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Sindroid 500

PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2007 1:45 am


To put this bluntly: I suck at PvP. With ANY class. I beat a gnome rogue as a human Paly at lower levels, but thats thanks to Perception. Mid to high-level PvP is murder for me. I can't even beat other players who're a few levels below me.

So here's my request: Please teach me how to kick a**! I play a BE Mage (in my sig) and a NE Rogue (level 63, 100% subt spec) as my two mains. Please give me any tips or advice you can so I can stand a better chance in BGs and Gurubashi! (i also want to join an arena team eventually)

Help me (re)spec, point me toward good gear, or give me fighting tips! anything that would help, please!
PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2007 9:51 am


Use hot keys if you dont already
It makes things 100 times faster and easier although it might take a while to get used too

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Sindroid 500

PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2007 2:29 pm


Starcus
Use hot keys if you dont already
It makes things 100 times faster and easier although it might take a while to get used too
i'm used to clicking my abilities in PvE lol

but im using four different hotbars, how can i access the other spells quickly if i need them?
PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 2:08 pm


go to options then interface then I think its under advanced options click "show bottom left action bar
show bottom right action bar
show right action bar
show right action bar 2"

you have room for all your combat abilities then

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PrototypeHastur

PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 9:20 pm


Hemopheliac Barber
To put this bluntly: I suck at PvP. With ANY class. I beat a gnome rogue as a human Paly at lower levels, but thats thanks to Perception. Mid to high-level PvP is murder for me. I can't even beat other players who're a few levels below me.

So here's my request: Please teach me how to kick a**! I play a BE Mage (in my sig) and a NE Rogue (level 63, 100% subt spec) as my two mains. Please give me any tips or advice you can so I can stand a better chance in BGs and Gurubashi! (i also want to join an arena team eventually)

Help me (re)spec, point me toward good gear, or give me fighting tips! anything that would help, please!


As a Mage, Any spec is technically good for PvP. How you apply it is a different story.

And in terms of PvP, which one are you heading for? World PvP, Battle Ground PvP, or Arena PvP?

As a rogue, 100% sub spec? Ew. Get out of that ASAP. Sub spec is pretty good, but not good enough to put all your talent points in. Tell me what you want to do (Stun, Combat damage, Instant damage, etc) and we'll direct you in the proper direction.
PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 5:28 pm


Starcus
go to options then interface then I think its under advanced options click "show bottom left action bar
show bottom right action bar
show right action bar
show right action bar 2"

you have room for all your combat abilities then
well, that i knew, i already use that. but anything in those bars have to be clicked on which is what i do anyway.

Sindroid 500


Sindroid 500

PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 5:45 pm


PrototypeHastur
Hemopheliac Barber
To put this bluntly: I suck at PvP. With ANY class. I beat a gnome rogue as a human Paly at lower levels, but thats thanks to Perception. Mid to high-level PvP is murder for me. I can't even beat other players who're a few levels below me.

So here's my request: Please teach me how to kick a**! I play a BE Mage (in my sig) and a NE Rogue (level 63, 100% subt spec) as my two mains. Please give me any tips or advice you can so I can stand a better chance in BGs and Gurubashi! (i also want to join an arena team eventually)

Help me (re)spec, point me toward good gear, or give me fighting tips! anything that would help, please!


As a Mage, Any spec is technically good for PvP. How you apply it is a different story.

And in terms of PvP, which one are you heading for? World PvP, Battle Ground PvP, or Arena PvP?

As a rogue, 100% sub spec? Ew. Get out of that ASAP. Sub spec is pretty good, but not good enough to put all your talent points in. Tell me what you want to do (Stun, Combat damage, Instant damage, etc) and we'll direct you in the proper direction.
okay. i would currently like to learn how not to get my a** handed to me in BG, but eventually in Arena.

and the Rogue thing, okay. 3nodding whenever it is i finally get to play again, i'll respec. lets see... stun lock is always fun... what do you mean by instant damage?
PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 5:45 pm


Hemopheliac Barber
Starcus
go to options then interface then I think its under advanced options click "show bottom left action bar
show bottom right action bar
show right action bar
show right action bar 2"

you have room for all your combat abilities then
well, that i knew, i already use that. but anything in those bars have to be clicked on which is what i do anyway.


No they don't. You can set hotkeys for them, go to keybindings menu.

Kiloran


Sindroid 500

PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 9:30 pm


Kiloran
Hemopheliac Barber
Starcus
go to options then interface then I think its under advanced options click "show bottom left action bar
show bottom right action bar
show right action bar
show right action bar 2"

you have room for all your combat abilities then
well, that i knew, i already use that. but anything in those bars have to be clicked on which is what i do anyway.


No they don't. You can set hotkeys for them, go to keybindings menu.
oh cool ^_^ thanks for the tip. now i just have to reconfigure my key bindings so i don't mess up different commands... O.o
PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 7:45 pm


Hemopheliac Barber
PrototypeHastur
Hemopheliac Barber
To put this bluntly: I suck at PvP. With ANY class. I beat a gnome rogue as a human Paly at lower levels, but thats thanks to Perception. Mid to high-level PvP is murder for me. I can't even beat other players who're a few levels below me.

