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Y'Know how alot of lifers say pregnancy isn't dangerous?

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The_Thread _Reaper

PostPosted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 9:30 am


Well..I found this on yahoo news yesterday (and probably a lot of other people did too) but this just made me sad..particularly about women in underdeveloped countries.

Yahoo News
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The United States has a sharply higher rate of women dying during or just after pregnancy than European countries, even some relatively poor countries such as Macedonia and Bosnia, according to the first estimates in five years on maternal deaths worldwide.

The report released by various United Nations agencies and the World Bank on Friday shows that Ireland has the lowest rate of deaths, while several African countries have the worst.

The United States has a far higher death rate than the European average, the report shows, with one in 4,800 U.S. women dying from complications of pregnancy or childbirth, the same as Belarus and just slightly better than Serbia's rate of one in 4,500.

Just one out of 47,600 women in Ireland die during or just after childbirth, the report found. Bosnia had the second-lowest rate, with 1 in 29,000 women dying during pregnancy and childbirth.

"Among the ten top-ranked European and other industrialized countries, where women are guaranteed good-quality health and family planning services that minimize their lifetime risk, fewer than one in 16,400 will die from complications of pregnancy and childbirth," the United Nations, which issued the report along with the World Bank, said in a statement.

"At the other end of the scale are ten countries where high fertility and shattered health care systems raise women's lifetime risk so that more than one in every 15 women will die of pregnancy-related causes," it said.

The report, published in the Lancet medical journal, places the United States 41st among 171 countries.

The four lowest-ranked countries in the report are Chad, with 1 in 11 women dying in pregnancy or childbirth, Afghanistan and Sierra Leone with one in eight, and Niger losing one in seven mothers.

"Americans tend to be complacent about pregnancy and childbirth. Most believe it is now more or less routine and no longer the deadly risk it was for their grandmothers. This is true for most U.S. women, but by no means for all," the U.N.-led group said in a statement.

The group includes U.N. agencies such as the World Health Organization and UNICEF, the World Bank and Family Care International.

According to the U.S. National center for Health Statistics, about 6 million U.S. women get pregnant every year. Four million children are born, about 1 million pregnancies end in miscarriages and another 1 million in induced abortion.

The major direct causes of U.S. pregnancy-related deaths are blood clots, hemorrhage, complications of medical conditions, and eclampsia and pre-eclampsia, which are marked by dangerously high blood pressure.

The death rate among U.S. black women was nearly four times the rate found among non-Hispanic white women -- 34.7 deaths per 100,000 live births for blacks versus 9.3 per 100,000 live births for whites, the report said.


The numbers of those in underdeveloped countries make me wish that there was an organization like Women on Waves would get a fleet of ships and help women who want to keep their pregnancies get adequate health care and check ups where the health systems are lacking.

Hell, I'd donate to an organization like that to keep em running. If it'd help women stay healthy and give them a clean place to give birth it'd be well worth it.
PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 4:28 am


The pro-lifers in the ADT seem to only think about pregnant women in developed countries instead of the world as a whole. Because of our (developed countries') very advanced technology, dangerous pregnancies are like, no problem for us! [/sarcasm]

But seriously, when I do go in the ADT, they're usually talking about women in countries like USA, Canada, or England.

CAPTAIN Plixy[Stix]


The Fox Priestess

PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 8:47 am


You also have to take into account all the people who get deathly ill from being pregnant. I think with some people their body treats the child like an invader and they can possibly die from it. Also, EW! Possibility of sepsis!
PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 10:38 am


The sad thing is that OUR maternal death rate (in America, that is) really isn't looking so hot.

I mean..come ON, we're losing one in 4,800 and ireland is only losing one in every 47,600? We're that far behind?

What's ireland got that we don't have? I need to research this..>.>

Yeah, I see that usually people refer to Canada, the US, or Britain when they think of developed safe countries..

NOPE!

If you wanna have the least chance of having something go wrong, go to Ireland, or Bosnia! Who knew?

The_Thread _Reaper


RedRoseSpiral

PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 10:51 pm


The_Thread _Reaper
The sad thing is that OUR maternal death rate (in America, that is) really isn't looking so hot.

I mean..come ON, we're losing one in 4,800 and ireland is only losing one in every 47,600? We're that far behind?

What's ireland got that we don't have? I need to research this..>.>

Yeah, I see that usually people refer to Canada, the US, or Britain when they think of developed safe countries..

NOPE!

If you wanna have the least chance of having something go wrong, go to Ireland, or Bosnia! Who knew?


On the ADT we came up with the possibility of most of Europe, Ireland included, having universal health care as being what we don't have. Ireland's rates are what has convinced me to, if possible, to go over there for both my pregnancy and childbirth.
PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 10:55 pm


The_Thread _Reaper
The sad thing is that OUR maternal death rate (in America, that is) really isn't looking so hot.

I mean..come ON, we're losing one in 4,800 and ireland is only losing one in every 47,600? We're that far behind?

What's ireland got that we don't have? I need to research this..>.>

well, i'm pretty sure that Ireland is largely Catholic, and Catholics are bred to breed... perhaps they evolved in such a way as to make pregnancy less dangerous? i'm starting to think that's what happened to my family's female members. insane fertility + child bearing hips + Catholics in rural Iowa... i think i'm on to something.

Peppermint Schnapps


caffinated_tulip

PostPosted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 7:50 am


Holy s**t... that's really high. I never knew it was so bad. Of course I assumed that most of those deaths were in places where health care is either stretched too thin (inner cities?) Or almost impossible to get to (super rural podunk areas like mine).

Story: We had a woman just a few weeks ago go into labor out in the boonies, she died because she couldnt get to the hospital in time, her husband was working at the time. she went into labor a bit early. I dont know if the baby was saved or not.
PostPosted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 1:03 pm


@tulip: Ooh boy..that's horrible! That's a huge reason I'm so manically afraid of ever getting pregnant. Setting aside that being around children makes me incredibly nervous and that I don't want to go through that much pain and physical stress for something that'll make me unhappy..what also scares me is the thought of being left all alone and going into labor without any help.

I mean..if things get bad really fast I doubt I'd be able to manage driving to the hospital on my own. I have a hard time focusing on things as it is with how bad my menstrual pain can get, I can't even begin to fathom how difficult it would be to drive myself to the hospital with labor pains.

I"d imagine it'd be the scariest thing to be stuck at home alone like that, especially if something goes wrong or if labor starts so unexpectedly..sure you could call 911, but you can never be sure of response times, especially if you're out in the middle of nowhere. >.<

The_Thread _Reaper


Peppermint Schnapps

PostPosted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 3:35 pm


i saw somewhere that the amount of live births in the US is about 4 million, and with 1 our of every 4,800 women dying while giving birth, that means that approximately 833.33... women die each year while giving birth. since some of the deaths probably occur during pregnancy, which wouldn't be counted as a live birth, that number is kind of a long shot, but it's the best i can do right now.

just thought i'd put that into perspective.
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