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You made a whole thread just for me ^_^

I'm talking about the british conservative party here. It would have been nice of you to remember that. The politics here is different from the ones in the US. Also it is traditional to disagree with the party you don't vote for, otherwise there would be little point in voting at all and everyone would sit around agreeing, which is about as likley as me parting the oceans with the force of my mind 4laugh

Also, if you read what I wrote, you will notice that I never said that I wasn't discriminating against people I strongly disagree with. The intelligent reader will note that this was the entire purpose of my choosing someone whom I did agree with, as most people do. This reader will then go on to notice the section where I said Conservative OR narrow minded.

Would you want to give a child you may have put up for adoption to a family who strongly believed in abortion if the person is young or unmarried? Does that make you a narrow minded so and so? It makes you subjective and human. Like everyone else.

I was merely pointing out how your decision to create an entire thread as an underhanded attack on my opinions had apparently overlooked the very point I was making.

The point of this thread would come across better if you wrote and opening post explaining your ideas rather than veiled mudslinging at my views. Please remove this insult, there is no reason for me to tolerate your unnecessarily hostile behaviour.

Thankyou.

I don't understand why this needed to be made into its own thread. It just seems . . . hostile. I mean really, what exactly is the point of this thread apart from, "And I think what Anaradana said is awful!"? Because I'm not seeing it.

Anyway, I'm going to try to give this thread a topic apart from Anardana and say that I don't see the problem with seeking to adopt your child out to people who you believe will be accepting of you. For example, I'm an atheist. Christians on the whole are not particularly accepting of my beliefs. Yes, there are exceptions, but my experience tells me that even Christians that I can be friends with often think I'm going to hell. I don't think it would be wrong of me to want to give my child to someone who wouldn't tell my child that their mother is damned for all eternity. I also don't think it's wrong to adopt your child out to someone who shares certain core values. For example, I would never want to give my child to a white supremacist simply because I wouldn't want my child to be raised by people who would tell him/her that whites are the best. I don't see what the problem with this is.

I was specifically told to make this a new thread by an assisting mod, as the question was unrelated to the thread the quoted person's post was in. And i know personly Waters likes to keep her threads on topic.

The point of this thread isn't about adoption and people who agree with you. And ita not about picking on Aradana. The only reason why some one would think it is, is because she's the quoted one. You're missing that.

This thread is solely about people who disagree with you and why you may have a problem with them to the point you call them closed minded (if you ever get that far)

Thanks for posting something slightly relevant though. I appreciate it. No joke. 3nodding

To the first question - I might, I don't know. As I have mentioned I am in two minds about abortion which is why I was hoping for polite and mature discussion in this guild to help me decide where I stood. People who aren't closed minded can still discriminate because even though some people like to think they are without prejudice there are very few people in this world who are not riddled with prejudice. It is natural. If I put a child up for adoption I would give it to a liberal monarchistic gay couple if I could, but it doesn't mean I wouldn't consider anyone else, It would just take more thought. Raising someone to be broad minded is not the same as raising them to agree with everything. I am polite to the vast majority of people I meet unless they are persistently rude, but that does not mean that I would want to perpetuate their beliefs which I disagree with by handing them a child to raise with their views. It's not so much as discriminating as choosing who I think will luck after it best. My opinion will naturally be biased towards my own views but that doesn't mean I'm discriminating against the others, I'm not refusing them anything they are entitled to or refusing to speak to them or in some way persecuting them, I just wouldn't want to give my offspring to them.

To the second - The implication that Republicans and Conservatives might raise their children to be narrow-minded was not there by my intention but I can see where you got the notion after the OP although apparently my being offended at his hostility means nothing. Republicans in this country are not a political party so much as they are a view on the head of state. As our head of state and government are separate, being a republican simply means you want an elected head of state. This is unlikely to have an affect on their political levels of open or closed mindedness as there are no "official" republican policies due to there being no republican party.

Conservatives in the UK are loved or despised depending on where you live. I live in the north of England. This is where the coal mines were situated until the conservatives closed them all down because it was cheaper to buy coal from abroad. This left most villages and towns in the North with no income as there were literally almost no other industries in the North at that time. When the miners struck the conservative leader ordered the police to break the strike in any way possible. The police turned the leaders of the strikes upside down into the burning barrels of oil they were using to keep themselves warm, killing them. The party and leader have never apologised for ordering this and since then there are towns in England where Jesus could be running for the conservatives as MP and he wouldn't get in. I will as such always hold a grudge against the conservatives because they have maintained what they did was ok to this day and my family were badly affected during that time. If I dislike them with a good reason I don't see that as discimination.

Thats more like it. But now, I'm going to have to ask what you mean by closed minded? Do you mean he sticks to his guns? In that he may agree with some of your points, but stays to what he sees as right? Or does he agree with you on some points, but blows off every one he dosen't agree with?

Wow - that's a horrible thing to have happened.
I find that understandable, but somewhat irrational (no offense meant). I can see where you would hold a grudge, but obviously most conservatives weren't involved with that action - it's a little like hating all chickens because one attacked you when you were little (which took me years and years to get over). It was only a few people who made that horrible, horrible choice - and it is unlikely that any of them would ever be a potential adoptive family.