So here's my request: Please teach me how to kick a**! I play a BE Mage (in my sig) and a NE Rogue (level 63, 100% subt spec) as my two mains. Please give me any tips or advice you can so I can stand a better chance in BGs and Gurubashi! (i also want to join an arena team eventually)

Help me (re)spec, point me toward good gear, or give me fighting tips! anything that would help, please!


As a Mage, Any spec is technically good for PvP. How you apply it is a different story.

And in terms of PvP, which one are you heading for? World PvP, Battle Ground PvP, or Arena PvP?

As a rogue, 100% sub spec? Ew. Get out of that ASAP. Sub spec is pretty good, but not good enough to put all your talent points in. Tell me what you want to do (Stun, Combat damage, Instant damage, etc) and we'll direct you in the proper direction.
okay. i would currently like to learn how not to get my a** handed to me in BG, but eventually in Arena.

and the Rogue thing, okay. 3nodding whenever it is i finally get to play again, i'll respec. lets see... stun lock is always fun... what do you mean by instant damage?


In BG's, a mage goes for more spell damage = best. That's simple enough. But in Arena, you focus more on survivablity than anything else. So when you reach 70, start saving up stuff that adds resilence and a buttload of stamina to keep your a** alive.

instant damage, when I refer to a rogue is really old-fashion. (I doubt most people remember it.) But you go majority sub/assasination. That's when you rely on stealthing behind a foe and unleash critical ambush for massive damage and the like)

PrototypeHastur


Mr. Graves

PostPosted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 8:15 pm


PrototypeHastur
Hemopheliac Barber
PrototypeHastur
Hemopheliac Barber
To put this bluntly: I suck at PvP. With ANY class. I beat a gnome rogue as a human Paly at lower levels, but thats thanks to Perception. Mid to high-level PvP is murder for me. I can't even beat other players who're a few levels below me.

So here's my request: Please teach me how to kick a**! I play a BE Mage (in my sig) and a NE Rogue (level 63, 100% subt spec) as my two mains. Please give me any tips or advice you can so I can stand a better chance in BGs and Gurubashi! (i also want to join an arena team eventually)

Help me (re)spec, point me toward good gear, or give me fighting tips! anything that would help, please!


As a Mage, Any spec is technically good for PvP. How you apply it is a different story.

And in terms of PvP, which one are you heading for? World PvP, Battle Ground PvP, or Arena PvP?

As a rogue, 100% sub spec? Ew. Get out of that ASAP. Sub spec is pretty good, but not good enough to put all your talent points in. Tell me what you want to do (Stun, Combat damage, Instant damage, etc) and we'll direct you in the proper direction.
okay. i would currently like to learn how not to get my a** handed to me in BG, but eventually in Arena.

and the Rogue thing, okay. 3nodding whenever it is i finally get to play again, i'll respec. lets see... stun lock is always fun... what do you mean by instant damage?


In BG's, a mage goes for more spell damage = best. That's simple enough. But in Arena, you focus more on survivablity than anything else. So when you reach 70, start saving up stuff that adds resilence and a buttload of stamina to keep your a** alive.

instant damage, when I refer to a rogue is really old-fashion. (I doubt most people remember it.) But you go majority sub/assasination. That's when you rely on stealthing behind a foe and unleash critical ambush for massive damage and the like)
Sub daggers has some wicked burst damage potential. Premed/Cold Blood/Prep = win. This is what I believe a fairly decent representation of a Premed/Cold Blood build.

http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=fheco0xoZZE0ccGMR0xsx
PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2007 6:38 pm


Its been said but Ill say it again for emphasis.

DONT

BE

A

CLICKER!!!

mrgreen

Bacchant


Sindroid 500

PostPosted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 8:53 pm


cool, thanks ^_^
wish i could afford that z-board thing lol i bet that would make it a lot easier to PvP
PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2008 1:25 am


Mr. Graves
PrototypeHastur
Hemopheliac Barber
PrototypeHastur
Hemopheliac Barber
To put this bluntly: I suck at PvP. With ANY class. I beat a gnome rogue as a human Paly at lower levels, but thats thanks to Perception. Mid to high-level PvP is murder for me. I can't even beat other players who're a few levels below me.

So here's my request: Please teach me how to kick a**! I play a BE Mage (in my sig) and a NE Rogue (level 63, 100% subt spec) as my two mains. Please give me any tips or advice you can so I can stand a better chance in BGs and Gurubashi! (i also want to join an arena team eventually)

Help me (re)spec, point me toward good gear, or give me fighting tips! anything that would help, please!


As a Mage, Any spec is technically good for PvP. How you apply it is a different story.

And in terms of PvP, which one are you heading for? World PvP, Battle Ground PvP, or Arena PvP?

