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Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 10:38 pm
post your pictures of your bass rig here and tell everyone about it! heres mine:  whats in the picture: bass:warwick corvette double buck $$ head:fender pro 300 all tube head cabs:2 custom made 2x15 cabs speakers:4 eminence legend cb15's cable:30' monster bass cable this rig is only half done, i still have to get speaker wire, solder, egg crate acoustic foam for the inside of the cabs, carpet covering for one of the cabs, speaker gasketing tape, speaker screws, spray adhesive. then im getting a jig saw and two right-angle handles for the back of the cabs and 4 tilt back wheels(2 for each cab) so i can grab the handle on the back and roll my cabs away like their on dolleys. so i still have a long way to go. also, im going to be getting a 4 space rack case, a furman m-8 power conditioner, a behringer rack tuner, and a two space vented rack panel then once all that is bough, installed and finished. my dream rig will finally be complete.
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Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 10:40 pm
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Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 5:57 pm
my whole room is a rig cool
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Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 8:09 am
im actually re-vamping my rig. i have a design for a 3-way full range bass cabinet and then a subwoofer cabinet with a 21" sub. im going to build the two cabs instead of finishing my current rig. and to top it all off, im going to have my cabinets made out of 3/4" plywood like most cabs, but 3/4" plexiglass!!! hellz yeah! its going to be the sweetest rig ever created! if i have some money left over, im going to get my fender bassman 300's outside shell replaced with a plexiglass one as well, and maybe even replace the chassis with a chrome one since all the hardware on my cabs will be chrome. can you say ******** sweet??!?!?!?!?! NOBODY STEAL MY IDEA OR I WILL EFFING KILL YOU WITH MY BARE HANDS!
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Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 11:28 am
metalsnowtablake im actually re-vamping my rig. i have a design for a 3-way full range bass cabinet and then a subwoofer cabinet with a 21" sub. im going to build the two cabs instead of finishing my current rig. and to top it all off, im going to have my cabinets made out of 3/4" plywood like most cabs, but 3/4" plexiglass!!! hellz yeah! its going to be the sweetest rig ever created! if i have some money left over, im going to get my fender bassman 300's outside shell replaced with a plexiglass one as well, and maybe even replace the chassis with a chrome one since all the hardware on my cabs will be chrome. can you say ******** sweet??!?!?!?!?! NOBODY STEAL MY IDEA OR I WILL EFFING KILL YOU WITH MY BARE HANDS! I was curious about this, so I did a little rummaging. "Perspex/Plexiglass will rattle like a bastid. It's very brittle, so you will get minute stress cracks around the screw holes which will propagate when stressed by the sound waves coming off the backs of the speakers, so the whole thing will just fall apart. It will crack when the cab is moved, as soon as someone knocks it. Who is going to see it? Certainly not your audience. There are definitely times to break with convention, but I would guess that this isn't one of them." and "If I saw a lot of pro cabs made with plexiglass, I would think it might be a useful concept, but all the guitar cabs are made of wood... of different types. We use wood for a reason.tone." And these are talking about guitar cabs, can you image the rattling these things will take from a 21" SUB? I think you're in for some heartbreak man.
