Pardon my language, but that little rant was bullshit. Complete and utter.

How is choosing to keep a pregnancy not Pro-Choice? I thought that the entire point was that the parents should choose the option that is best for them? What the heck?

Not to mention, movies aren't (usually) made to push a specific political agenda. They are made to be enjoyable. People like happy endings, and being able to care for an unexpected pregnancy is a better ending, and allows for more comedy. "Knocked Up", say, where the woman aborts the pregnancy would be pretty short - they meet, get drunk, have unprotected sex (dumb dumb dumb), then meet again, talk about it, get an abortion - no real movie, that would be like 30 minutes long.

Anyone who gets their moral beliefs from movies, television, or Hollywood at all, is dumb, in my professional opinion. *wink* Anyone who gets upset at how their beliefs are portrayed in movies or on television is, usually, pretty dumb (there are things, like racism, sexism, anti-gay sentiments, and a few other cases, where people should protest). I'm a NeoPagan, but I'm not going to rant about how horrible "The Craft" is, because it is a (bad) work of fiction.

This person needs to get a life. Or, if they are so up in arms about this topic, they can try to make a good movie about abortion.

Grrr...Pro-Choice means supporting whatever choice a couple or woman feels is best for them.

But I like to protect my eyes! *cries in corner*