As a rogue, 100% sub spec? Ew. Get out of that ASAP. Sub spec is pretty good, but not good enough to put all your talent points in. Tell me what you want to do (Stun, Combat damage, Instant damage, etc) and we'll direct you in the proper direction.
okay. i would currently like to learn how not to get my a** handed to me in BG, but eventually in Arena.

and the Rogue thing, okay. 3nodding whenever it is i finally get to play again, i'll respec. lets see... stun lock is always fun... what do you mean by instant damage?


In BG's, a mage goes for more spell damage = best. That's simple enough. But in Arena, you focus more on survivablity than anything else. So when you reach 70, start saving up stuff that adds resilence and a buttload of stamina to keep your a** alive.

instant damage, when I refer to a rogue is really old-fashion. (I doubt most people remember it.) But you go majority sub/assasination. That's when you rely on stealthing behind a foe and unleash critical ambush for massive damage and the like)
Sub daggers has some wicked burst damage potential. Premed/Cold Blood/Prep = win. This is what I believe a fairly decent representation of a Premed/Cold Blood build.

No.]http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=fheco0xoZZE0ccGMR0xsx
No. Cold Blood/Prep tends to work better than Meditation because of two things:

Improved Gouge
Improved Slice and Dice

Dagger rogues really need all the stun time they can get, especially to bandage against hard fights and to run away from the evil warriors from hell. Slice and Dice is required to put up big numbers. Premed is decent, but doesn't work as well with a Cold Blood build, especially for PvP. Vigor/Prep is good, as well. Master Of Deception is good, but I really like Camouflage, so that can be a hard choice.

Also, no Lethality means you've just gimped your damage output by a lot. Dagger rogues rely a lot on getting big backstab/ambush crits (that's one reason why you get cold blood lololololol), so not taking a +damage talent is

This would be better: http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=fhesox0sVZGcZAMxcM0R

Vigor/Prep is my preferred, but the new buff to the Dirty Deeds talent makes it harder to take... gonk

The Mule Of Max


Fasal

PostPosted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 6:52 am


The Mule Of Max
Mr. Graves
PrototypeHastur
Hemopheliac Barber
PrototypeHastur
Hemopheliac Barber
To put this bluntly: I suck at PvP. With ANY class. I beat a gnome rogue as a human Paly at lower levels, but thats thanks to Perception. Mid to high-level PvP is murder for me. I can't even beat other players who're a few levels below me.

So here's my request: Please teach me how to kick a**! I play a BE Mage (in my sig) and a NE Rogue (level 63, 100% subt spec) as my two mains. Please give me any tips or advice you can so I can stand a better chance in BGs and Gurubashi! (i also want to join an arena team eventually)

Help me (re)spec, point me toward good gear, or give me fighting tips! anything that would help, please!


As a Mage, Any spec is technically good for PvP. How you apply it is a different story.

And in terms of PvP, which one are you heading for? World PvP, Battle Ground PvP, or Arena PvP?

As a rogue, 100% sub spec? Ew. Get out of that ASAP. Sub spec is pretty good, but not good enough to put all your talent points in. Tell me what you want to do (Stun, Combat damage, Instant damage, etc) and we'll direct you in the proper direction.
okay. i would currently like to learn how not to get my a** handed to me in BG, but eventually in Arena.

and the Rogue thing, okay. 3nodding whenever it is i finally get to play again, i'll respec. lets see... stun lock is always fun... what do you mean by instant damage?


In BG's, a mage goes for more spell damage = best. That's simple enough. But in Arena, you focus more on survivablity than anything else. So when you reach 70, start saving up stuff that adds resilence and a buttload of stamina to keep your a** alive.

instant damage, when I refer to a rogue is really old-fashion. (I doubt most people remember it.) But you go majority sub/assasination. That's when you rely on stealthing behind a foe and unleash critical ambush for massive damage and the like)
Sub daggers has some wicked burst damage potential. Premed/Cold Blood/Prep = win. This is what I believe a fairly decent representation of a Premed/Cold Blood build.

No.]http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=fheco0xoZZE0ccGMR0xsx
No. Cold Blood/Prep tends to work better than Meditation because of two things:

Improved Gouge
Improved Slice and Dice

Dagger rogues really need all the stun time they can get, especially to bandage against hard fights and to run away from the evil warriors from hell. Slice and Dice is required to put up big numbers. Premed is decent, but doesn't work as well with a Cold Blood build, especially for PvP. Vigor/Prep is good, as well. Master Of Deception is good, but I really like Camouflage, so that can be a hard choice.

Also, no Lethality means you've just gimped your damage output by a lot. Dagger rogues rely a lot on getting big backstab/ambush crits (that's one reason why you get cold blood lololololol), so not taking a +damage talent is

This would be better: http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=fhesox0sVZGcZAMxcM0R

Vigor/Prep is my preferred, but the new buff to the Dirty Deeds talent makes it harder to take... gonk
for a rogue once you get t 70 dont go stunlock cause its almost impossible to do due to resilience stare
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