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Asashikka
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Melodious Muse

PostPosted: Sun Nov 11, 2007 7:31 pm


This is just a general topic and is not specific~


So what other games do you like or are interested in right now?


I'm in particular am fond of the Final Fantasy series, Kingdom Hearts, Tales of, etc. At most, they have intriguing stories that piques my interest that overshadows their flaws (yes, I do not consider them "perfect" but they contain a lot of joy and memories shared so I value them quite a lot).

How about you all?
PostPosted: Sun Nov 11, 2007 9:27 pm


I've always liked the Grandia series.
Grandia 1 was an outstanding game.
Grandia 2 was a great game, but a little on the morbid side.
Grandia 3 is also great, but because they took away the party following the main character, it lost something.
I haven't played Grandia Extreme, so I have no opinion about it, but from what I hear, it's pretty lame.

Palsa-San
Crew


Asashikka
Captain

Melodious Muse

PostPosted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 8:49 pm


That's cool. <3

I have never played Grandia so I don't really have many ideas on it.
PostPosted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 11:26 pm


Asashikka
That's cool. <3

I have never played Grandia so I don't really have many ideas on it.


The first one was a masterpiece. ^_^
The sound track was back and forth though.
Most of the rock was tolerable, but the orchestration put you in the game.
The same guy that played the English voice of Klein from Atelier Iris: Eternal Mana also played the voice of Justin, the main character from the first Grandia.

Palsa-San
Crew


white_mokona
Crew

PostPosted: Sat Nov 17, 2007 12:00 am


kingdom hearts and star ocean till the end of time
.hack//G.U. is good too.
i wonder if Ar Tonelico II will come out in America though.
PostPosted: Sat Nov 17, 2007 12:10 pm


Hopefully. ^_^

One of the greatest games of all time is Chrono Trigger, unfortunately, none of the sequels could live up to the original.
I wish GUST would buy the rights to the series.

However, Seiken Densetsu 3 is by far the greatest game ever made.
It's unfortunate that Square-Enix never released it outside of Japan.

Palsa-San
Crew


Asashikka
Captain

Melodious Muse

PostPosted: Sun Nov 18, 2007 10:15 pm


white_mokona
kingdom hearts and star ocean till the end of time
.hack//G.U. is good too.
i wonder if Ar Tonelico II will come out in America though.

I like the .hack//G.U. series too! It's unfortunate that the "ending" turned out to be rather rushed and hashed into what is already a compelling story. =|

Star Ocean 3 (till the end of time) is cool too! I like the graphics engine (for its time, I find it impressive, especially with the unique locations and specialized architecture for its region).


I would absolutely LOVE to have Ar Tonelico II come to the English-speaking shores (from many, many previews and glimpses, the game is very impressive and improved upon from the first). <3
PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 2:07 pm


Ever played Wild Arms?
The first three were great, but the new ones aren't half of what the originals were.

Palsa-San
Crew


Dark General Rizen

PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 6:16 pm


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well for me it's Dot. hack//G.U., Disgaea 2, armored core Nexus and 4, Rachet and clank future tools of distructon, Folklore, and Gundam Crossfire.
bout it for now.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 10:26 pm


Palsa-San
Ever played Wild Arms?
The first three were great, but the new ones aren't half of what the originals were.

I played Wild Arms 4 only. ^^;
The game was a drag... I give them props for drawing every single NPC in the game. I would like to replay it, but then it's message is rather stark and one-sided somewhat (I like open interpretations).

Asashikka
Captain

Melodious Muse


Palsa-San
Crew

PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 10:26 pm


Asashikka
Palsa-San
Ever played Wild Arms?
The first three were great, but the new ones aren't half of what the originals were.

I played Wild Arms 4 only. ^^;
The game was a drag... I give them props for drawing every single NPC in the game. I would like to replay it, but then it's message is rather stark and one-sided somewhat (I like open interpretations).


