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Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 3:58 pm
I was wondering if someone would know of an old side-arm that there would be lots of in a warehouse somewhere that would cost little to attain a large number of. I'm writing a story and I need a group of about 500 to be armed with reliable but cheap and easy to find weapons, including a side-arm. I think I've decided on the AK-47 for the standard assault rifle, the AKS-74U to fit the sub-machine gun catagory when in close quarters, and I thought about the Makarov pistol for the side-arm, but I'm not sure.
What would be advised?
Also, once an answer has been found for this question I think it should be deleted. Our forum is getting a little crowded, I think. Once a simple question has been asked in a thread and answered maybe it ought to be removed to keep the place clean. Just an idea.
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Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 4:04 pm
Not crowded at all, I'd say.
Hmm. For easily acquired guns I'd say... looking at the national inventories of poor countries:
FN 35 and the 1911. The 35 is EXTREMELY popular and apparently easy to find cheap.
For submachineguns the Uzi is quite more popular than any AK variant. So is the Sterling.
The FN FAL is also popular for assault rifles, but it depends on where you are. The Middle East has an assload of AK-47's because the Soviets were handing them out like condoms to teenagers. The FAL is common in Africa.
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Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 4:05 pm
ArmasTermin I was wondering if someone would know of an old side-arm that there would be lots of in a warehouse somewhere that would cost little to attain a large number of. I'm writing a story and I need a group of about 500 to be armed with reliable but cheap and easy to find weapons, including a side-arm. I think I've decided on the AK-47 for the standard assault rifle, the AKS-74U to fit the sub-machine gun catagory when in close quarters, and I thought about the Makarov pistol for the side-arm, but I'm not sure. What would be advised? Also, once an answer has been found for this question I think it should be deleted. Our forum is getting a little crowded, I think. Once a simple question has been asked in a thread and answered maybe it ought to be removed to keep the place clean. Just an idea. I would say Makarov, besides, it adds to that cheap russian style.
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Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 4:13 pm
I think there's more Tokarevs around than Makarovs, as far as old surplus goes.
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Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 4:58 pm
Forgive me that I can't remember what it is, but the pistol that Walther produced in WWII is fairly common and cheap.
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Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 5:02 pm
ChaoticConsonance Forgive me that I can't remember what it is, but the pistol that Walther produced in WWII is fairly common and cheap. They made many. PP, PPK, P-38?
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Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 6:51 pm
Lord Plate ChaoticConsonance Forgive me that I can't remember what it is, but the pistol that Walther produced in WWII is fairly common and cheap. They made many. PP, PPK, P-38? Well the actual P-38s go for quite a bit. Not as much as a Luger but, up there. Now the P-1s: Look quite similar to a P38 except... They (P-1s) have an Aluminum Frame. Different parts The trigger is a bit different and... They're called P-1s. Also the PPks and PPs are fairly common. Makarovs are pretty cool for cheap(er) purchasing. But for the bang for the buck the CZ-52s are all round sexiness. I want one real bad...
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Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 6:55 pm
Yeah, I know. neutral
The P-1 is the most common on the market for poor countries.
PPK's and PP's both run about 500 American, a P-38 original you are lucky to find under one grand. Of course our weapons markets are completely different than in other parts of the world. People who never make 10 dollars in their life run around with StG-44's that I would gladly torture, maim, and kill for. scream
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Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 6:57 pm
Lord Plate Yeah, I know. neutral The P-1 is the most common on the market for poor countries. PPK's and PP's both run about 500 American, a P-38 original you are lucky to find under one grand. Of course our weapons markets are completely different than in other parts of the world. People who never make 10 dollars in their life run around with StG-44's that I would gladly torture, maim, and kill for. scream So true... crying
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Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 7:01 pm
gefreiter Lord Plate Yeah, I know. neutral The P-1 is the most common on the market for poor countries. PPK's and PP's both run about 500 American, a P-38 original you are lucky to find under one grand. Of course our weapons markets are completely different than in other parts of the world. People who never make 10 dollars in their life run around with StG-44's that I would gladly torture, maim, and kill for. scream So true... crying Why do all the other couhntries get the luck with guns? I bet there's more Kalashnikov rifles in Russian warehouses than there are men, women, and children in America! And I still don't have one.
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Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 7:06 pm
ArmasTermin gefreiter Lord Plate Yeah, I know. neutral The P-1 is the most common on the market for poor countries. PPK's and PP's both run about 500 American, a P-38 original you are lucky to find under one grand. Of course our weapons markets are completely different than in other parts of the world. People who never make 10 dollars in their life run around with StG-44's that I would gladly torture, maim, and kill for. scream So true... crying Why do all the other couhntries get the luck with guns? I bet there's more Kalashnikov rifles in Russian warehouses than there are men, women, and children in America! And I still don't have one. Canada makes reproduction STG-44s and Mp40s and they can't be imported. crying
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Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 7:12 pm
+1 on the CZ52. They're cheap as all and very plentiful.
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Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 7:15 pm
SierraBT +1 on the CZ52. They're cheap as all and very plentiful. What caliber is it? (I'd end up looking up all its information later, but tell me anyway.)
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Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 7:17 pm
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Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 7:18 pm
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