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Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2007 4:22 pm
angrymalazar metalsnowtablake im actually re-vamping my rig. i have a design for a 3-way full range bass cabinet and then a subwoofer cabinet with a 21" sub. im going to build the two cabs instead of finishing my current rig. and to top it all off, im going to have my cabinets made out of 3/4" plywood like most cabs, but 3/4" plexiglass!!! hellz yeah! its going to be the sweetest rig ever created! if i have some money left over, im going to get my fender bassman 300's outside shell replaced with a plexiglass one as well, and maybe even replace the chassis with a chrome one since all the hardware on my cabs will be chrome. can you say ******** sweet??!?!?!?!?! NOBODY STEAL MY IDEA OR I WILL EFFING KILL YOU WITH MY BARE HANDS! I was curious about this, so I did a little rummaging. "Perspex/Plexiglass will rattle like a bastid. It's very brittle, so you will get minute stress cracks around the screw holes which will propagate when stressed by the sound waves coming off the backs of the speakers, so the whole thing will just fall apart. It will crack when the cab is moved, as soon as someone knocks it. Who is going to see it? Certainly not your audience. There are definitely times to break with convention, but I would guess that this isn't one of them." and "If I saw a lot of pro cabs made with plexiglass, I would think it might be a useful concept, but all the guitar cabs are made of wood... of different types. We use wood for a reason.tone." And these are talking about guitar cabs, can you image the rattling these things will take from a 21" SUB? I think you're in for some heartbreak man. well the thing is, the second reason im using plexiglass is because of the zero tone in it. they use plexiglass chambers to test the frequency responce of woofers because they dont color the sound at all. im looking to get as flat as a frequency response out of this baby. and second, plexiglas is 100% void free unlike its plywood counterpart. a good 70% of plywood id say is void free, but there is still that 30% (dont quote me its just a guesstamate) chance of getting some voids in the wood, even if you buy grade a. so theres no PERFECT material to use for cabs except maybe the right kind of hardwood for you application but who wants to lug around a cab made out of hardwood? Plus, plexiglass has come a long way in the past years with newer methods for making the areas around the screw holes stronger. tama drums just came out with an all plexiglass drum set i cant remember what its called off the top of my head but after reading about that set several months ago when it came out, i read about the problem with cracks and stuff around the holes and how they perfected it and its not a very big problem anymore(you'd be surprised how many drumsets/snare drums are made out of plexiglass and even regular glass and they get nothing but hits from drumsticks!). another thing is, im not going to be building these cabs myself. i dont have any of the resources to do so such as a buffer to clean off all the scratches i would make from sawing and drilling holes. so, im going to have a company that deals specifcaly with plastics in my area (probablly seelye plastics) pretty much build my cabs for me to my own specs.
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Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2007 11:38 pm
metalsnowtablake angrymalazar metalsnowtablake im actually re-vamping my rig. i have a design for a 3-way full range bass cabinet and then a subwoofer cabinet with a 21" sub. im going to build the two cabs instead of finishing my current rig. and to top it all off, im going to have my cabinets made out of 3/4" plywood like most cabs, but 3/4" plexiglass!!! hellz yeah! its going to be the sweetest rig ever created! if i have some money left over, im going to get my fender bassman 300's outside shell replaced with a plexiglass one as well, and maybe even replace the chassis with a chrome one since all the hardware on my cabs will be chrome. can you say ******** sweet??!?!?!?!?! NOBODY STEAL MY IDEA OR I WILL EFFING KILL YOU WITH MY BARE HANDS! I was curious about this, so I did a little rummaging. "Perspex/Plexiglass will rattle like a bastid. It's very brittle, so you will get minute stress cracks around the screw holes which will propagate when stressed by the sound waves coming off the backs of the speakers, so the whole thing will just fall apart. It will crack when the cab is moved, as soon as someone knocks it. Who is going to see it? Certainly not your audience. There are definitely times to break with convention, but I would guess that this isn't one of them." and "If I saw a lot of pro cabs made with plexiglass, I would think it might be a useful concept, but all the guitar cabs are made of wood... of different types. We use wood for a reason.tone." And these are talking about guitar cabs, can you image the rattling these things will take from a 21" SUB? I think you're in for some heartbreak man. well the thing is, the second