I completely agree!!!
Wild Arms 4 is the worst game in the series.
They changed practically everything.
In the first three Wild Arms games, the main characters were tough, rugged wanderers of the wasteland.
But in Wild Arms 4, they're a bunch of wimpy kids.
The older games characters, had character, 4's didn't.
4 also lost most of the western feel that the first games had.
When I play 4, I feel like I'm playing a game based on the 70's and 80's.
The only improvement I saw in 4, was the fact that it had cut scenes and voices.
The battle system was cool, but because of fact that they screwed up the way characters level up, you can't enjoy a fight.
After putting several hours into leveling up, you can still lose to an early on opponent.
Why?
Because the battle system is setup in an advantage/disadvantage style.
Sometimes when you start a battle, the opponent will have the advantage, and will seriously damage the players before you have the opportunity to fight.
And when I said that they screwed up the way leveling up works.
I mean that when you go up 10 levels, the stats are as though you went 3.
PostPosted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 9:53 am


Palsa-San
Asashikka
Palsa-San
Ever played Wild Arms?
The first three were great, but the new ones aren't half of what the originals were.

I played Wild Arms 4 only. ^^;
The game was a drag... I give them props for drawing every single NPC in the game. I would like to replay it, but then it's message is rather stark and one-sided somewhat (I like open interpretations).


I completely agree!!!
Wild Arms 4 is the worst game in the series.
They changed practically everything.
In the first three Wild Arms games, the main characters were tough, rugged wanderers of the wasteland.
But in Wild Arms 4, they're a bunch of wimpy kids.
The older games characters, had character, 4's didn't.
4 also lost most of the western feel that the first games had.
When I play 4, I feel like I'm playing a game based on the 70's and 80's.
The only improvement I saw in 4, was the fact that it had cut scenes and voices.
The battle system was cool, but because of fact that they screwed up the way characters level up, you can't enjoy a fight.
After putting several hours into leveling up, you can still lose to an early on opponent.
Why?
Because the battle system is setup in an advantage/disadvantage style.
Sometimes when you start a battle, the opponent will have the advantage, and will seriously damage the players before you have the opportunity to fight.
And when I said that they screwed up the way leveling up works.
I mean that when you go up 10 levels, the stats are as though you went 3.

..which is why grinding doesn't help much at all. =|
It was my first entry into the Wild Arms series so it wasn't exactly the best. I did like a bit of the characterization... but the designs... were bland.. to me. They stood out on their own, but not that much. Even the game that gave me a terrible impression at first (Growlanser V: heritage of war) is definitely far more better than Wild Arms IV which is a bit surprising 'cause the graphics in Wild Arms surpasses the ones Wild Arms decided to test on (it was their first venture in 3-D).

Anyway, I actually kind of liked the battle system: it wasn't difficult to use and easy to get through (not to mention somewhat unique in it's own tactical way).

Wild Arms IV decided to try to use a new "flavor", I guess, but the ideas executed would have been a bit better. I mean, I know its one of those "passing of innocence" and it's certainly one of the many favorable plotlines, but this one is a bit poor since it went from strong beliefs to confusion. Also, it made "adults" very easy to read and appear... grand to the "children" which is not the case for most gamers.


Ok.. I'm doing with ranting. XD;


Since I compared Wild Arms IV to my first game to the growlanser series, it was slow at first, but then I grasped the game system and so far, I like it. It doesn't really contain puzzles (they're oh so easy) and the story is a bit cliche, but the execution is rather nice and fun even (despite drawbacks).

Asashikka
Captain

Melodious Muse


Palsa-San
Crew

PostPosted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 3:16 pm


Asashikka
Palsa-San
Asashikka
Palsa-San
Ever played Wild Arms?
The first three were great, but the new ones aren't half of what the originals were.

I played Wild Arms 4 only. ^^;
The game was a drag... I give them props for drawing every single NPC in the game. I would like to replay it, but then it's message is rather stark and one-sided somewhat (I like open interpretations).


