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 Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 5:31 pm
whether or not you believe in fate or destiny, if you believe in the concept of the grim reaper and his immortal words, "it is your time," "your time is up," or "i have come for you," then in a sense you believe in a predestined fate.
the reaper only shows up when it's your time to die. and even with the notion of "cheating death/fate." it makes sense in a way that that moment you cheated death wasn't really your time to die. it is the grim reapers job to know when and where you will die. being able to avoid death is just another way of saying it wasn't your time to die, and the reaper never would've come for you at that moment anyway.
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Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 7:53 pm
I don't believe in the grim reaper but I can't say the same thing for destiny.
I'm not sure whether or not I believe in it.
For some reason, I can't stop thinking about premonitions and stuff.
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Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 7:08 am
I dont believe in a predetermined fate or destiny. I believe in premonitions, but I believe the future is dependent upon the past and the present. I believe we have a choice up until a certain point and once you're past that point then a particular future is inevitable. but I dont believe that the choice you initially made was fated to be made.
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Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 1:46 pm
i belive that we all have a predetermined fate...one of the things that really give it away is dejavu...dejavu occures when we have un knowingly tapped into the timeline wile we are asleep this happens because more of our brian is active when we sleep...and no one knows what the brian can realy do...so who's to say that we cant see into the timestream? and if we can see into the time stream and see things happen b4 they happen then that means everything is predetermines by somting
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Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 3:13 pm
blaisred i belive that we all have a predetermined fate...one of the things that really give it away is dejavu...dejavu occures when we have un knowingly tapped into the timeline wile we are asleep this happens because more of our brian is active when we sleep...and no one knows what the brian can realy do...so who's to say that we cant see into the timestream? and if we can see into the time stream and see things happen b4 they happen then that means everything is predetermines by somting yeah, but it's only predetermined according to past actions or events. not everything is predetermined from birth. youre born, you make choices, and those choices instigate what happens next. I agree that deja vou is the memory of a dream you once had that you didnt remember having upon waking, but I think, as I said, the predetermination of what was to come is totally dependent on something that happened in the past that either directly or indirectly affected your life. if something in the past were to have happened differently, then the outcome wouldve been different.
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Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 7:13 pm
There is nothing like total control or predertermination, it's a work of both. For example it's not you who decides if you get employed in a company, that's work of a personal manager, making him temporarily master over your fate. But there are also other parts making you the master over your fate if you fulfill the requirements, like with buying a house, if you have the money and like the house and choose to buy it you decided on your own, without predetermination.
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Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 1:02 pm
I believe that every action has a consequent reaction and that sends us down the paths we must walk. Kinda like deja vu or premonitions or just really good dreams, every now or then i find myself realising I've had one and think yep I'm meant to be here. That's how I accepted I was right to switch colleges. xp
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Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 2:26 pm
tricky_angel I believe that every action has a consequent reaction and that sends us down the paths we must walk. Kinda like deja vu or premonitions or just really good dreams, every now or then i find myself realising I've had one and think yep I'm meant to be here. That's how I accepted I was right to switch colleges. xp oh absolutely. life itself is a series of cause and affect. we walk down the road of life, and come to a crossroads where we can make a choice as to which path to take. once we've made that choice there is usually no turning back and must take it to its predetermined end which may or may not be what we expected.
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Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 2:36 pm
personally,i think that you do have a destiny,just that that destiny may change depending on what you do.i say to just go with the flow and accept that life hasnt,wont,and isnt at the time,going to go the way you wanted,planned,or predicted.
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Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 9:37 am
I believe the future is what we make of it. People who believe in destiny will go threw life and not do any thing saying that what ever happens happens to me because of destiny. Are future is brought about by the choices we make and how much work we put into are lives. I don't believe god has a plan for us or predetermined whether we go to hell or not. He might influence us but are future is are own and I plan to make mine the best that i can, and if it doesn't turn out like that then I only have my self to blame not destiny.
((Yes the path we take is a chosen one not a predetermined one and the consequences and the rewards are often unpredictable but we must make the most of it then take the next path do to are own will))
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Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 7:41 pm
blaisred i belive that we all have a predetermined fate...one of the things that really give it away is dejavu...dejavu occures when we have un knowingly tapped into the timeline wile we are asleep this happens because more of our brian is active when we sleep...and no one knows what the brian can realy do...so who's to say that we cant see into the timestream? and if we can see into the time stream and see things happen b4 they happen then that means everything is predetermines by somting This is only one of many theories explaining why some people experience the phenomenon known as deja vu. Because we know very little about the brain and how it stores, processes, and retrieves memories, there is no way for us to know why deja vu occurs. While I agree that humans are nowhere near unlocking the brain's full potential, I don't see it as proof of predetermined fate. I'm much more inclined to believe in evolution, and if you've studied evolution, it is almost impossible to believe that we have gotten to the point we are now in any way other than accidentally. I don't think humans were a part of any plan, we just happened to evolve this way, and will probably continue to do so in a random and indeterminate manner. Therefore, it is difficult for me to conceive of a plan that determines each individual human's life, when anything we do here on earth is almost completely insiginificant in the infinite universe and in the time-space continuum.
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Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 9:35 pm
There is one reason this isn't being moved to the PDF:
If you accept desitny et cetera, then philosophy is out the window.
I'm not sure everyone here understands that the moment you make room for destiny or anything being predetermined, you have forbidden "right and wrong."
Nobody can do anything wrong, or right, because it was all destined to happen. You can't praise someone for their actions, because they would have done it whether or not they wanted to, and likewise they can't be punished for crimes because they had no choice.
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Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 7:21 pm
exactly why predetermined fate is flawed.
as to deja vu. I have my own theory that I came up with. Since are eyes actually see what just happened and not when it happened do to the slight time it takes are brain to processes those images. I believe deja vu is are brain leaping ahead slightly or something making us see something when it happens and then seeing it again once are brain reprocesses it
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Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 6:39 am
leahcim22 exactly why predetermined fate is flawed. as to deja vu. I have my own theory that I came up with. Since are eyes actually see what just happened and not when it happened do to the slight time it takes are brain to processes those images. I believe deja vu is are brain leaping ahead slightly or something making us see something when it happens and then seeing it again once are brain reprocesses it That's actually a legitimate theory. You're not the first to come up with it, but it's pretty cool that you thought of it on your own. Kudos.
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Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 11:03 am
((Wow sweet lol I had no idea it just popped into my head on the school bus one day lol))
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