reason im using plexiglass is because of the zero tone in it. they use plexiglass chambers to test the frequency responce of woofers because they dont color the sound at all. im looking to get as flat as a frequency response out of this baby. and second, plexiglas is 100% void free unlike its plywood counterpart. a good 70% of plywood id say is void free, but there is still that 30% (dont quote me its just a guesstamate) chance of getting some voids in the wood, even if you buy grade a. so theres no PERFECT material to use for cabs except maybe the right kind of hardwood for you application but who wants to lug around a cab made out of hardwood? Plus, plexiglass has come a long way in the past years with newer methods for making the areas around the screw holes stronger. tama drums just came out with an all plexiglass drum set i cant remember what its called off the top of my head but after reading about that set several months ago when it came out, i read about the problem with cracks and stuff around the holes and how they perfected it and its not a very big problem anymore(you'd be surprised how many drumsets/snare drums are made out of plexiglass and even regular glass and they get nothing but hits from drumsticks!). another thing is, im not going to be building these cabs myself. i dont have any of the resources to do so such as a buffer to clean off all the scratches i would make from sawing and drilling holes. so, im going to have a company that deals specifcaly with plastics in my area (probablly seelye plastics) pretty much build my cabs for me to my own specs. My faith has been reaffirmed, someone pointed out (I'm an idiot for not realizing it) that people have been making plexiglass speaker boxes for cars for years (then again, the majority are made of wood...), but also these videos helped a bit. I'm still not certain it'll work, but if you've got the money and will, I guess there's a way. http://youtube.com/watch?v=wwhYCOfXc50http://youtube.com/watch?v=VMTLzznIlHwhttp://youtube.com/watch?v=MccvtgQB7ScI had know about the drums though, the Ludwig Vistalites are a form of plexiglass but I've always been a bit iffy on their tone, a tad boomy for my taste. Also, I'd try to get an actual cab builder to make the cabs and not let a plastic company do it, you mentioned Low Down Sound which is kind of a small time boutique, which makes me think you live nearby, why not try to get him to do it? The screw holes could be lined with ferules similar to string through guitars to try and relieve some of the strain. I'm sticking to the fragility of it though, if you're going this far, I'd invest in some road cases for them to eliminate any potential hazards on and offloading and such.
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Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 10:31 am
angrymalazar metalsnowtablake angrymalazar metalsnowtablake im actually re-vamping my rig. i have a design for a 3-way full range bass cabinet and then a subwoofer cabinet with a 21" sub. im going to build the two cabs instead of finishing my current rig. and to top it all off, im going to have my cabinets made out of 3/4" plywood like most cabs, but 3/4" plexiglass!!! hellz yeah! its going to be the sweetest rig ever created! if i have some money left over, im going to get my fender bassman 300's outside shell replaced with a plexiglass one as well, and maybe even replace the chassis with a chrome one since all the hardware on my cabs will be chrome. can you say ******** sweet??!?!?!?!?! NOBODY STEAL MY IDEA OR I WILL EFFING KILL YOU WITH MY BARE HANDS! I was curious about this, so I did a little rummaging. "Perspex/Plexiglass will rattle like a bastid. It's very brittle, so you will get minute stress cracks around the screw holes which will propagate when stressed by the sound waves coming off the backs of the speakers, so the whole thing will just fall apart. It will crack when the cab is moved, as soon as someone knocks it. Who is going to see it? Certainly not your audience. There are definitely times to break with convention, but I would guess that this isn't one of them." and "If I saw a lot of pro cabs made with plexiglass, I would think it might be a useful concept, but all the guitar cabs are made of wood... of different types. We use wood for a reason.tone." And these are talking about guitar cabs, can you image the rattling these things will take from a 21" SUB? I think you're in for some heartbreak man. well the thing is, the second reason im using plexiglass is because of the zero tone in it. they use plexiglass chambers to test the frequency responce of woofers because they dont color the sound at all. im looking to get as flat as a frequency response out of this baby. and second, plexiglas is 100% void free unlike its plywood counterpart. a good 70% of plywood id say is void free, but there is still that 30% (dont quote me its just a guesstamate) chance of getting some voids in the wood, even if you buy grade a. so theres no PERFECT material to use for cabs except maybe the right kind of hardwood for you application but who wants to lug