I completely agree!!!
Wild Arms 4 is the worst game in the series.
They changed practically everything.
In the first three Wild Arms games, the main characters were tough, rugged wanderers of the wasteland.
But in Wild Arms 4, they're a bunch of wimpy kids.
The older games characters, had character, 4's didn't.
4 also lost most of the western feel that the first games had.
When I play 4, I feel like I'm playing a game based on the 70's and 80's.
The only improvement I saw in 4, was the fact that it had cut scenes and voices.
The battle system was cool, but because of fact that they screwed up the way characters level up, you can't enjoy a fight.
After putting several hours into leveling up, you can still lose to an early on opponent.
Why?
Because the battle system is setup in an advantage/disadvantage style.
Sometimes when you start a battle, the opponent will have the advantage, and will seriously damage the players before you have the opportunity to fight.
And when I said that they screwed up the way leveling up works.
I mean that when you go up 10 levels, the stats are as though you went 3.

..which is why grinding doesn't help much at all. =|
It was my first entry into the Wild Arms series so it wasn't exactly the best. I did like a bit of the characterization... but the designs... were bland.. to me. They stood out on their own, but not that much. Even the game that gave me a terrible impression at first (Growlanser V: heritage of war) is definitely far more better than Wild Arms IV which is a bit surprising 'cause the graphics in Wild Arms surpasses the ones Wild Arms decided to test on (it was their first venture in 3-D).

Anyway, I actually kind of liked the battle system: it wasn't difficult to use and easy to get through (not to mention somewhat unique in it's own tactical way).

Wild Arms IV decided to try to use a new "flavor", I guess, but the ideas executed would have been a bit better. I mean, I know its one of those "passing of innocence" and it's certainly one of the many favorable plotlines, but this one is a bit poor since it went from strong beliefs to confusion. Also, it made "adults" very easy to read and appear... grand to the "children" which is not the case for most gamers.


Ok.. I'm doing with ranting. XD;


Since I compared Wild Arms IV to my first game to the growlanser series, it was slow at first, but then I grasped the game system and so far, I like it. It doesn't really contain puzzles (they're oh so easy) and the story is a bit cliche, but the execution is rather nice and fun even (despite drawbacks).


Actually, Wild Arms 3 was the first to introduce 3D in the series.
Then they made Wild Arms: Alter Code F, a remake of the first game.
The older games also had a, North, South, East, West, system.
Allowing you to rotate the camera.
Wild Arms 4 dropped this.
Wild Arms 3 and Alter Code F had a shootout battle system.
Wild Arms 4 dropped this.
The earlier games had strong tough western characters, Wild Arms 4 didn't.
The earlier games followed a basic principle, Wild Arms 4 reversed it.
In Wild Arms 4, they try to say that good and evil are based on how well someone preforms their actions.
If that were the case, then a serial killer is a bad person for not killing enough people.
The types of things they tried to teach in Wild Arms 4, goes against commonsense and ethics.
And you would have never seen one of the characters from one of the original games make a comment like that, unless they were an evil enemy.
All in all, I like the new battle system, but if they hadn't messed up the leveling up system, it would have worked great.
But when you consider the fact that they have changed so much of the series, can you really call it Wild Arms? ^_^
PostPosted: Fri Nov 23, 2007 9:00 am


Palsa-San
Asashikka
Palsa-San
Asashikka
Palsa-San
Ever played Wild Arms?
The first three were great, but the new ones aren't half of what the originals were.

I played Wild Arms 4 only. ^^;
The game was a drag... I give them props for drawing every single NPC in the game. I would like to replay it, but then it's message is rather stark and one-sided somewhat (I like open interpretations).


I completely agree!!!
Wild Arms 4 is the worst game in the series.
They changed practically everything.
In the first three Wild Arms games, the main characters were tough, rugged wanderers of the wasteland.
But in Wild Arms 4, they're a bunch of wimpy kids.
The older games characters, had character, 4's didn't.
4 also lost most of the western feel that the first games had.
When I play 4, I feel like I'm playing a game based on the 70's and 80's.
The only improvement I saw in 4, was the fact that it had cut scenes and voices.
The battle system was cool, but because of fact that they screwed up the way characters level up, you can't enjoy a fight.
After putting several hours into leveling up, you can still lose to an early on opponent.
Why?
Because the battle system is setup in an advantage/disadvantage style.
Sometimes when you start a battle, the opponent will have the advantage, and will seriously damage the players before you have the opportunity to fight.
And when I said that they screwed up the way leveling up works.
I mean that when you go up 10 levels, the stats are as though you went 3.

