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 Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 9:33 pm
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Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 7:29 am
Ah good, this is the same article I read last week... My favorite part: Quote: "We're concerned about this," said Stan Koustaal of the Department of Health and Human Services, which runs the program. "My greatest concern about states dropping out is that these are valuable services and programs. It's the youths in these states who are missing out.And intentionally setting them up to be at a higher risk of STDs and unwanted pregnancies because you're too afraid to accept that one day they will have sex and contraceptives will be needed then doesn't hurt them? Those children aren't missing out? rolleyes
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Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 10:11 am
While 14 is a good start I'm disappointed that so more states didn't opt out. It's obvious that these "classes" aren't working, so I have to guess that they're only in it for the money and it's kind of depressing that our government would put money over the health and safety of our children.
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Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 10:14 am
Heh.
I'm fourteen, a freshman in high school, and we just got done with an abstinence only course. Now, there are three pregnant freshman at my school, and if you have your virginity, you're considered a prude (still glad I have mine). What does this tell those silly conservatives?
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Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 11:24 am
When I was in high-school, we had comprehensive sex education. It included a part on abstinence but wasn't the focus. Our school system didn't receive funding but they snuck it into a quarter of our health ed classes. ^^
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Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 12:38 pm
The bullshit is that the states that reject it don't receive funding. It's as if education is unimportant, no, we must teach them about what we think is right and not actually educate them!
I think this is retarded, and I don't know how they have the audacity to call this s**t "education" when all it is is propaganda.
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Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 1:27 pm
We had pretty good sex ed. But I don't remember it ever mentioning abstinence or even abortion for that matter. It's like abstinence was a big duh and we didn't need to be told that if we didn't want to have sex we shouldn't. Maybe the peer-pressure thing was kinda abstinence things. We learned a helluva lot about contraception (all known methods and their effectiveness) and also did projects on STIs.
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Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 3:27 pm
I went to catholic school... elementary, middle, and high (1-12)
In middle (5th grade - 8th grade) every year we had a 2 week long class that gradually introduced us to sex, what it was, and what it accomplished, and also anatomy... but no contraceptives. In highschool health class (9th grade) we were told all the horrible diseases sex could produce. In 11th grade theology class we were taught about all forms of contraceptives and why each one is a sin in the eyes of God (but the teacher was a hippy, so while the class did tell us why each was wrong based on how it worked... it was a pretty good look at how effective they were, how to use them, etc >D ).
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Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 3:30 pm
I live in Texas and went to public schools.
Our sex ed class was basically "A guy has a p***s, a girl has a v****a. If you put the p***s in the v****a you make a baby. That's bad. Don't do it. You'll get diseases and your p***s will fall off. Also, you'll go to hell and die."
I don't remember learning anything about condoms or birth control...
Which may be part of the reason half our town was pregnant by the time they hit seventeen.
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Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 3:37 pm
The whole funding thing is so idiotic "Hey we'll pay you to not properly teach our kids about sex, and then blame the kids themselves when they screw up!"
I Live in Texas, so my so called sex education was a video about how sex is the ultimate destroyer of your life and how if you have sex you will get pregnant and you will get some horrible disease and you will die!
So lets not forget kids, Marriage is the ultimate cure all to all of these diseases and problems! -cue horrific picture of herpes infested genitalia-
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Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 6:52 pm
I'm proud of my state for being one of the states that rejected it. I had comprehensive sex ed in school starting in 8th grade, and that was years ago. Sadly not everyone I know got the same education or remembered what they learned.
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Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 7:14 pm
Down here in my gewd ol' Middle Tennesse county, we don't have a sex ed class.
Instead, in freshman year Health class, we're dragged to the auditorioum so some b***h of a CPC employee can "teach" us about teen pregnancy.
Here's how it goes:
"lykeomg! abstinence is the ONLY way to prevent STDs!! marriage rings have a MAGICUL STD and unwanted pregnancy barriur!!!! -shows 20 minute video on how adoption is the only thing you should do if you get pregnant- ABORTION IS TEH EBILL!!! T-T T-T T-T T-T -shows that fetus hand holding a doctor's finger photo- SEE?! IT'S A PERSUN!!!! and dun raise the babeee! U'll be a trailer trash hore if u do! I'm going to be a mysogynist jerkoff b***h and say that the MALE FATHER is the most important member of the family because these obviously biased statistics say so!"
Excerpt from the actual class...
"Teacher": In fact, 2 million couples are waiting to adopt, right now!
Me: Then what about the 500,000 kids waiting to be adopted?
"Teacher": ... Uh, 400,000 of them are in the foster care system, so they CAN'T be adopted!
Me: But--
"Teacher": I know a couple who adopted TWO Asian kids with Down Syndrome!
Me: -resists the urge to go into a heartfelt monolouge about choice-
I know this is extremely rude and cruel, but I hope that b***h gets what she's been giving: A giant sack of s**t.
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Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2007 8:45 am
I live in VA and got abstinence only education. Though it was slightly encouraging to hear the teacher put on the side " When you DO have sex, use protection if you don't want THIS to happen" *cue 20 min video about preggers, stds, and all that crap*
I had to look up contraceptive usage and all that on the internet, and felt dirty the whole time. *sigh* Cleared my history like 20 bajillion times.
I'm glad my state finally came around and rejected that crap. I'm too scared to have sex any time soon now, even though i know it wouldn't actually kill me now.
I'm like..traumatically phobic of getting preggers now..thanks abstinence only education, for showing me that lovely live childbirth video and the shames and pains of pregnancy..really helped a whole lot.
Friggin terrorists..
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Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2007 11:01 pm
Out of 178 seniors.(yeah small class, most failed/dropped out/ or disappeared altogether) 76 which are girls. We have 13 pregnancies, and a mean case of syphilis going around.
Can you guess what we learned about sex?
Or what we didn't learn? surprised
And since MI is in it's own one state recession, losing that abstinence only money would mean the ability to keep some schools open would be gone
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Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 10:10 am
It's a start...
It's times like these that I'm glad I learned about sex when I was seven. Actually, the lucky part was that my best friend was fourteen at the time and actually learning informative sex ed stuff. She brought books, so it wasn't like I was told anything by her.
That reminds me... I never see sex ed books at the library my mom works at. There's a large spot on the shelf in the health section that's empty, I wonder if it has something to do with their surprising lack of sex books...
I worry for my little sister, though. She learns about that stuff this year. I wonder if my state is one of the ones that rejected abstinence-only stuff. I warned her about it, but still... What are the 14 states that rejected it?
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