around a cab made out of hardwood? Plus, plexiglass has come a long way in the past years with newer methods for making the areas around the screw holes stronger. tama drums just came out with an all plexiglass drum set i cant remember what its called off the top of my head but after reading about that set several months ago when it came out, i read about the problem with cracks and stuff around the holes and how they perfected it and its not a very big problem anymore(you'd be surprised how many drumsets/snare drums are made out of plexiglass and even regular glass and they get nothing but hits from drumsticks!). another thing is, im not going to be building these cabs myself. i dont have any of the resources to do so such as a buffer to clean off all the scratches i would make from sawing and drilling holes. so, im going to have a company that deals specifcaly with plastics in my area (probablly seelye plastics) pretty much build my cabs for me to my own specs. My faith has been reaffirmed, someone pointed out (I'm an idiot for not realizing it) that people have been making plexiglass speaker boxes for cars for years (then again, the majority are made of wood...), but also these videos helped a bit. I'm still not certain it'll work, but if you've got the money and will, I guess there's a way. http://youtube.com/watch?v=wwhYCOfXc50http://youtube.com/watch?v=VMTLzznIlHwhttp://youtube.com/watch?v=MccvtgQB7ScI had know about the drums though, the Ludwig Vistalites are a form of plexiglass but I've always been a bit iffy on their tone, a tad boomy for my taste. Also, I'd try to get an actual cab builder to make the cabs and not let a plastic company do it, you mentioned Low Down Sound which is kind of a small time boutique, which makes me think you live nearby, why not try to get him to do it? The screw holes could be lined with ferules similar to string through guitars to try and relieve some of the strain. I'm sticking to the fragility of it though, if you're going this far, I'd invest in some road cases for them to eliminate any potential hazards on and offloading and such. yeah i saw a picture on ampegs website of the cab they made for the beastie boys and that is actually what inspired me to do so. i dont however leave near by low down sound, i actually live very far away but i have a lot of time to plan out the full schematics of my cabs. i've got the general shape and outside dimensions down, also dimensions for venting and such but im going to spend some more time looking into making the joints stronger. the plastic company that i will most likely go to deals specifically with custom plastic jobs and they have been doing it for a longgg time. so im guessing that they would have a few ideas about how to make the actual box itself stronger. and yes, i will most definatly get a road case for each cab. actually i was thinking of making a soft case for each one and then building my own road case around the cabs with the soft cases so its like 2 levels of protection. i would be able to do that for really dirt cheap because i know of a diy music site that has directions for building your own everything. like cases and boxes and crap and even your own lighting system
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Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 5:32 pm
metalsnowtablake angrymalazar metalsnowtablake angrymalazar metalsnowtablake im actually re-vamping my rig. i have a design for a 3-way full range bass cabinet and then a subwoofer cabinet with a 21" sub. im going to build the two cabs instead of finishing my current rig. and to top it all off, im going to have my cabinets made out of 3/4" plywood like most cabs, but 3/4" plexiglass!!! hellz yeah! its going to be the sweetest rig ever created! if i have some money left over, im going to get my fender bassman 300's outside shell replaced with a plexiglass one as well, and maybe even replace the chassis with a chrome one since all the hardware on my cabs will be chrome. can you say ******** sweet??!?!?!?!?! NOBODY STEAL MY IDEA OR I WILL EFFING KILL YOU WITH MY BARE HANDS! I was curious about this, so I did a little rummaging. "Perspex/Plexiglass will rattle like a bastid. It's very brittle, so you will get minute stress cracks around the screw holes which will propagate when stressed by the sound waves coming off the backs of the speakers, so the whole thing will just fall apart. It will crack when the cab is moved, as soon as someone knocks it. Who is going to see it? Certainly not your audience. There are definitely times to break with convention, but I would guess that this isn't one of them." and "If I saw a lot of pro cabs made with plexiglass, I would think it might be a useful concept, but all the guitar cabs are made of wood... of different types. We use wood for a reason.tone." And these are talking about guitar cabs, can you image the rattling these things will take from a 21" SUB? I think you're in for some heartbreak man. well the thing is, the second reason im using plexiglass is because of the zero tone in it. they use plexiglass chambers to test the frequency