..which is why grinding doesn't help much at all. =|
It was my first entry into the Wild Arms series so it wasn't exactly the best. I did like a bit of the characterization... but the designs... were bland.. to me. They stood out on their own, but not that much. Even the game that gave me a terrible impression at first (Growlanser V: heritage of war) is definitely far more better than Wild Arms IV which is a bit surprising 'cause the graphics in Wild Arms surpasses the ones Wild Arms decided to test on (it was their first venture in 3-D).

Anyway, I actually kind of liked the battle system: it wasn't difficult to use and easy to get through (not to mention somewhat unique in it's own tactical way).

Wild Arms IV decided to try to use a new "flavor", I guess, but the ideas executed would have been a bit better. I mean, I know its one of those "passing of innocence" and it's certainly one of the many favorable plotlines, but this one is a bit poor since it went from strong beliefs to confusion. Also, it made "adults" very easy to read and appear... grand to the "children" which is not the case for most gamers.


Ok.. I'm doing with ranting. XD;


Since I compared Wild Arms IV to my first game to the growlanser series, it was slow at first, but then I grasped the game system and so far, I like it. It doesn't really contain puzzles (they're oh so easy) and the story is a bit cliche, but the execution is rather nice and fun even (despite drawbacks).


Actually, Wild Arms 3 was the first to introduce 3D in the series.
Then they made Wild Arms: Alter Code F, a remake of the first game.
The older games also had a, North, South, East, West, system.
Allowing you to rotate the camera.
Wild Arms 4 dropped this.
Wild Arms 3 and Alter Code F had a shootout battle system.
Wild Arms 4 dropped this.
The earlier games had strong tough western characters, Wild Arms 4 didn't.
The earlier games followed a basic principle, Wild Arms 4 reversed it.
In Wild Arms 4, they try to say that good and evil are based on how well someone preforms their actions.
If that were the case, then a serial killer is a bad person for not killing enough people.
The types of things they tried to teach in Wild Arms 4, goes against commonsense and ethics.
And you would have never seen one of the characters from one of the original games make a comment like that, unless they were an evil enemy.
All in all, I like the new battle system, but if they hadn't messed up the leveling up system, it would have worked great.
But when you consider the fact that they have changed so much of the series, can you really call it Wild Arms? ^_^

Oh, I forgot about how Wild Arms 3 introduced 3-D to the series. XD
I'm sorry about that!

Regardless of the changes, it's still considered as Wild Arms. It's like saying Final Fantasy is not one because of the drastic changes in VII, VIII (especially) or even XII (only it adhered to the Tactics and Tactics Advance division of FF instead). Same for Tales of series... but they're more closer still so it's not a really good comparison.

Thank you for your scope on Wild Arms 3! I should go find it and buy it since it's really inexpensive now (under $10 used).

I've been wondering.. what are your thoughts on Wild Arms V (f you have any)? I don't have it yet and well, won't plan to get it since I'm saving up money for other matters (and saving in general).

Asashikka
Captain

Melodious Muse


Palsa-San
Crew

PostPosted: Fri Nov 23, 2007 7:42 pm


Asashikka
Palsa-San
Asashikka
Palsa-San
Asashikka
Palsa-San
Ever played Wild Arms?
The first three were great, but the new ones aren't half of what the originals were.

I played Wild Arms 4 only. ^^;
The game was a drag... I give them props for drawing every single NPC in the game. I would like to replay it, but then it's message is rather stark and one-sided somewhat (I like open interpretations).


