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There is a reason why the title of my post says, "Waugh!".

I was arguing with my pro-life mother and sister the other day about abortion rights, and the whole,"Abortion is bad except for rape and incest!!!1one!" thing came up. I shot down the incest part with the, "What if they want to keep it?" argument, and the information about how the child of an incestuous couple only has about a 2% chance more than a regular couple to have any sort of genetic deformity. After I was done, they looked at me like I was this horrible monster and came to one conclustion.

Since I defended incest, then I am lusting after my brother!!!

They just drive me ******** insane!!!! They are even trying to get me into counseling to try to, "fix" me. I already went to a psychiatrist because of Post Traumatic Stress Syndrome, and that was because that whenever my mom got angry, she would verbally and physically abuse me.


Anyways, what you can discuss is:

Gotten any negative comments for defending incest?
Family members that you hate/hate you?



Sorry if I'm ranting too much... You may move/lock this if you think it doesn't belong.

Lol Talon, my aunt said a similar thing to me. I told her that I wasnt planning on getting pregnant anytime soon, thank you very much.

As far as my family, Sex itself was never a very taboo topic, and we've had a plethora of unwed teenage(or early 20s) mothers... I'm actually the last hold out. Obviously my family as a whole is prolife (for other reasons too, my cousin said that she'd make a better role model because she "took responsability for her action and didnt just take the easy and immoral way out and have an abortion") All that bull-shits aside, i told my mom that she didnt have to worry about being a grandmother anytime soon because I would have an abortion if i got pregnant before I graduated college. She didnt say anything in response. I'm assuming that silence gives consent (I wouldnt need it any way, but nice to know) and that she's pro choice. My father, also prochoice. I know this because we were watching a debate on TV and he got angry and said:

"What the f*ck are these guys arguing about? If that woman dosent want to have a kid, then she shouldnt have the damn kid! Too many kids out there anyway" (Thanks dad, he also belives that gay marriage is none of the governments business and should be allowed) So my parents are fairly open minded, I told them that I'm invovled in a planned parenthood activist group on campus and neither of them cared.So, i guess that my immediate family is fine, but my extended family...well, we have alot of fundies.

I guess I'm lucky. My family's pro-choice, except my sister who's ten and probably doesn't know what abortion is. I just hope her best (Southern Baptist) friend doesn't decide to teach her about it. xp

I have tried on various accounts to try and talk to my parents about abortion and me being pro-choice whilst most of them being pro-life. It always leads to screams of "HOW CAN YOU SUPPORT THE MURDER OF WITTLE BABIES??" Try as I might to explain it then goes into the other point "Well you only support it because it is beneficial for you as a guy"

I haven't spoken with any one in my family about abortion except for my mother, and she was the one to initiate the conversation.

Basically, she was voicing her concerns about my fiance and I moving in together, and how we should be careful (which I more than agree with, and we are very careful), etc. She then mentioned "I just worry that if you get pregnant, you'll have trouble with money to take care of the baby." I calmly told her that if I were to get pregnant, I wouldn't keep it; I'd simply abort and that would be that. She then started with the "ABORTION IS MURDER" argument, which I quickly shot down, then she went on to "It's a baby from the moment of conception", which I also refuted.

She then told me I was "a disgusting person", and we haven't talked about it sense, even though we still get along reasonably well.

My family is intolerable to live with, discussion is out of the question.
They're going to get beaten with a lead pipe one day.

I have 9 months and a half before I can escape to freedom move out of state for college.

My parents are both pro-choice, but I try to avoid political discussions with them because if we end up disagreeing on something, they start talking down to me and acting like their opinion is the right one. Which is especially annoying considering that they aren't the most informed people in the world. Plus, my mom has Two-Tone Perception Disease.

One of the problems is that they consider themselves liberals, when they're really left-leaning moderates. I'm a lot more liberal than they are.

*sigh* Sad stuff... This is why I don't understand people who value their family highly. I value people I choose to be around a helluva lot more than people I was just randomly thrown in with.

But the incest thing is just ridiculous. I hate when I try to defend something and people accuse me of it. (BTW: My boyfriend and I look incestuous. rofl People used to ask "Are you guys brother and sister?" I'd say no. They'd say, "Oh, well you guys should go out or something!" Seriously, though, we look like opposite-gender clones.)

Which reminds me of a thought I had. Some a*****e on TV was talking about gay marriage, and all he could provide was the slippery slope argument. I thought "First of all, slippery slope fallacy. Second.... Who cares about adult incest and polygamy? They're consenting. The only argument against it is 'Eew!'"