responce of woofers because they dont color the sound at all. im looking to get as flat as a frequency response out of this baby. and second, plexiglas is 100% void free unlike its plywood counterpart. a good 70% of plywood id say is void free, but there is still that 30% (dont quote me its just a guesstamate) chance of getting some voids in the wood, even if you buy grade a. so theres no PERFECT material to use for cabs except maybe the right kind of hardwood for you application but who wants to lug around a cab made out of hardwood? Plus, plexiglass has come a long way in the past years with newer methods for making the areas around the screw holes stronger. tama drums just came out with an all plexiglass drum set i cant remember what its called off the top of my head but after reading about that set several months ago when it came out, i read about the problem with cracks and stuff around the holes and how they perfected it and its not a very big problem anymore(you'd be surprised how many drumsets/snare drums are made out of plexiglass and even regular glass and they get nothing but hits from drumsticks!). another thing is, im not going to be building these cabs myself. i dont have any of the resources to do so such as a buffer to clean off all the scratches i would make from sawing and drilling holes. so, im going to have a company that deals specifcaly with plastics in my area (probablly seelye plastics) pretty much build my cabs for me to my own specs. My faith has been reaffirmed, someone pointed out (I'm an idiot for not realizing it) that people have been making plexiglass speaker boxes for cars for years (then again, the majority are made of wood...), but also these videos helped a bit. I'm still not certain it'll work, but if you've got the money and will, I guess there's a way. http://youtube.com/watch?v=wwhYCOfXc50http://youtube.com/watch?v=VMTLzznIlHwhttp://youtube.com/watch?v=MccvtgQB7ScI had know about the drums though, the Ludwig Vistalites are a form of plexiglass but I've always been a bit iffy on their tone, a tad boomy for my taste. Also, I'd try to get an actual cab builder to make the cabs and not let a plastic company do it, you mentioned Low Down Sound which is kind of a small time boutique, which makes me think you live nearby, why not try to get him to do it? The screw holes could be lined with ferules similar to string through guitars to try and relieve some of the strain. I'm sticking to the fragility of it though, if you're going this far, I'd invest in some road cases for them to eliminate any potential hazards on and offloading and such. yeah i saw a picture on ampegs website of the cab they made for the beastie boys and that is actually what inspired me to do so. i dont however leave near by low down sound, i actually live very far away but i have a lot of time to plan out the full schematics of my cabs. i've got the general shape and outside dimensions down, also dimensions for venting and such but im going to spend some more time looking into making the joints stronger. the plastic company that i will most likely go to deals specifically with custom plastic jobs and they have been doing it for a longgg time. so im guessing that they would have a few ideas about how to make the actual box itself stronger. and yes, i will most definatly get a road case for each cab. actually i was thinking of making a soft case for each one and then building my own road case around the cabs with the soft cases so its like 2 levels of protection. i would be able to do that for really dirt cheap because i know of a diy music site that has directions for building your own everything. like cases and boxes and crap and even your own lighting system How are you planning on lining the cabs though? Without the some sort of lining or batting around the entire cavity, there'll be nothing to minimize the internal midrange reflections. I don't know how Ampeg pulled it off, but it's almost certainly necessary.
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Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 1:19 pm
angrymalazar metalsnowtablake angrymalazar metalsnowtablake angrymalazar metalsnowtablake im actually re-vamping my rig. i have a design for a 3-way full range bass cabinet and then a subwoofer cabinet with a 21" sub. im going to build the two cabs instead of finishing my current rig. and to top it all off, im going to have my cabinets made out of 3/4" plywood like most cabs, but 3/4" plexiglass!!! hellz yeah! its going to be the sweetest rig ever created! if i have some money left over, im going to get my fender bassman 300's outside shell replaced with a plexiglass one as well, and maybe even replace the chassis with a chrome one since all the hardware on my cabs will be chrome. can you say ******** sweet??!?!?!?!?! NOBODY STEAL MY IDEA OR I WILL EFFING KILL YOU WITH MY BARE HANDS! I was curious about this, so I did a little rummaging. "Perspex/Plexiglass will rattle like a bastid. It's very brittle, so you will get minute stress cracks around the screw holes which will propagate when stressed by the sound waves coming off