I completely agree!!!
Wild Arms 4 is the worst game in the series.
They changed practically everything.
In the first three Wild Arms games, the main characters were tough, rugged wanderers of the wasteland.
But in Wild Arms 4, they're a bunch of wimpy kids.
The older games characters, had character, 4's didn't.
4 also lost most of the western feel that the first games had.
When I play 4, I feel like I'm playing a game based on the 70's and 80's.
The only improvement I saw in 4, was the fact that it had cut scenes and voices.
The battle system was cool, but because of fact that they screwed up the way characters level up, you can't enjoy a fight.
After putting several hours into leveling up, you can still lose to an early on opponent.
Why?
Because the battle system is setup in an advantage/disadvantage style.
Sometimes when you start a battle, the opponent will have the advantage, and will seriously damage the players before you have the opportunity to fight.
And when I said that they screwed up the way leveling up works.
I mean that when you go up 10 levels, the stats are as though you went 3.

..which is why grinding doesn't help much at all. =|
It was my first entry into the Wild Arms series so it wasn't exactly the best. I did like a bit of the characterization... but the designs... were bland.. to me. They stood out on their own, but not that much. Even the game that gave me a terrible impression at first (Growlanser V: heritage of war) is definitely far more better than Wild Arms IV which is a bit surprising 'cause the graphics in Wild Arms surpasses the ones Wild Arms decided to test on (it was their first venture in 3-D).

Anyway, I actually kind of liked the battle system: it wasn't difficult to use and easy to get through (not to mention somewhat unique in it's own tactical way).

Wild Arms IV decided to try to use a new "flavor", I guess, but the ideas executed would have been a bit better. I mean, I know its one of those "passing of innocence" and it's certainly one of the many favorable plotlines, but this one is a bit poor since it went from strong beliefs to confusion. Also, it made "adults" very easy to read and appear... grand to the "children" which is not the case for most gamers.


Ok.. I'm doing with ranting. XD;


Since I compared Wild Arms IV to my first game to the growlanser series, it was slow at first, but then I grasped the game system and so far, I like it. It doesn't really contain puzzles (they're oh so easy) and the story is a bit cliche, but the execution is rather nice and fun even (despite drawbacks).


Actually, Wild Arms 3 was the first to introduce 3D in the series.
Then they made Wild Arms: Alter Code F, a remake of the first game.
The older games also had a, North, South, East, West, system.
Allowing you to rotate the camera.
Wild Arms 4 dropped this.
Wild Arms 3 and Alter Code F had a shootout battle system.
Wild Arms 4 dropped this.
The earlier games had strong tough western characters, Wild Arms 4 didn't.
The earlier games followed a basic principle, Wild Arms 4 reversed it.
In Wild Arms 4, they try to say that good and evil are based on how well someone preforms their actions.
If that were the case, then a serial killer is a bad person for not killing enough people.
The types of things they tried to teach in Wild Arms 4, goes against commonsense and ethics.
And you would have never seen one of the characters from one of the original games make a comment like that, unless they were an evil enemy.
All in all, I like the new battle system, but if they hadn't messed up the leveling up system, it would have worked great.
But when you consider the fact that they have changed so much of the series, can you really call it Wild Arms? ^_^

Oh, I forgot about how Wild Arms 3 introduced 3-D to the series. XD
I'm sorry about that!

Regardless of the changes, it's still considered as Wild Arms. It's like saying Final Fantasy is not one because of the drastic changes in VII, VIII (especially) or even XII (only it adhered to the Tactics and Tactics Advance division of FF instead). Same for Tales of series... but they're more closer still so it's not a really good comparison.

Thank you for your scope on Wild Arms 3! I should go find it and buy it since it's really inexpensive now (under $10 used).

I've been wondering.. what are your thoughts on Wild Arms V (f you have any)? I don't have it yet and well, won't plan to get it since I'm saving up money for other matters (and saving in general).


First, regarding WA3:
It has got to be the most customizable game I have ever played.
Not only can you change the main characters names, but most of the NPC characters as well.
You know how a lot of RPG's will have a picture for the main characters?
Everyone in WA3 has one, including the most insignificant of NPC's
If you play WA3, you'll see exactly what I mean by changes. ^_^
The battle system is not the greatest, but it's still a lot of fun, and follows the western theme much better then that of the new one.

Regarding WA5:
I haven't played WA5 yet.
But I've only seen bad reviews, and from what I've read, it's pretty terrible.

Regarding WA2:
Haven't played it, but I've seen enough of it to understand that it's awesome. ^_^
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