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 Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2007 11:09 am
With all the stuff in the news the last couple of days, it would be remiss of me not to post about this. Today, October 13th, is the 700th anniversary of the day the Templars were arrested. When Jacques de Molay was burned at the stake, some of his last words were to pronounce a 700 year malediction against France. I have always found it intriguing that he blamed France rather than the church. It makes sense to me now that we know the Pope pronounced the Templars innocent of heresy. French friends of my family have told us often about how their country has been a battle ground for centuries, and occasionally they have said they hope this will change when the 700 years were over. Isn't it interesting that the lost parchment clearing the Templars of heresy was re-discovered as the 700 years came to a close? What timing!
I feel so historical. *grins* My son was born on Templar Day, and my husband and I were married on the Trafalgar anniversary.
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Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2007 3:22 am
You supplied some interesting information. I did not know all the facts about the curse. thank you
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Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2007 7:15 am
You're welcome! Thanks for reading!
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Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2007 8:51 am
I don't really know an awful lot about them to be honest. I've not studied them in detail.
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Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 10:32 am
They were 12 men, who were the last known knights of the templar. All who seved Mary Magdalen (or so it goes.)
They were a group of people...who thought that what they did was right, they did all and everything she said. They were body guards to the crown and so some say they are the ones who made the knights of this time who they are now.
There are many stories behind the templars, the Da Vinci Code stories, as well as the storys from the Broken sword games. Well the first one anyway.
I have to do some more looking up on them though, you can't be sure on what story is true...so..I suppose you go from history.
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Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 3:38 pm
Sometimes with topics like this it is hard to find the truth--and since history is written by survivors, you have to be very careful of your primary sources. A primary source is something written or recorded by an actual participant, someone alive at the time. A secondary source is anything after the fact--including someone from the same era as an incident, if they were not directly involved. But even with the primary sources it is still important to read as many different angles as possible--because what one person remembers as the absolute truth may be totally different from what someone else remembers.
And then we have archivists who get their hands on contrary primary sources--and destroy them... *grrr*
The truth is probably somewhere in the middle. And the moment something becomes popular... there goes another level of meaning coming into it. smile
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Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2007 7:22 am
I have heard a lot of rumors about the Knights Templar. One angle is that they were involved with Freemasons, like in the movie National Treasure, but I'm sure that is all bogus. I also saw on a documentary that they were a group of knights founded in Jerusalem during the crusades (during the period where the city was actually held in Eurpean-Christian hands) to protect religious pilgrims. Then there are other angles such as the survive today as a secret organization. It would be good if you could find good reliable sources of information.
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Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 1:26 pm
Gee, and here I thought the whole thing in the Da Vinci code was made up. To think that some part or parts of it are based on truth... neutral
If only we could see the actual past through some kind of machine, huh? That would be neat! 3nodding I know there's the history channel but it's not the same...
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Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 8:09 pm
In the best of fictions there is an element of truth... smile
Sorry I've been missing of late, folks--back soon I promise!
Hugs,
Jasta
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Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 2:02 pm
Whoever has an Xbox 360 should play Assassin's Creed. It's a fantastic game. It's about a man who has the memories of one of his ancestors from the time of the Knights of Templar and the Third Crusade. The ancestor is an assassin by the name of Altair (with an accent - umlaut, two dots) over the I. It's pronounced "Al-tai-eer".
His task was to assassinate particular dangerous individuals, and was rumoured to have killed every Templar in the Holy Land at that time. The game is by UBISoft, and was created by people from varying faiths as well as being based on historical events.
If there's anything relevant to this game about this particular subject, then please mention it here. I'm finding the game rather intriguing and wish to know more.
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Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 3:50 pm
Wow, that sounds like a neat game! I'll have to see if I can find and play it.
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Posted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 1:19 pm
Nice topic! All I know about the knights templar is what I read from the DaVinci Code, and the movie. Its interesting to learn more about what some people thought was just something to add suspense to a book or movie. I watched a documentary a few nights ago and saw that there is in fact some truth to the group. When I remember more, I'll post here.
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Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 5:43 pm
Looking forward to your findings! *cuddles history* I love this stuff.... smile
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Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 12:38 pm
DM_Melkhar I don't really know an awful lot about them to be honest. I've not studied them in detail. I'm with Mel here, the only thins I know are the ones mentioned in the movie of the Davinci's code. They mention the whole Templars deal there, do they not?
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Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 1:58 pm
Yes, they do--and the author did his homework. But keep in mind that it IS a work of fiction. Of course, it is also entirely possible no one knows everything about the Templars and what they were up to.
There's a neat website where you can read a LOT more on them:
http://www.templarhistory.com/
And if you'd like to read some VERY well done fiction about them, may I recommend this:
http://www.amazon.com/Tales-Knights-Templar-Katherine-Kurtz/dp/0446601381
Katherine is a superb writer herself, and here she did the same thing with the Templars that she did with her Deryni universe: opened it up to other writers, and got the stories compiled for publication. There's a follow-up collection called On Crusade: More Tales of the Knights Templar and that's also pretty cool.
As long as you sift the fiction for the fact, fiction can be a fun way to learn! smile
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