the backs of the speakers, so the whole thing will just fall apart. It will crack when the cab is moved, as soon as someone knocks it. Who is going to see it? Certainly not your audience. There are definitely times to break with convention, but I would guess that this isn't one of them." and "If I saw a lot of pro cabs made with plexiglass, I would think it might be a useful concept, but all the guitar cabs are made of wood... of different types. We use wood for a reason.tone." And these are talking about guitar cabs, can you image the rattling these things will take from a 21" SUB? I think you're in for some heartbreak man. well the thing is, the second reason im using plexiglass is because of the zero tone in it. they use plexiglass chambers to test the frequency responce of woofers because they dont color the sound at all. im looking to get as flat as a frequency response out of this baby. and second, plexiglas is 100% void free unlike its plywood counterpart. a good 70% of plywood id say is void free, but there is still that 30% (dont quote me its just a guesstamate) chance of getting some voids in the wood, even if you buy grade a. so theres no PERFECT material to use for cabs except maybe the right kind of hardwood for you application but who wants to lug around a cab made out of hardwood? Plus, plexiglass has come a long way in the past years with newer methods for making the areas around the screw holes stronger. tama drums just came out with an all plexiglass drum set i cant remember what its called off the top of my head but after reading about that set several months ago when it came out, i read about the problem with cracks and stuff around the holes and how they perfected it and its not a very big problem anymore(you'd be surprised how many drumsets/snare drums are made out of plexiglass and even regular glass and they get nothing but hits from drumsticks!). another thing is, im not going to be building these cabs myself. i dont have any of the resources to do so such as a buffer to clean off all the scratches i would make from sawing and drilling holes. so, im going to have a company that deals specifcaly with plastics in my area (probablly seelye plastics) pretty much build my cabs for me to my own specs. My faith has been reaffirmed, someone pointed out (I'm an idiot for not realizing it) that people have been making plexiglass speaker boxes for cars for years (then again, the majority are made of wood...), but also these videos helped a bit. I'm still not certain it'll work, but if you've got the money and will, I guess there's a way. http://youtube.com/watch?v=wwhYCOfXc50http://youtube.com/watch?v=VMTLzznIlHwhttp://youtube.com/watch?v=MccvtgQB7ScI had know about the drums though, the Ludwig Vistalites are a form of plexiglass but I've always been a bit iffy on their tone, a tad boomy for my taste. Also, I'd try to get an actual cab builder to make the cabs and not let a plastic company do it, you mentioned Low Down Sound which is kind of a small time boutique, which makes me think you live nearby, why not try to get him to do it? The screw holes could be lined with ferules similar to string through guitars to try and relieve some of the strain. I'm sticking to the fragility of it though, if you're going this far, I'd invest in some road cases for them to eliminate any potential hazards on and offloading and such. yeah i saw a picture on ampegs website of the cab they made for the beastie boys and that is actually what inspired me to do so. i dont however leave near by low down sound, i actually live very far away but i have a lot of time to plan out the full schematics of my cabs. i've got the general shape and outside dimensions down, also dimensions for venting and such but im going to spend some more time looking into making the joints stronger. the plastic company that i will most likely go to deals specifically with custom plastic jobs and they have been doing it for a longgg time. so im guessing that they would have a few ideas about how to make the actual box itself stronger. and yes, i will most definatly get a road case for each cab. actually i was thinking of making a soft case for each one and then building my own road case around the cabs with the soft cases so its like 2 levels of protection. i would be able to do that for really dirt cheap because i know of a diy music site that has directions for building your own everything. like cases and boxes and crap and even your own lighting system How are you planning on lining the cabs though? Without the some sort of lining or batting around the entire cavity, there'll be nothing to minimize the internal midrange reflections. I don't know how Ampeg pulled it off, but it's almost certainly necessary. haha you never give up do you?! first, lining the inside of it isnt for midrange reflections. its to reduce standing waves and prevent vibrations coming from the speakers from going into the wood of the cabinet and causing the cabinet itself from making noise. plus, the midrange driver that i have picked out has a closed back so i dont need to seal the midrange or dampen it.
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Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 8:27 pm
metalsnowtablake angrymalazar metalsnowtablake angrymalazar metalsnowtablake well the thing is, the second reason im using plexiglass is because of the zero tone in it. they use plexiglass chambers to test the frequency responce of woofers because they dont color the sound at all. im looking to get as flat as a frequency response out of this baby. and second, plexiglas is 100% void free unlike its plywood counterpart. a good 70% of plywood id say is void free, but there is still that 30% (dont quote me its just a guesstamate) chance of getting some voids in the wood, even if you buy grade a. so theres no PERFECT material to use for cabs except maybe the right kind of hardwood for you application but who wants to lug around a cab made out of hardwood? Plus, plexiglass has come a long way in the past years with newer methods for making the areas around the screw holes stronger. tama drums just came out with an all plexiglass drum set i cant remember what its called off the top of my head but after reading about that set several months ago when it came out, i read about the problem with cracks and stuff around the holes and how they perfected it and its not a very big problem anymore(you'd be surprised how many drumsets/snare drums are made out of plexiglass and even regular glass and they get nothing but hits from drumsticks!). another thing is, im not going to be building these cabs myself. i dont have any of the resources to do so such as a buffer to clean off all the scratches i would make from sawing and drilling holes. so, im going to have a company that deals specifcaly with plastics in my area (probablly seelye plastics) pretty much build my cabs for me to my own specs. My faith has been reaffirmed, someone pointed out (I'm an idiot for not realizing it) that people have been making plexiglass speaker boxes for cars for years (then again, the majority are made of wood...), but also these videos helped a bit. I'm still not certain it'll work, but if you've got the money and will, I guess there's a way. http://youtube.com/watch?v=wwhYCOfXc50http://youtube.com/watch?v=VMTLzznIlHwhttp://youtube.com/watch?v=MccvtgQB7ScI had know about the drums though, the Ludwig Vistalites are a form of plexiglass but I've always been a bit iffy on their tone, a tad boomy for my taste. Also, I'd try to get an actual cab builder to make the cabs and not let a plastic company do it, you mentioned Low Down Sound which is kind of a small time boutique, which makes me think you live nearby, why not try to get him to do it? The screw holes could be lined with ferules similar to string through guitars to try and relieve some of the strain. I'm sticking to the fragility of it though, if you're going this far, I'd invest in some road cases for them to eliminate any potential hazards on and offloading and such. yeah i saw a picture on ampegs website of the cab they made for the beastie boys and that is actually what inspired me to do so. i dont however leave near by low down sound, i actually live very far away but i have a lot of time to plan out the full schematics of my cabs. i've got the general shape and outside dimensions down, also dimensions for venting and such but im going to spend some more time looking into making the joints stronger. the plastic company that i will most likely go to deals specifically with custom plastic jobs and they have been doing it for a longgg time. so im guessing that they would have a few ideas about how to make the actual box itself stronger. and yes, i will most definatly get a road case for each cab. actually i was thinking of making a soft case for each one and then building my own road case around the cabs with the soft cases so its like 2 levels of protection. i would be able to do that for really dirt cheap because i know of a diy music site that has directions for building your own everything. like cases and boxes and crap and even your own lighting system How are you planning on lining the cabs though? Without the some sort of lining or batting around the entire cavity, there'll be nothing to minimize the internal midrange reflections. I don't know how Ampeg pulled it off, but it's almost certainly necessary. haha you never give up do you?! first, lining the inside of it isnt for midrange reflections. its to reduce standing waves and prevent vibrations coming from the speakers from going into the wood of the cabinet and causing the cabinet itself from making noise. plus, the midrange driver that i have picked out has a closed back so i dont need to seal the midrange or dampen it. I'm not trying to start s**t, I'm genuinely curious. And the midrange infection thing actually came from a professional cab builder (I frequent another message board and a lot of luthiers and pro musicians hang out there so I asked them how this would work). I have no idea about the mechanics of cabs and amps, I play what I can afford and sounds good.
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Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2007 11:07 am
Alright, keep in mind, these are not from me, one from one of the moderators of the board, and the second is from cab builder Bill Fitzmaurice (http://www.billfitzmaurice.com/):
"Standing waves are just really bad midrange reflections, so in disagreeing he is actually agreeing.......
The stuff about the lining preventing the vibrations from going into the wood is rubbish. Mids and highs don't vibrate the wood anywhere near as much as lows. And ironically the lows go right through the lining like it's not even there. Indeed lining on a dedicated sub isn't required.
The sealed mid is well and good, and if he is satisfied the woofers on this cab produce no midrange whatsoever, and my that I mean there is a crossover in place that strips the mids and highs away from the woofers, then he migt get away with not using any lining. If the cab is like most bass cabs, with a crossover on the mid driver but not on the woofers, the midrange produced by the woofers will bounce around inside the cab and the absence of lining will be a problem.
Now lets talk about bracing. Regardless of what they're made of, panels flexing and vibrating excessively is an enormous waste of acoustic energy. How does he propose to brace the cab? Or is he going to make the plexiglass so thick that vibrations aren't a problem? How thick would the plexiglass have to be to achieve this, and how much will the final cab weigh?"
"The most charitable way to put it is that his understanding of the physics of loudspeaker design is sorely lacking. In the vernacular, he's got it totally bass-ackwards."
And this one is a response from Bill to the first post:
"Even subwoofers crossed over below 80 Hz have plenty of midrange content, in the form of harmonics that they create themselves with the motion of the driver cone. The further the cone moves the more harmonic content they create. Direct radiator subwoofer enclosures should be lined with damping to absorb those harmonics, so that they can't reflect off the cab interior back to the cone or out the port if there is one. The same applies to drivers crossed over above 80Hz, where the need is even more critical."
And in response to the Beastie Boys vids and pic:
"The thing is, the sound that is fed into his IEMs and the FOH is coming from a DI. The amp doesn't have to sound good. And it probably doesn't. Most likely, it's barely functional. It's a stage prop. No more or less a gimmick than Geddy Lee's dryers and chicken rotisseries."
I'm sorry bro, I really am, but these guys don't think it'll work, and you'll just be out a good bit of cash. __________________
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Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 1:36 am
At the moment, i have an old copy of an fender p-bass, but soon,  she'll be mine. cool
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Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2007 1:02 am
i have a Hartke 250 watt head
with a Hartke 4x10 cab and a Hartke 1x15 cab
thoughi usually only take the 4x10
cos its tight and punchy
and i cant be bothered lugging the 15 around with it
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Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2007 6:44 pm
metalsnowtablake im actually re-vamping my rig. i have a design for a 3-way full range bass cabinet and then a subwoofer cabinet with a 21" sub. im going to build the two cabs instead of finishing my current rig. and to top it all off, im going to have my cabinets made out of 3/4" plywood like most cabs, but 3/4" plexiglass!!! hellz yeah! its going to be the sweetest rig ever created! if i have some money left over, im going to get my fender bassman 300's outside shell replaced with a plexiglass one as well, and maybe even replace the chassis with a chrome one since all the hardware on my cabs will be chrome. can you say ******** sweet??!?!?!?!?! NOBODY STEAL MY IDEA OR I WILL EFFING KILL YOU WITH MY BARE HANDS! I really would not suggest going with plexi glass at all. 1 ratteling will be extrem. 2 its not really that strong for heavy pressure waves. 3 wood will diffentantly make it sound better. There is a big difference between plexi glass drums and wood drums as well, the plexi glass ones sound extremly flat, and horrible (if you listen to this band called The Berzerker that's kinda what the plexi drums sound like.) and the same thing can be said for speaker cabs (Main reason wood is used is that it is flexable, and easy to shape as well, the majority of cost for a cab is in the speakers). 4 a 21 in sub is more then a little overkill, and you will probably be having a very slow respons from that speaker, and unless you are using maybe 1-1.5 in plywood (or equivalent), with very well made interlocking corners, with steel reinforcments, and porting, it will fall apart. 6. insted of using any kind of padding why not go for a grill with very large openings, like a 1/8 in steel bar grill spaced 1.5 in apart (since the only sound that the audience hears is coming from the front of the speaker and not the back so the accustic properties of the inside of the cab don't matter so much, unless its ported which also doesn't nessesitate foam.) What I would really suggest is going for maybe a 15 or 18 speaker, and then 4x10 speakers or some thing like that, which would give you a much better range of things, and a nice smooth and quick response. If you really like low end I'd suggest maybe at most 2x15 or 2x12 with 1x18. You can get neo speakers from eminence that can handle up to 500 watts each.
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